McEnroeisanartist
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Congratulations to Federer on being the only player now in "the big 4" to bagel - win a set 6-0 against each of the other three players.
Congrats to Federer - Bageled every one of big 3
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Boom-Boom
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Amazing stat :twisted:
fednad
Hall of Fame
Also, Fed has bageled NadallPants on Grass, Clay and Hard.
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Deleted member 77403
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I have to say, very impressive to bagel all three in very big matches nonetheless.
Gonzalito17
Banned
Amazing display by Federer, he keeps getting better and betterer.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Bagels doled out by members of the Big Four:
Federer: 95 (last: 2019 Basel v Albot)
Nadal: 120 (last: 2022 USO v Gasquet)
Djokovic: 110 (last: 2023 AO v Couacaud)
Murray: 73 (last: 2022 USO v Nava)
(For future reference - bagels from Futures and Challengers: 1, 2, 5, 14)
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Bagels received by members of the Big Four:
Federer (5)
2021 Wimbledon QF vs Hurkacz: 3-6, 6-7(4), 0-6
2008 RG F vs Nadal: 1-6, 3-6, 0-6
1999 Queen's Club R64 vs Byron Black: 3-6, 0-6
1999 RG 1R vs Rafter: 7-5, 3-6, 0-6, 2-6
1999 Monte Carlo R64 vs Vincent Spadea: 6-7(3), 0-6
Nadal (15)
2018 USO QF vs Thiem: 0-6, 6-4, 7-5, 6-7(4), 7-6(5)
2017 Miami R32 vs Kohlschreiber: 0-6, 6-2, 6-3
2015 AO QF vs Berdych, 2-6, 0-6, 6-7(5)
2011 WTF RR vs Federer: 3-6, 0-6
2011 Tokyo F vs Murray: 6-3, 2-6, 0-6
2011 Doha R16 vs Lukas Lacko: 7-6(3), 0-6, 6-3
2009 Rotterdam F vs Murray: 3-6, 6-4, 0-6
2008 Chennai F vs Youzhny: 0-6, 1-6
2007 Paris F vs Nalbandian: 4-6, 0-6
2007 Hamburg F vs Federer: 6-2, 2-6, 0-6
2006 Wimbledon F vs Federer: 0-6, 6-7(5), 7-6(2), 3-6
2005 Monte Carlo F vs Coria: 6-3, 6-1, 0-6, 7-5
2005 Buenos Aires QF vs Gaudio: 6-0, 0-6, 1-6
2004 Lyon R32 vs J Benneteau: 3-6, 0-6
2004 USO 2R vs Roddick: 0-6, 3-6, 4-6
Djokovic (12)
2022 Belgrade F vs Rulev: 2-6, 7-6(4), 0-6
2020 RG F vs Nadal: 0-6, 2-6, 5-7
2019 Rome F vs Nadal: 0-6, 6-4, 1-6
2017 RG QF vs Thiem: 6-7(5), 3-6, 0-6
2016 Rome 3R vs Bellucci: 0-6, 6-3, 6-2
2012 Cincy F vs Federer: 0-6, 6-7(7)
2011 Basel SF vs Nishikori: 6-2, 6-7(4), 0-6
2010 IW R64 vs Mardy Fish: 6-1, 0-6, 6-2
2008 Masters RR vs Davydenko: 7-6(3), 0-6, 7-5
2007 Portugal Open F vs Gasquet: 7-6(7), 0-6, 6-1
2005 USO 1R vs Monfils: 7-5, 4-6, 7-6(5), 0-6, 7-5
2005 AO 1R vs Safin: 0-6, 2-6, 1-6
Murray (14)
2022 Doha R16 vs Agut: 0-6, 1-6
2015 Miami F vs Djokovic: 6-7(3), 6-4, 0-6
2015 AO F vs Djokovic: 6-7(5), 7-6(4), 3-6, 0-6
2014 WTF RR vs Federer: 0-6, 1-6
2010 Toronto R16 vs Monfils: 6-2, 0-6, 6-3
2010 RG 3R vs Baghdatis: 6-2, 6-3, 0-6, 6-2
2009 RG QF vs Fernando Gonzales: 3-6, 6-3, 0-6, 4-6
2008 Toronto R16 vs Wawrinka: 6-2, 0-6, 6-4
