How is Raonic the next Sampras?

Cesc Fabregas · Apr 30, 2011

I don't get the comparisons with Sampras. Sampras was great athlete which Raonic isn't, Sampras had great hands at the net, Raonic doesn't, the only thing is the big serve. Sampras is an all time great Raonic will be lucky to be in top 10 in his career.

Breaker · Apr 30, 2011

Another legendary Cesc thread in the making.

PSNELKE · Apr 30, 2011

Serve - Sampras - I don´t give a dang if he´ll break the serve record of Dr. Ivo, he won´t get any close to the phenomal serve of Pete. Milos benefits a lot of his height (11cm taller than Pete), and Pete still had the better placement and the best second serve. IMO he isn´t even better than Goran in that department.

Forehand - Pete (by a little) - Great running Forehand and always good length however Milos has also a nice Forehand

Backhand - Pete - you can´t win 14 GS with a bad BH, but I think his BH was just a bit over the avarage. Milos´ Bh is under the avarage.

Volleys - Pete lol no contest here. but Milos has also a decent one

Pete is just superior in every department, but there´s still a lot time for Milos to improve his game. But one thing is sure that Milos won´t come close to Pete´s achievemts. I doubt Milos will win a major title but he could be a decent Top 15 player.

rovex · Apr 30, 2011

Breaker said:
Another legendary Cesc thread in the making.

He has some substance in what he's saying, you wouldn't know of course if you've been living in the Raonic bubble these past few months.

Breaker · Apr 30, 2011

rovex said:
He has some substance in what he's saying, you wouldn't know of course if you've been living in the Raonic bubble these past few months.

I have not been living in any Raonic bubble, saying he will be lucky to reach top 10 in his career is laughable and about on par with the Soderling and Del Potro 'predictions'.

Djokolate · Apr 30, 2011

Only thing is the big serve? You forgot the forehand. I do agree with you though, people think he's Jesus Christ.

Love Raonic classy GOAT love Milos great class act Raonic sexy love Milos

YodaKnowsBest · Apr 30, 2011

Cesc Fabregas said:
I don't get the comparisons with Sampras. Sampras was great athlete which Raonic isn't, Sampras had great hands at the net, Raonic doesn't, the only thing is the big serve. Sampras is an all time great Raonic will be lucky to be in top 10 in his career.

For once we agree with each other...

Cesc Fabregas · Apr 30, 2011

Breaker said:
I have not been living in any Raonic bubble, saying he will be lucky to reach top 10 in his career is laughable and about on par with the Soderling and Del Potro 'predictions'.

You act like top 10 is a walk in the park to get to, Tsonga has more game than Milos and he's never been a consistant top 10er.

Overheadsmash · Apr 30, 2011

Time and determination will tell. He's still young. And I don't mean Donald Young.

mctennis · Apr 30, 2011

So who's making these comparisons between he and Sampras? If it is the TV talking heads they have to have something to talk about. Anyone that is new in the field and wins some matches against some seasoned players they do this to. Puts lots of pressure on the new kids and slowly the other players pick up on what can beat the new kid. I've seen it over and over again. Prime example- Chang. Plus other ones off and on. Most of them didn't make it in the bigs very long. Injuries taking most of them down. The tour slowly weeds out the great and not so great ones.

Mick · Apr 30, 2011

Cesc Fabregas said:
I don't get the comparisons with Sampras. Sampras was great athlete which Raonic isn't, Sampras had great hands at the net, Raonic doesn't, the only thing is the big serve. Sampras is an all time great Raonic will be lucky to be in top 10 in his career.

i don't even know if he could be the next andy roddick even let alone the next pete sampras

Bryan Swartz · Apr 30, 2011

Sampras is an all time great Raonic will be lucky to be in top 10 in his career.

This would seem to be a stretch, inasmuch as Raonic is 10th in the world so far this season. One would expect him to improve at least somewhat as his career progresses, and he's got a great chance to finish this year in the Top 10.

Omega_7000 · Apr 30, 2011

JustBob · Apr 30, 2011

Breaker said:
Another legendary Cesc thread in the making.

Give him a break, he's obviously hurting:

"I want to be alone: Arsenal midfielder Cesc Fabregas splits from childhood sweetheart"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...plits-childhood-sweetheart.html#ixzz1L3EWiUDr

eidolonshinobi · Apr 30, 2011

Another Game For Milos

Devilito · Apr 30, 2011

How is Richard Gasquet the next Arthur Ashe?

pound cat · Apr 30, 2011

Bryan Swartz said:
This would seem to be a stretch, inasmuch as Raonic is 10th in the world so far this season. One would expect him to improve at least somewhat as his career progresses, and he's got a great chance to finish this year in the Top 10.

He should be about 24 on Monday..no points to defend. Next year will be interesting...and stressful for him.

