Can one point change the match result ?

Nostradamus · Jan 29, 2012

That backhand passing shot miss by Nadal pretty much changed the end result of the match. Had Nadal made that pass, he would have most likely held and go ahead by 5-2 score. and match would have been his. If Novak goes on to win the grand slam this year, then we will look back on that point as the history making point.

Lsmkenpo · Jan 29, 2012

Yes, one point could have also given Djokovic the first set, and the match would have been over in 3 sets. It would have than been one of the worst major finals played in the open era.

One point can not only change a match but it can completely change public perception, and tennis history.

30fifteen · Jan 29, 2012

A point can change any match result. The line between winning and losing is very thin between two evenly matched opponents.

Nostradamus · Jan 29, 2012

30fifteen said:
A point can change any match result. The line between winning and losing is very thin between two evenly matched opponents.

i think that one point could change history as well. If Novak wins the Grand slam this year, history would have been made.

gregor.b · Jan 29, 2012

Ask Novak about THAT return of serve against Fed at the US Open last year. See what he thinks.

ledwix · Jan 29, 2012

Yes, every single point of course has an effect on the score and the match in general. It's not like that single point decided it. It was a combination of everything. If Djokovic took advantage of his 5-3 lead while serving in the tiebreak, he would have wrapped it up in 4. He also had the 0-40 on Nadal's serve. etc.

purge · Jan 29, 2012

weve seen it happen countless of times

Lsmkenpo · Jan 29, 2012

Not only can one point change a match, but many points can become insignificant as a result of one.

A player can win more points and games than his opponent but still lose the match.

Sentinel · Jan 29, 2012

Wasn't there one point that changed Murray's match with someone last year. Pretty big match.

And one dropshot that changed Roger's match (RG final first set i think). Lots of such examples. Nice alternate universe of one-point-that-changed.

Roger also admitted one point against Haas changed his match at 2009 RG.

wimble10 · Jan 29, 2012

I think it's much worse when the point is decided by an incorrect line call. Happened a few times in this tournament. eg. Berdych/Nadal, Isner/Nalbandian match.

Hood_Man · Feb 2, 2012

Davydenko may well have lost the 2010 Australian Open with that wild forehand in the second set, when he had a break point for a double break against Federer in the quarter final.

fundrazer · Feb 2, 2012

Lsmkenpo said:
Yes, one point could have also given Djokovic the first set, and the match would have been over in 3 sets. It would have than been one of the worst major finals played in the open era.

One point can not only change a match but it can completely change public perception, and tennis history.

No, it cannot change the match in the way you are thinking. I made this same point to MichaelNadal. You change one point, the whole rest of the match following that point follows a different path.

But yes, one point can turn around a match.

Xizel · Feb 2, 2012

Federer's first set against Karlovic this Aussie. Luckiest net cord (I think) ever. Having a set point on Karlovic's serve and winning it with sheer luck.

OddJack · Feb 2, 2012

Yes sure can.

People need to remind themselves that at 5-3 Djoker went for a FH winner that was missed for same number of millimeters that Nadal missed that BH. While the passing shot would have given Nadal a 40-15 lead, the FH would give Djoker 3 match points.

ATP100 · Feb 2, 2012

Easy Answer: NO

In peoples minds....yes

Tammo · Feb 2, 2012

Roddick could have won Wimbledon 2009 if he had made that volley in the 2nd set TB.

romeo8880 · Feb 2, 2012

Nostradamus said:
If Novak goes on to win the grand slam this year, then we will look back on that point as the history making point.

There is absolutely no chance of that ever happening.

wintintu · Feb 3, 2012

The answer is yes - it can:

Murray missed chance at 7-5, 2-1, 15-30 on Rafa's serve at Wimbledon 2011

Rafa missed backhand at 2-2 4-2 30-15 against Novak at Australian Open 2012

Djokovic return at 2-2 4-5 15-40 on Federer's serve at US Open 2011

They are the ones that jump out at me! Murray's against Rafa in particular - once he hit that shot I knew in my head he would lose

Vamos Rafa · Feb 3, 2012

Sentinel said:
Wasn't there one point that changed Murray's match with someone last year. Pretty big match.

And one dropshot that changed Roger's match (RG final first set i think). Lots of such examples. Nice alternate universe of one-point-that-changed.

Roger also admitted one point against Haas changed his match at 2009 RG.