2008 Monte Carlo R16 vs Djokovic: 0-6, 4-6
2007 Miami SF vs Djokovic: 1-6, 0-6
2006 Paris Masters R16 vs Dominik Hrbaty: 6-7(6), 0-6
2006 USO 4R vs Davydenko: 1-6, 7-5, 3-6, 0-6
2005 USO 2R vs Arnaud Clement: 2-6, 6-7(2), 6-2, 7-6(4), 0-6
2005 Wimbledon 3R vs Nalbandian: 7-6(4), 6-1, 0-6, 4-6, 1-6
(Green: bageled player won the match)
(As of 2023-01-19)
Federer: 95 (last: 2019 Basel v Albot)
Nadal: 120 (last: 2022 USO v Gasquet)
Djokovic: 110 (last: 2023 AO v Couacaud)
Murray: 73 (last: 2022 USO v Nava)
(For future reference - bagels from Futures and Challengers: 1, 2, 5, 14)
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Bagels received by members of the Big Four:
Federer (5)
2021 Wimbledon QF vs Hurkacz: 3-6, 6-7(4), 0-6
2008 RG F vs Nadal: 1-6, 3-6, 0-6
1999 Queen's Club R64 vs Byron Black: 3-6, 0-6
1999 RG 1R vs Rafter: 7-5, 3-6, 0-6, 2-6
1999 Monte Carlo R64 vs Vincent Spadea: 6-7(3), 0-6
Nadal (15)
2018 USO QF vs Thiem: 0-6, 6-4, 7-5, 6-7(4), 7-6(5)
2017 Miami R32 vs Kohlschreiber: 0-6, 6-2, 6-3
2015 AO QF vs Berdych, 2-6, 0-6, 6-7(5)
2011 WTF RR vs Federer: 3-6, 0-6
2011 Tokyo F vs Murray: 6-3, 2-6, 0-6
2011 Doha R16 vs Lukas Lacko: 7-6(3), 0-6, 6-3
2009 Rotterdam F vs Murray: 3-6, 6-4, 0-6
2008 Chennai F vs Youzhny: 0-6, 1-6
2007 Paris F vs Nalbandian: 4-6, 0-6
2007 Hamburg F vs Federer: 6-2, 2-6, 0-6
2006 Wimbledon F vs Federer: 0-6, 6-7(5), 7-6(2), 3-6
2005 Monte Carlo F vs Coria: 6-3, 6-1, 0-6, 7-5
2005 Buenos Aires QF vs Gaudio: 6-0, 0-6, 1-6
2004 Lyon R32 vs J Benneteau: 3-6, 0-6
2004 USO 2R vs Roddick: 0-6, 3-6, 4-6
Djokovic (12)
2022 Belgrade F vs Rulev: 2-6, 7-6(4), 0-6
2020 RG F vs Nadal: 0-6, 2-6, 5-7
2019 Rome F vs Nadal: 0-6, 6-4, 1-6
2017 RG QF vs Thiem: 6-7(5), 3-6, 0-6
2016 Rome 3R vs Bellucci: 0-6, 6-3, 6-2
2012 Cincy F vs Federer: 0-6, 6-7(7)
2011 Basel SF vs Nishikori: 6-2, 6-7(4), 0-6
2010 IW R64 vs Mardy Fish: 6-1, 0-6, 6-2
2008 Masters RR vs Davydenko: 7-6(3), 0-6, 7-5
2007 Portugal Open F vs Gasquet: 7-6(7), 0-6, 6-1
2005 USO 1R vs Monfils: 7-5, 4-6, 7-6(5), 0-6, 7-5
2005 AO 1R vs Safin: 0-6, 2-6, 1-6
Murray (14)
2022 Doha R16 vs Agut: 0-6, 1-6
2015 Miami F vs Djokovic: 6-7(3), 6-4, 0-6
2015 AO F vs Djokovic: 6-7(5), 7-6(4), 3-6, 0-6
2014 WTF RR vs Federer: 0-6, 1-6
2010 Toronto R16 vs Monfils: 6-2, 0-6, 6-3
2010 RG 3R vs Baghdatis: 6-2, 6-3, 0-6, 6-2
2009 RG QF vs Fernando Gonzales: 3-6, 6-3, 0-6, 4-6
2008 Toronto R16 vs Wawrinka: 6-2, 0-6, 6-4
2008 Monte Carlo R16 vs Djokovic: 0-6, 4-6
2007 Miami SF vs Djokovic: 1-6, 0-6
2006 Paris Masters R16 vs Dominik Hrbaty: 6-7(6), 0-6
2006 USO 4R vs Davydenko: 1-6, 7-5, 3-6, 0-6
2005 USO 2R vs Arnaud Clement: 2-6, 6-7(2), 6-2, 7-6(4), 0-6
2005 Wimbledon 3R vs Nalbandian: 7-6(4), 6-1, 0-6, 4-6, 1-6
(Green: bageled player won the match)
(As of 2023-01-19)
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tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Cannot help notice that Novak wins half the matches he gets a bagel.
