Seeding at Sectionals?
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schmke
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In my section, it is often the case that two teams from each district go to Sectionals and to avoid premature rematches, the teams from the same district are always put in separate flights. Then two districts are usually the strongest, so they make sure to not put the district winners from those two districts in the same flight. Otherwise I was told it was "random" how the flights were filled out.
But I'm not sure, beyond putting teams in flights, what "seeding" happens. There are certainly times one flight ends up being a lot stronger than the other(s), you can look at some of my playoff previews to see that.
But I'm not sure, beyond putting teams in flights, what "seeding" happens. There are certainly times one flight ends up being a lot stronger than the other(s), you can look at some of my playoff previews to see that.
wings56
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12 teams this year at 4.5... too many to make it all round robin
wings56
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It would be interesting if they would seed based on highest DNTRP. It might actually help to reduce sandbagging ... players would want high DNTRP in order to not have to play stronger teams in earlier matches
winchestervatennis
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Whay makes you say that anout Southern? I was there this year and there wasn't any indication of "seeding" for the groups. It looked like they separated the wild card from the winner of that state so they didnt meet in group play, but I didn't see anything that indicated seeding.
ncgator
Rookie
It's been a couple years since I went to Sectionals, but the last time I went in 2015, I think info in the captain's packet had the teams numbered, and the #s appeared to correlate with the strength of the teams indicating seeding that may have been used to establish the flights / groups. Not really much seeding since you play all of the other teams in your group, but just a way to try and somewhat balance the two groups. Hard to really compare the strength of the teams on paper since you don't really know the strength of leagues/teams in the various states. Have seen several times where two teams from the same state play in the finals, one the state champion and the other a wildcard from the same state.
wings56
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We had 3 flights of 4 teams, no wilds. We lost to the eventual champions in group play and did not advance due to a second place team from another flight losing 2 fewer sets to our team.
We were likely the second strongest team there. The flight that advanced two teams was dramatically weaker than the others.
It almost seemed they gave a free pass to the local team by giving them a bunny flight.
I'd think it would have looked differently if there were seeds.
We were likely the second strongest team there. The flight that advanced two teams was dramatically weaker than the others.
It almost seemed they gave a free pass to the local team by giving them a bunny flight.
I'd think it would have looked differently if there were seeds.
That's cool the wildcard is based on merit. Here the wildcard is merely luck of the draw.
That's what happened last year with the 5.0+ national champions. The winning team was runner up at districts then runner up at sectionals to the same team.
Then won nationals. Have to think the other team was kicking themselves after having bested eventual champion twice already.
wings56
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What section allows the second place team to advance to nationals?
wings56
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Wild is the name that is given to the second place team from an area. This year there were none of those in the draw. We have had years in the past where bigger cities get to play their second place teams.
Looks like it was Southern. The North Carolina team to be exact. They were awarded a wildcard into both Sectionals and Nationals.
schmke
Legend
At some levels like 5.0, some sections don't send teams so there are open spots in the normal 17 section flights and I believe sections can request to send their second place team as a wildcard to fill a spot.
wings56
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Geesh! Texas is so competitive.... we could send 2 or more solid teams to nationals at 4.5. Would love to lobby USTA for another slot
Southern is the biggest section so it makes sense for them to get a wildcard at nationals when needed.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
what if you go to the Sectionals and play a match there ,, do you get a benchmark rating then ?
Why are you obsessed with benchmark ratings ?
Literally everyone that plays in the playoffs gets a benchmark rating. It doesn't mean you are highly rated or anything. And no one gets a published B rating anymore.
wings56
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Only me. Others still get a C
wings56
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Just a little trolling
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