The Jolly Rig II.

LeeD

Bionic Poster
LOTS of guys, besides me, use the LD Rig...:):)
SolincoTourBite16 at 47 lbs for a 16x19 racket with a 98 headsize.
Lasts well over 80 hours of play, seems no one has broken it, and tension maintainance is superb.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
LOTS of guys, besides me, use the LD Rig...:):)
SolincoTourBite16 at 47 lbs for a 16x19 racket with a 98 headsize.
Lasts well over 80 hours of play, seems no one has broken it, and tension maintainance is superb.

Solinco emailed me directly and told me they recommended not to use it past one week, which is on average 10-12 hours of play.

80 hours of play with the same full poly bed is insanity. If you can't break full poly beds in 10-12 hours you would probably want to go with a multi or syn gut. Its cheaper as well.
 

Korso

Semi-Pro
Solinco emailed me directly and told me they recommended not to use it past one week, which is on average 10-12 hours of play.

80 hours of play with the same full poly bed is insanity. If you can't break full poly beds in 10-12 hours you would probably want to go with a multi or syn gut. Its cheaper as well.

Yes indeed, someone has a shoulder made out of steel.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
That's one cool thing about old age.
I'm 65, play 3 days a week. I have one of my Aero300's with less than 3 hours of total play, while the other is well over 80, but maybe not 100 hours.
They play identical!
Same goes for both my 4.0 buds, about my size, 5'10" and 150 lbs., and all of us are considered really hard hitters.
 

mikeler

Moderator
That's one cool thing about old age.
I'm 65, play 3 days a week. I have one of my Aero300's with less than 3 hours of total play, while the other is well over 80, but maybe not 100 hours.
They play identical!
Same goes for both my 4.0 buds, about my size, 5'10" and 150 lbs., and all of us are considered really hard hitters.

A really hard hitter would not log 80 hours on a string job.
 

Korso

Semi-Pro
I play with some 50-60 year olds and they tend to keep polys in for a long time playing doubles. Some of them a whole year playing 2-3 times a week.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
A really hard hitter would not log 80 hours on a string job.

Yeah its just not going to happen. Add to that, if they ALL are really hard hitters, than the string would break even faster due to the pace of the incoming ball.

Im going to write that one off as a Leed fantasy as its just not possible to hit hard and have a string last 80 hours.
 

Korso

Semi-Pro
How many hours of comfortable performance are people who use this set up getting on average?

The conversation got away from my question. How many hours of comfortable performance are people getting out of this set up?
 

NLBwell

Legend
I play with some 50-60 year olds and they tend to keep polys in for a long time playing doubles. Some of them a whole year playing 2-3 times a week.

Play doubles, hit flat, don't have shanks -- even if you hit hard, it takes a very long time for poly to wear through and break.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Sometimes, you gotta try to think a little...
If I hit hard, the ball doesn't come back hard. GET IT? It barely floats back, at best.
If I hit soft, the ball comes back hard and to a corner. Since I can't run, it's a winner for the opponent!
See how that shortens points and also allows the strings to last?
Most of us hit way harder than our skill level, so the points last....nil, and the strings last forever.
YOU guys from Florida or whatever, and that doesn't include RobFL, must hit moderately hard, get moderately hard returns back, and do it over and over again.
Out west here, if someone hits hard, the ball doesn't usually even come back at all..:shock::shock::shock:
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Sometimes, you gotta try to think a little...
If I hit hard, the ball doesn't come back hard. GET IT? It barely floats back, at best.
If I hit soft, the ball comes back hard and to a corner. Since I can't run, it's a winner for the opponent!
See how that shortens points and also allows the strings to last?
Most of us hit way harder than our skill level, so the points last....nil, and the strings last forever.
YOU guys from Florida or whatever, and that doesn't include RobFL, must hit moderately hard, get moderately hard returns back, and do it over and over again.
Out west here, if someone hits hard, the ball doesn't usually even come back at all..:shock::shock::shock:

Ill bet however much you can afford that i hit a lot harder than you. Dont be delusional. we are younger, stronger, faster and get more balls back. I find it laughable that all your rallys are 2-3 shots because of this huge pace you think you generate.

If your stringbed lasts 80 hours - DONT use full poly.

And really, out west? Are you that thick? You think there is no one who hits as hard in FL? Haha. you really are full of it man, or just clueless.
 
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Sundan

Rookie
I hit alot harder if i get a hard ball at me,if someone just lob the ball over net i cant get so much pace out of it, and remain control.