You obviously didn't watch the match today.
abmk
Bionic Poster
its not just the serve, but the overall game ..
its ironical though, he came close to being bagelled by ferrer of all people at cincy ...I don't recall him being close to that vs djokovic in any match ...the only time I felt so vs murray was Olympics in 12, but he got through that one as well
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
No, but it is generally true. Obviously. Federer clearly has a better serve than any of Nadal, Djokovic or Murray, and by a fair margin as well.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
as if any further evidence of his divine status was needed......
forzamilan90
Legend
so basically after Fed's 2nd year on tour he was only bagelled in the 2008 French Final, that's a testament to his serve game. Very impressive.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
to their credit, the joker and the muzzette managed to respectively win 4/7 and 3/11 of the matches where they got bageled. not bad !
This isn't really a stat I'd celebrate that much. Federer is an excellent front-runner, so it's natural he'd have those stats. As much as it's an indication of the level he can reach and just not letting up, I'd say it also usually indicates something was wrong with the other player's level; they just didn't show up.
Federer wouldn't have beaten Nadal at the FO 2008 even if he played his best on clay, but the scoreline surely wouldn't have been as lopsided as 1-6 3-6 0-6.
Likewise for some of the bagels Nadal had against Federer. Wimbledon 2006, first set he was nervous and overwhelmed.
FO 2008 was an awful final from Federer, but he did well to even make the final playing like he did.
When I think about tough GS finals for Federer, I don't think about FO 2008. That was easy. Nadal was just too good and Federer had a bad performance, not that he would have won anyways. Tough losses? AO 2005, Rome 2006, FO 2006 & 2007 (17 break chances!), Wimbledon 2008, AO 2009, USO 2009, FO 2011 especially, and Wimbledon 2014.
When I think about tough GS finals for Federer, I don't think about FO 2008. That was easy. Nadal was just too good and Federer had a bad performance, not that he would have won anyways. Tough losses? AO 2005, Rome 2006, FO 2006 & 2007 (17 break chances!), Wimbledon 2008, AO 2009, USO 2009, FO 2011 especially, and Wimbledon 2014.
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
I hope this is correct - as a comparison with another all time great and great server - Sampras
Seattle 1988 R32 Malcolm Allen 4-6 0-6
Indian Wells 1989 R16 Miloslav Mecir Sr 0-6 1-6
Los Angeles 1989 R32 Michael Chang 6-7 0-6
sydney 1990 Qf Mats Wilander 7-6 5-7 0-6
Australian Open 1990 Jordi Arrese R64 0-6 6-2 3-6 6-1 6-3
Milan 1990 Sf Ivan Lendl 6-3 0-6 3-6
Munich 1990 R32 Jonas Svensson 0-6 1-6
Olympics 1992 R16 Andrei Cherkasov 7-6 6-1 5-7 0-6 3-6
Roland Garros 1996 Sf Yevgeny Kafelnikov 6-7 0-6 2-6
Tennis Masters Cup 2000 RR Lleyton Hewitt 5-7 0-6
Seattle 1988 R32 Malcolm Allen 4-6 0-6
Indian Wells 1989 R16 Miloslav Mecir Sr 0-6 1-6
Los Angeles 1989 R32 Michael Chang 6-7 0-6
sydney 1990 Qf Mats Wilander 7-6 5-7 0-6
Australian Open 1990 Jordi Arrese R64 0-6 6-2 3-6 6-1 6-3
Milan 1990 Sf Ivan Lendl 6-3 0-6 3-6
Munich 1990 R32 Jonas Svensson 0-6 1-6
Olympics 1992 R16 Andrei Cherkasov 7-6 6-1 5-7 0-6 3-6
Roland Garros 1996 Sf Yevgeny Kafelnikov 6-7 0-6 2-6
Tennis Masters Cup 2000 RR Lleyton Hewitt 5-7 0-6
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Nadal got hammered by Youzhny didn't he? I always forget about that match....