BigForehand · Apr 30, 2011

rao***** doens't even have a 1 handed backhandl like sampras.

rofl any time a kid comes in with a big serve people yell "SAMPRAS". Calm down losers, there were a lot of players with big serves. Why not call him Ivanisevic?

rodrigoamaral · Apr 30, 2011

let him first win a grand slam, then we will talk

li0scc0 · Apr 30, 2011

Breaker said:
I have not been living in any Raonic bubble, saying he will be lucky to reach top 10 in his career is laughable and about on par with the Soderling and Del Potro 'predictions'.

He will make top 10, but do you really see him being a perennial top 10 player? Not sure, but I doubt it.

obsessedtennisfandisorder · Apr 30, 2011

good thread cesc

yeah..I don't know what comeover TTW double in spring.

big serve means nothing if you can't finish point quickenouf after.

don'tsee what big deal is...i see a cilic or ancic career eventuating.

movement is good forbig man..but after a few shots he willeventually die
slowdeath.

I just think TTW are desperate for a new star ..thus milos hype.

BTw..noneed forthis delpois making comeback.

BreakPoint · Apr 30, 2011

Cesc Fabregas said:
I don't get the comparisons with Sampras. Sampras was great athlete which Raonic isn't, Sampras had great hands at the net, Raonic doesn't, the only thing is the big serve. Sampras is an all time great Raonic will be lucky to be in top 10 in his career.

This thread from Cesc Faregas virtually guarantees that Raonic will make the Top 10.

We all remember Cesc's thread about how Soderling will not be inside the Top 20 for more than a week.

Tennisworld · May 1, 2011

There is something between a potential grand slam winner and a all time great as Sampras. Why always discussions between the extremes? It seems in this forum you are either a legend or a mug.
I think Raonic has a bright future. As he is a very young player, he can still improve. He has shown he can also do some damage on clay, Simon surely is not that bad on the surface. In the near future he will be very dangerous on hardcourt and grass.

5555 · May 1, 2011

Raonic is the most overrated player in tennis history.

PCXL-Fan · May 1, 2011

Most of the Sampras comparisons were tongue in cheek and the winning grandslams proclaimations were sarcastic.

Do we have a case of someone with a broken sarcasm detector?

pjonesy · May 1, 2011

Raonic is still very young. His game is still developing. He is tall and has weapons that will give him an advantage on the tour. Raonic will probably improve over the next few years. That's pretty much all that needs to be said.

sdont · May 1, 2011

BreakPoint said:
This thread from Cesc Faregas virtually guarantees that Raonic will make the Top 10.

We all remember Cesc's thread about how Soderling will not be inside the Top 20 for more than a week.

Did he not also predict that Delpo would never win a GS tournament? :lol:

Sid_Vicious · May 1, 2011

PCXL-Fan said:
Most of the Sampras comparisons were tongue in cheek and the winning grandslams proclaimations were sarcastic.

Do we have a case of someone with a broken sarcasm detector?

Not quite. In February, there were many Raonic-****s talking about how Raonic's serve is the greatest in history and how his second serve rivals Pete's.

Also, many people were talking about how Raonic's agressive game would annihilate baseliners like Djokovic and Nadal. Thankfully, Raonic's losses to Harrison and Roddick sent them back to earth.

Deleted member 21996 · May 1, 2011

Q : How is Raonic the next sampras?

A : because we live in Cesc Fabregas head. we are all imaginary.

Spin Doctor · May 1, 2011

Who is saying that Raonic is the next Sampras? I haven't heard anyone say that. People talk about Sampras when he plays because he has said that he admires Pete's game. He also has a big serve and comes to net. But that's about it.

I like him but I think the most he will be is top 20. I get the sense that he will be very streaky, hampered by injuries, and this lack of consistency will keep him out of the top 10. Maybe if he pieces it together for 2 weeks he will go deep into a major on a fast surface...maybe.

Ripster · May 1, 2011

I don't get the comparison's either. Maybe if Raonic switched to a one-handed backhand and developed a serve and volley game. As it stands, their games don't resemble each other.

AcesFull · May 2, 2011

He's already at number 25 in his first season on the tour. He has next to zero points to defend for the rest of the year, so to say that he will be no better than top 20 (16-20th) is a joke! He has hardly any clay experience and has shown that he can play with some strong clay courters and perform well. To defeat Simon is an accomplishment and he's only going to get better. He's definitely not Pete, but I think he will be better on clay than Pete was.

tennis_pro · May 2, 2011

Cesc Fabregas said:
I don't get the comparisons with Sampras. Sampras was great athlete which Raonic isn't, Sampras had great hands at the net, Raonic doesn't, the only thing is the big serve. Sampras is an all time great Raonic will be lucky to be in top 10 in his career.

And who exactly is comparing Raonic with Sampras?

I say, Nishikori will never be as good as prime Federer. Should I make a separate thread now or what?