I do agree however that it can be harder to control the hard ones if they place them well, and its easier to aim for a corner if i get more time, but it wont be as fast.
 

arche3

Banned
Out west here, if someone hits hard, the ball doesn't usually even come back at all..:shock::shock::shock:

This is one of the lamest post ever by leeD. If your usually playing 12 year old girls I guess you can be goat on the kiddy courts but you might want to play adults sometimes.
 

rafa_prestige89

Professional
Hey Jolly, can you please compare the Jolly Rig II (with Alu smooth) to a full bed of Big Banger Original 16g, in terms of control, spin and power?
 

topspn

Legend
So BBO/Alu rough @48lbs on a prestige midplus. But tension loss is crazy with these two even for polys. I don’t have any rough but I do have BBO and Alu 15g so might try that when I get a chance.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
So BBO/Alu rough @48lbs on a prestige midplus. But tension loss is crazy with these two even for polys. I don’t have any rough but I do have BBO and Alu 15g so might try that when I get a chance.

Jolly breaks strings in 3-5 hrs so I doubt he notices tension loss. Anybody that wants more longevity and tension maintenance should look elsewhere.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
I think this setup deserves its own thread because I truly believe it is better than the vast majority of crap being foisted on tennis players these days, and so I present to you "The Jolly Rig II"

I named it after myself because I am a narcissistic, egotistical, scumbag. If anyone else thought of it first, or named it after themself at an earlier date, well they will just have to deal with the harsh reality that the string setup is now "The Jolly Rig II".

The setup is Luxilon Big Banger Original mains, and Luxilon ALU rough crosses (but ALU smooth can be used equally well).

I began loving full ALUr after hybrids wouldn't last me long enough, then got to the point where I was breaking full ALUr under an hour, and could no longer afford it.

After a long quest and about 15 different strings and hybrids I settled upon "The Jolly Rig" which was Ashaway Kevlar 16 mains, and ALU Rough crosses, this lasted me 3-5 hours, did everything well, and felt great.

Turns out that my racquets couldn't hold up to the Kevlar blend at 70# that they required being strung at (if you didn't string the Jolly Rig tight, it played great for a little while, and then took a dump, and was basically worthless)

And so I sought out lower tensions and a different setup.

I originally disliked BBO because it had no power. It bit the ball well however, I remembered that. So my ploy was to string it at a lower tension, and back it up with an ALU cross to give it some pop, and utilize its bite.

I started at 58, then 56, 54, 50, and now am stringing it at 48#.

It is lively as all get-out strung that low, and I wouldn't recommend it as a starting point for it surely takes some getting used to.

The Jolly Rig II plays amazingly when fresh, and not too bad at the very end.

I like it dead and ready to break more than I like most polys brand new.

Give it a shot, tell me what you think.

J

This is exactly the experience of players on the ATP and WTA tours with the exception of the Kevlar detour. They are finding that poly’strings especially Lux strings are performing better at the lower tensions. 48-50 range. A number of players are in the 40’s with poly/gut and poly/multi hybrids as well. They are going into the 40’s with Gut/poly as well. Hopefully people will listen to your experience because you have tested more poly strings than anyone else on this forum. Thanks
 
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J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Hey Jolly, can you please compare the Jolly Rig II (with Alu smooth) to a full bed of Big Banger Original 16g, in terms of control, spin and power?

Sure, I actually quite like full BBO but it needs to be strung maybe 5# looser than full ALU. JRII and full BBO are nearly identical w/r/t spin and control with perhaps a bit more spin from the JRII and a bit more control from the full BBO. The main difference is that the ALU adds a bit of pop off the stringbed so you are basically paying a little more to gain a bit of juice.

Honestly if you are willing to tinker a bit to find your preferred tension you can't hardly go wrong with either.

I love the feel of ALU and the rig gives me a taste of that too.

J
 

topspn

Legend
Jolly breaks strings in 3-5 hrs so I doubt he notices tension loss. Anybody that wants more longevity and tension maintenance should look elsewhere.
He is still loosing a lot of tension before he even hits one single ball and between hits even if he snaps in 4hrs
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
He is still loosing a lot of tension before he even hits one single ball and between hits even if he snaps in 4hrs

There are a lot of pros that have used these strings fresh off the stringer. I don't think they would do so if they lost so much tension between hits.
 

topspn

Legend
There are a lot of pros that have used these strings fresh off the stringer. I don't think they would do so if they lost so much tension between hits.
Yep, they have 40 racquets and string every set played. But first 24hrs unplayed, these strings loose a lot of tension
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
I don’t think it looses so much tension unplayed, the biggest drop I feel is after 5h of play, when it’s about to snap...

That's what I noticed about ALU Power. Great for 5 hours then lost all controlability and pop. But really nice for those 5 hours.

Never played BBO but heard it was similar.
 
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