That would be the Wimby semi against Rafa. Looked like he would win before missing a simple forehand.

winstonplum · Feb 3, 2012

Can anybody find some video of that shot? I can't find the highlight anywhere?

Don Felder · Feb 3, 2012

gregor.b said:
Ask Novak about THAT return of serve against Fed at the US Open last year. See what he thinks.

Stole my post. No kidding. That return was a total, resigned tank "smash as hard as I can" shot... and it changed the match!

Ledigs · Feb 3, 2012

With Djokovic and Nadal, yes. With other pairings probably not so much.

The Gentleman's Sport · Feb 9, 2012

romeo8880 said:
Nostradamus said:

If Novak goes on to win the grand slam this year, then we will look back on that point as the history making point.

Click to expand...

There is absolutely no chance of that ever happening.

You've been wrong about Djokovic in the past...

romeo8880 re: Djoko Murray semi said:
I will be hoping for Murray if he wins this but the truth is Nadal is going to crush either of these guys.

romeo8880 pre AO Final said:
Indeed. The big 2 are Federer and Nadal. Djokovic's fluke 2011 will soon be forgotten after he wins nothing this year.

He also wasn't going to win the USO according to you. (We're now at 5 slams btw)

romeo8880 re: Fed Nadal semi said:
lol, both would have beat Djokovic in straight sets. Nadal is going to destroy whoever is in the final.

Nadal can't do anything, and you think Fed's ever gonna beat Djokovic again?

Castiel · Feb 9, 2012

Yes, definetly, I know for sure that the point in the third set in Federer vs Haas match at the FO changed the whole match, and its that point, that actually gave Federer the opprotunity to win the French Open.
There you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEg_0a9av-E&feature=related
point starts right after federer misses the forehand

The Gentleman's Sport · Feb 9, 2012

The answer to the question is yes. Look no further than The Shot™ from the Djokovic/Fed USO 2011 semi as Gregor mentioned.

But if we're really talking about Nadal's error, the answer is no. It wouldn't have made a difference. It wasn't a crucial moment or a special shot and there were plenty of chances Djokovic missed earlier in the match which would've wrapped it up nicely in his favour.

Hood_Man · Feb 9, 2012

Castiel said:
Yes, definetly, I know for sure that the point in the third set in Federer vs Haas match at the FO changed the whole match, and its that point, that actually gave Federer the opprotunity to win the French Open.
There you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEg_0a9av-E&feature=related
point starts right after federer misses the forehand

Probably the scariest match I've ever seen.

Castiel · Feb 9, 2012

My heart rate in this match was higher than Nadal's top spin rate.

sdont · Feb 9, 2012

Castiel said:
Yes, definetly, I know for sure that the point in the third set in Federer vs Haas match at the FO changed the whole match, and its that point, that actually gave Federer the opprotunity to win the French Open.
There you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEg_0a9av-E&feature=related
point starts right after federer misses the forehand

If there is only one point I remember from my life as a tennis fan, it would be this one. Just after he hit this IO FH, French commentators were already saying "if Federer goes on to win the FO this year, this FH will be remembered." How right they were!

jackson vile · Feb 9, 2012

Worked for Novak USO 2011, that one point turned around the whole match. Otherwise Nadal would have defeated Federer in the final.

Deleted member 77403 · Feb 10, 2012

jackson vile said:
Worked for Novak USO 2011, that one point turned around the whole match. Otherwise Nadal would have defeated Federer in the final.

Yeah, you're right. That one point ensured that Nadal was not going to defend USO. The winner of the event had been decided by that one shot.

westside · Feb 10, 2012

As mentioned earlier, Roddick missing THAT volley denied him of his first Wimbledon (imo).

Federer netting a tweener on MP against Safin in the 2005 AO SF. After the shot, you could see in his face that he knew it was an unnecessary shot.

Roddick v Hewitt 2001 USO QF. This call; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sr3A10qZkE

Beryl · Feb 10, 2012

The literal answer is no. You have to win by 2 points to take any game, including tiebreakers, so two points to take any match. Two points can change the result, one is insufficient. The easy example is when it's 6-6 in a 3rd set tiebreaker: whoever wins the next two points wins the match.

However, mentally, one point can definitely shift the match. Most obvious examples is the missed easy putaway forehand sitter by Murray Wimbledon semi 2011 at 7-5, 2-1, 15-30 on Nadal's serve.

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