Boom-Boom
Legend
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Deleted member 77403
Guest
Not sure what's the worst, bagel received from Benneteau or Lacko
Nadal leads the list with the most bagels?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Federer baggeled the best clay court player of all time in Nadal onclay and also baggeled the second best HC player of this era in Djokovic on HC
Impressive
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
+1. I think Toni has said the same.
Narcissist
Semi-Pro
At least a few have been strategic tanking of sets.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Federer can just get on a roll sometimes when the opponent is hitting short or not putting him under pressure where he's mixing up his game hitting the lines, using his touch etc...
moonballs
Hall of Fame
The official name of this phenomenon is Fed Express.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Federer has bagelled Roddick,Hewitt, Nadal,Djokovic,Murray,Nalbandian.Plenty of them
Povl Carstensen
Legend
It seems the other three has not shown up as often as Federer.
Boom-Boom
Legend
Crazy to be able to bagel the top 3 past 30 at an age when most players retire/decline :shock:
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Deleted member 688153
Guest
Plus three of Rogi's four were in junk time (1999) so barely count.
And the other was substandard Roger vs. GOATing Nadal in an RG final.
Not bad.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
Precisely
Indeed it is. Unfortunately, it doesn't happen that often anymore. Shanghai came close, but other than that, we haven't really seen it for a full match since 2012 imo.
Boom-Boom
Legend
Impressive indeed. Even if I love Fabrice Santoro, he's a bit out of his league in that list
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Djokovic might bagel him tomorrow!
Impressive indeed. Even if I love Fabrice Santoro, he's a bit out of his league in that list
I added him because Federer could not bagel any other top Frenchman
Monfils, Tsonga, Simon - all have survived their encounters with Federer without a single bagel along the way.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Update bump
The Harkleroad
Rookie
ALL wins by Nadal, Djokovic and Murray came when they got bageled in the 2nd set of a best of 3 match and 3rd set of a best of 5 match.
Most probably 90% are strategic tanking.
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HewittAlwaysDisappoints
Professional
Not all
Djokovic: 2005 USO 1R vs Monfils: 7-5, 4-6, 7-6(5), 0-6, 7-5
This one was in the first set.
Besides, unless they tried to get the advantage of serving first in the final set, there's no reason to get bageled and have the humiliation it brings too them.
The Harkleroad
Rookie
^
Let me rephrase that. All bagels in their wins came in the next to last set.
When i say tanking, it's not really all out tanking where you give away the set. It's tanking in the sense that when they were probably down 30/40-0 on their opponents serve at 4-0, 5-0 or when they fell 0-40, 15-40 while serving at 0-4, 0-5, they most likely have put lesser effort than usual.
Let me rephrase that. All bagels in their wins came in the next to last set.
When i say tanking, it's not really all out tanking where you give away the set. It's tanking in the sense that when they were probably down 30/40-0 on their opponents serve at 4-0, 5-0 or when they fell 0-40, 15-40 while serving at 0-4, 0-5, they most likely have put lesser effort than usual.
Federer20042006
Banned
What a fighter Nadal is with all those bagels!
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Murray bump
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The Harkleroad
Rookie
^ wrong score for Nadal vs Lacko
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Hmmm I am pretty sure it's right
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=N409&oId=L797
The Harkleroad
Rookie
Yup it's right now. The first one i saw was the same score as Nadal-Murray Rotterdam (3-6, 6-4, 0-6), like the quoted one on the first post on this page.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Miami update: Murray equals Nadal's mark of 13 bagels received. 4th bagel at the hands of Djokovic.
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