mariecon
Hall of Fame
Fine. Whatever. We'll talk after the Rome and RG draws where Federer gets put in Nadal's half in both (unless of course it's impossible ie: Fed is #3 and Nadal is #4).
Was Indian Wells Rigged for Nadal??
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Fine. Whatever. We'll talk after the Rome and RG draws where Federer gets put in Nadal's half in both (unless of course it's impossible ie: Fed is #3 and Nadal is #4).
Clarky21
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Onehandedbackhand
Professional
Those draws are what DRAW people to the courts.
I hate Ferrer playing Oeiras, but I understand. No one, outside of niche people, gives a rip about a Carreno-Busta-Seppi final. They will not draw flies.
Daveed isn't the big four in terms of drawing power, but he'll draw fans there.
Same with RG. Yes, a Fognini-Tsonga final would be DIFFERENT, and kind of fun for some, but the ratings would give NBC execs heartburn
Now if either decide they want to work towards being stars(and both are beautiful for the female eye), then ratings warrant that.
Till then, they want the top four in the semis and hope the results allow for that.
sbengte
G.O.A.T.
Aww Clarky, you were such a cute kid, I must say :lol: despite the umm....
How old were you when this pic was taken ?
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Omega_7000
Legend
It's true in 2014 too...Ellison is too biased towards Ralph...Not surprising the Indian Wells courts are perfectly suited to his style of play.
Murrayfan31
Hall of Fame
The weather is perfect for Nadal. Ellison made the weather sunny and dry as well. lol Miami is basically the same courts but in entirely different weather conditions. Thus why Nadal never won it. His shots don't kick up as much when the weather is extremely humid. Plus he already sweats too much. Humidity is his worst enemy.
LazyNinja19
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v-verb
Hall of Fame
Nadal is one of he all time greats - that is plain to see. However I would totally believe that Ellison would "manage" the courts to favor his man.
Are people so naive to think this doesn't ever happen?
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Exactly. People are a little naive IMO if they believe this never happens, but in Ellison's case he seems to be a fan of all the top players, not just Nadal mostly for the sake of his tournament, although it wouldn't surprise me if he was more of a Nadal fan than any of the other top players.
I remember in 2012, he was fist pumping in the front row when Fed was coming back on Raonic and avoiding the upset.
And I also know from Federer's biography that at the TMC 2003 in Houston Jim McIngvale, the TD at the time was a massive Agassi fan. I mean, like #1 fanboy material, and at the time Federer said he wasn't happy with some aspect of the tournament (can't remember what it was right now) and Jim took offence. Said something like "I hope you get beaten badly and knocked out of the tournament. Of course, Federer proceeded to go on and win the tournament, trouncing Agassi in the final.
Forehand Of Doom
Banned
Yeah, and whoever manages the WTF loves Feddy Boy and hates Nadal. Whatever you say, dude.
Forehand Of Doom
Banned
Forehand Of Doom
Banned
Yeah, and USO is rigged for Nadal (as was last year's Cincy). And since he's won Montreal twice, i suppose that's rigged too. U mad, bro? :lol:
PrinceMoron
Legend
Does Ellison have the same girlfriend as last year? No, not Nadal, the girl who was watching all the matches.
Omega_7000
Legend
It's not about how many times he has won the tournament you momo...Did I ever say RG was rigged for him?
Does the owner of the WTF act like a Federer fangirl? No.
Ellison otoh looks like he's dancing around with pompoms wearing a skirt to support his boy...somethings fishy.
Omega_7000
Legend
LMAO! :lol:
Forehand Of Doom
Banned
Ellison has billions of dollars and he owns the tournament. He can do whatever he pleases, even if it displeases goofballs such as thou.
Excuse Ellison from being a Nadal fanboy (vs being a Federer fanboy, like 90% of the ATP tour). This heresy much tear you up.
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
:lol:
there is hope, Omega 7000. Ralph is playing bad.
Omega_7000
Legend
Blah Blah Blah............Name one tournament owner that acts like Ellison during a Federer match?
Omega_7000
Legend
Ralph's game is ugly...I'm glad you finally see the light.
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes it is ugly.
Hope this made you smile
Please stop toruring yourself with his matches. Don't watch it.
Omega_7000
Legend
Rigged for Ralph with the full support of his cheer leading, golf buddy Ellison...Didn't work this time Ellison!
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vernonbc
Legend
Rigged for Ralph with the full support of his cheer leading, golf buddy Ellison...Didn't work this time Ellison!
Funny you don't complain when there are pictures of Ellison cheering for Federer. :roll:
Ellison said in a NY Times interview a couple of years ago that he loves watching Federer - that Fed is the best tennis player he's seen and that Rafa is the best tennis athlete ever. He loves/loved Johnny Mac too. Must have been difficult for Ellison to choose whom to rig the tournament and the courts for when he loves both Fed and Rafa. :-?
Forehand Of Doom
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Ellison has enough money to act any way he wants. Name another tournament owner with as much money (and as hot a girlfriend) as Ellison.
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As long as he is not breaking any law.
Matt H.
Professional
espn did a story on the US Open draw a couple years ago.
The incredibly low avg ranking that the top players play in the first round over a certain stretch of time was such a mathmatical improbability, that their simulated computers couldn't even duplicate.
the usta poo-poo'd the very idea, but I certainly buy it. Corporate business is corporate busines....and a top tennis tournament is corporate business.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Any pics of Larry after yesterday's match against Dog ?
Forehand Of Doom
Banned
Yes, of course.
The point is that if he were a Federer fanboy all these people wouldn't be complaining.
Forehand Of Doom
Banned
You are just happy Federer escaped 24:10.
heftylefty
Hall of Fame
So, can we put an end to Rig Draws and Cakewalks?
Omega_7000
Legend
First, Ellison isn't the richest person on this planet...Second, anyone with a lot of money is not allowed to behave as they please.
Third, people who think like you are the @#^#! of this planet.
Forehand Of Doom
Banned
First, Ellison is entitled to support his favorite player in the tournament he pays with his own money.
Second, rooting for any player is not forbidden.
Third, why don't you cram it with walnuts. You should be celebrating Nadal lost.
vernonbc
Legend
Yes, of course.
The point is that if he were a Federer fanboy all these people wouldn't be complaining.
What's nuts about their complaints is that Ellison is out there for every Fed match applauding like crazy. They're just jealous that Ellison really really likes Rafa as a person and looks forward to having him as a house guest during the tournament.
urundai
Professional
Yes, of course.
The point is that if he were a Federer fanboy all these people wouldn't be complaining.
You got that right. Some other folks will do the complaining in that case.
Ellison is one of those that seems to attract (?) strong reactions in TT. Maybe, just maybe, due to him having couple extra $$ than the rest of us:twisted:
furryballs
Banned
yes but only 3 times
Forehand Of Doom
Banned
Exactly, because it's not like he doesn't like Federer as well.
It's so bad of Ellison for having Nadal as a friend. He should be ashamed, no?
Forehand Of Doom
Banned
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Ellison also trolled us all by buying mysql some years back.
We could if draws were by rank. After all Rank is earned, seeding is decided by the tournament director. Why not do a 128 seeding by rank? Even the playing field.
ttbrowne
Hall of Fame
I believe this can happen very easily. As Nadal was walking off of the court I could picture Larry saying goodbye to a lot of ticket sales.
Omega_7000
Legend
sbengte
G.O.A.T.
Too bad Nads couldn't escape 23-16
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