Marius_Hancu · May 2, 2011

For the time being, I like what I see:

25 Raonic, Milos (CAN) 1,357 2 24
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Singles.aspx

Spin Doctor · May 2, 2011

AcesFull said:
He's already at number 25 in his first season on the tour. He has next to zero points to defend for the rest of the year, so to say that he will be no better than top 20 (16-20th) is a joke! He has hardly any clay experience and has shown that he can play with some strong clay courters and perform well. To defeat Simon is an accomplishment and he's only going to get better. He's definitely not Pete, but I think he will be better on clay than Pete was.

To me a "Top 20" player is someone ranked between 11-20, which is certainly respectable. Not sure where you are coming up with 16-20.

RoddickAce · May 2, 2011

While I agree that some people in TW are hyping up Raonic a bit too much, I must point out that, if Raonic were as good as Sampras, then he wouldn't be called the next Sampras, he'd be considered on par with Sampras.

The whole "next _____" title is to acknowledge potential and talent in a player. If we were to "predict" greatness in already successful players, like Nadal, then it would be called hindsight. It's like saying now, "I think Nadal is going to be the next great player in tennis!".

Deleted member 3771 · May 3, 2011

Raonic is more like Del Potro.

PSNELKE · May 3, 2011

TheNatural said:
Raonic is more like Del Potro.

Not even close. Raonic is a serve bot, while Delpo´s serve is mediocre.
The rest of Raonic´s arsenal isn´t anything close to Delpo´s.
Delpo is superior in every single department except of the serve.

Rickenbacker4003 · May 4, 2011

PSNELKE said:
Not even close. Raonic is a serve bot, while Delpo´s serve is mediocre.
The rest of Raonic´s arsenal isn´t anything close to Delpo´s.
Delpo is superior in every single department except of the serve.

If Del Potro had Raonic's serve he'd be better than Joker's current form this year.

PSNELKE · May 4, 2011

Rickenbacker4003 said:
If Del Potro had Raonic's serve he'd be better than Joker's current form this year.

Lol he would massacre anyone on the ATP Tour.

li0scc0 · May 4, 2011

Rickenbacker4003 said:
If Del Potro had Raonic's serve he'd be better than Joker's current form this year.

And if Raonic had delPotro's forehand.....

Andres · May 4, 2011

li0scc0 said:
And if Raonic had delPotro's forehand.....

He would need Del Potro's backhand, return of serve and mental strength.

Del Potro with Raonic's serve beats Milos with Del Potro's forehand ten out of ten times.

li0scc0 · May 4, 2011

Andres said:
He would need Del Potro's backhand, return of serve and mental strength.

Del Potro with Raonic's serve beats Milos with Del Potro's forehand ten out of ten times.

I don't think delPotro NOW would beat Raonic 10 out of 10 times.

But I agree with your above, with the exception that delPotro's backhand is just average.

Deleted member 3771 · May 4, 2011

PSNELKE said:
Not even close. Raonic is a serve bot, while Delpo´s serve is mediocre.
The rest of Raonic´s arsenal isn´t anything close to Delpo´s.
Delpo is superior in every single department except of the serve.

They both have somewhat mechanical looking strokes, nothing like the fluid Sampras game.

Devilito · May 4, 2011

TheNatural said:
They both have somewhat mechanical looking strokes, nothing like the fluid Sampras game.

Raonic might have better volleys. But you're comparing an un and comer to a grand slam champion. Not really fair. Give Raonic a couple years

PCXL-Fan · May 4, 2011

Even with a conservative estimate of a trajectory of slight improvement in all areas of his game Raonic would still be incredibly lucky to win a single slam.

He should achieve a higher ranking then Verdasco at least momentarily though.

Deleted member 3771 · May 4, 2011

Devilito said:
Raonic might have better volleys. But you're comparing an un and comer to a grand slam champion. Not really fair. Give Raonic a couple years

Regardless of how good Raonic ever becomes, his strokes will continue to look somewhat mechanical and he's not a naturally athletic and fluid mover, thus he looks nothing like Sampras on court.

Andres · May 5, 2011

PSNELKE said:
Not even close. Raonic is a serve bot, while Delpo´s serve is mediocre.
The rest of Raonic´s arsenal isn´t anything close to Delpo´s.
Delpo is superior in every single department except of the serve.

Delpo serve mediocre?

What is this? 2007?

Fugazi · May 5, 2011

Cesc Fabregas said:
I don't get the comparisons with Sampras. Sampras was great athlete which Raonic isn't, Sampras had great hands at the net, Raonic doesn't, the only thing is the big serve. Sampras is an all time great Raonic will be lucky to be in top 10 in his career.

He's no Sampras, but he has weapons and he's mentally very strong and mature for his age. I say he'll consistently be top 20 or better for a few years.

yellowoctopus · May 5, 2011

I'm sure Mr. Sampras is upset over this comparison.

How is Raonic the next Sampras?

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