Well you would need to take in to context with my previous posts to be fair or not?Calling a racquet "crap" and then saying it is "sincere criticism". You win the internet award for today
Ps: love my new pure drive and think it is amazing. It is a little under spec but within tolerance. Enjoy it much more than previous 2015 version.
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jmacdaununder2
Legend
Please understand that I'm laughing with you, not at you, and that your ability to communicate in a foreign language is far better than my reverse, but 'primate' pretty much means 'ape' or 'monkey' etc. and many would contend that there are plenty of those even in the top hundred now and/or recently - especially from daununder...
tennisgurl
Semi-Pro
Taking into context, you have pretty much asserted yourself as the ATP top 300 player/expert here (without any proof I might add) who thinks the new Pure Drive lacks control and isn't for serious tennis. Truth is far from it. New Pure Drives are being used at all serious tennis levels, and are pretty popular at recreational level as well. Sorry, but I don't think there is much else to say here. Anyway, lets not hijack the thread anymore and move on. Thanks.
Karma Tennis
Legend
I can certainly create better equipment for myself and some players close to me whose games I understand. I cannot remember a time when we used stock off the shelf retail racquets. In all cases, the players games improved as a result.
I agree that most of it is the way the player plays. Certainly the case for young players, or players that are developing the basics of the game. But once a player reaches a certain level, the attention to detail can make a positive difference, especially in an environment where other competitors don't apply the same effort.
Just ask Rafa Nadal or Novak Djokovic.
WillGinRVA
Rookie
Can y'all and everyone else in this thread take your arguing to private messages please? Disappointing to see new posts in the thread, click into it, and then seeing it's just 2 people who can't let something go.
Karma Tennis
Legend
We y'all are just keeping the Babolat thread Bench Seat warm until Josh can give us some news about the products. It also gives Babolat and Josh an opportunity to see what the supporters of Bab products are thinking. He probably doesn't have a lot of time to trawl through the other threads on TTW so this is the ideal place to discuss / debate / argue issues that are associated with Babolat products past, present and future.
Otherwise, the thread just fills with posts asking when the next PA VS is going to be released ... which Josh has already said will be March 2020.
jmacdaununder2
Legend
PA VS+ would certainly be a nice addition, but unfortunately seems unlikely to happen. Pure Aero Tour+ would be nice as well, given that there's a PD Tour+. (I know, I know, just lead 'em up, etc. etc.)
Babolat Official
Hall of Fame
Hi dr.,
Yes, the release date in the US is March 3rd at this point, and it will launch in the rest of the world on February 10th. We have only recently received our hitting samples here in the US, so I haven't had a chance to hit with it yet. Early feedback from those who have has been positive, and the racquet is best described as being somewhere between the previous Pure Aero VS and the current Pure Aero. Like the Pure Drive VS, the goal is to keep the characteristics of the rest of the family, but to provide more precision and slightly less power. Based on the feedback we received from the Pure Drive VS, we also increased the weight on the Pure Aero VS and it is coming in at 305 grams unstrung. The VS family of racquets are designed with high performance players in mind, and is the reason we wanted more precision, as well as the ability to purchase the racquet in matched pairs. Here is a pic for your viewing pleasure:
Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Josh
Hi dr.,
Yes, the release date in the US is March 3rd at this point, and it will launch in the rest of the world on February 10th. We have only recently received our hitting samples here in the US, so I haven't had a chance to hit with it yet. Early feedback from those who have has been positive, and the racquet is best described as being somewhere between the previous Pure Aero VS and the current Pure Aero. Like the Pure Drive VS, the goal is to keep the characteristics of the rest of the family, but to provide more precision and slightly less power. Based on the feedback we received from the Pure Drive VS, we also increased the weight on the Pure Aero VS and it is coming in at 305 grams unstrung. The VS family of racquets are designed with high performance players in mind, and is the reason we wanted more precision, as well as the ability to purchase the racquet in matched pairs. Here is a pic for your viewing pleasure:
Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Josh
Thats an amazing PJ.
Hi dr.,
Yes, the release date in the US is March 3rd at this point, and it will launch in the rest of the world on February 10th. We have only recently received our hitting samples here in the US, so I haven't had a chance to hit with it yet. Early feedback from those who have has been positive, and the racquet is best described as being somewhere between the previous Pure Aero VS and the current Pure Aero. Like the Pure Drive VS, the goal is to keep the characteristics of the rest of the family, but to provide more precision and slightly less power. Based on the feedback we received from the Pure Drive VS, we also increased the weight on the Pure Aero VS and it is coming in at 305 grams unstrung. The VS family of racquets are designed with high performance players in mind, and is the reason we wanted more precision, as well as the ability to purchase the racquet in matched pairs. Here is a pic for your viewing pleasure:
Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Josh
Josh, do you have the Stiffness rating of the racquet?
marceloriosfan
Rookie
Hi dr.,
Yes, the release date in the US is March 3rd at this point, and it will launch in the rest of the world on February 10th. We have only recently received our hitting samples here in the US, so I haven't had a chance to hit with it yet. Early feedback from those who have has been positive, and the racquet is best described as being somewhere between the previous Pure Aero VS and the current Pure Aero. Like the Pure Drive VS, the goal is to keep the characteristics of the rest of the family, but to provide more precision and slightly less power. Based on the feedback we received from the Pure Drive VS, we also increased the weight on the Pure Aero VS and it is coming in at 305 grams unstrung. The VS family of racquets are designed with high performance players in mind, and is the reason we wanted more precision, as well as the ability to purchase the racquet in matched pairs. Here is a pic for your viewing pleasure:
Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Josh
hope it hits as good as it looks.
is there going to be a forum test? Grip 2 hint hint
dr. godmode
Hall of Fame
very excited for this. really hoping the twistweight is as low as possible like the APDO (from which the cosmetic is similar) and many pure storms
SaaKha
Semi-Pro
Hi dr.,
Yes, the release date in the US is March 3rd at this point, and it will launch in the rest of the world on February 10th. We have only recently received our hitting samples here in the US, so I haven't had a chance to hit with it yet. Early feedback from those who have has been positive, and the racquet is best described as being somewhere between the previous Pure Aero VS and the current Pure Aero. Like the Pure Drive VS, the goal is to keep the characteristics of the rest of the family, but to provide more precision and slightly less power. Based on the feedback we received from the Pure Drive VS, we also increased the weight on the Pure Aero VS and it is coming in at 305 grams unstrung. The VS family of racquets are designed with high performance players in mind, and is the reason we wanted more precision, as well as the ability to purchase the racquet in matched pairs. Here is a pic for your viewing pleasure:
Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Josh
Babolat rep came to my club this morning for a little Thanksgiving tennis tournament we were holding. Brought the new PA VS in with him. Looks great in person.
tennisgurl
Semi-Pro
That looks gorgeous. Just like the PD VS except with yellow. I thought PD VS was fantastic sleek greyish silver as well.Hi dr.,
Yes, the release date in the US is March 3rd at this point, and it will launch in the rest of the world on February 10th. We have only recently received our hitting samples here in the US, so I haven't had a chance to hit with it yet. Early feedback from those who have has been positive, and the racquet is best described as being somewhere between the previous Pure Aero VS and the current Pure Aero. Like the Pure Drive VS, the goal is to keep the characteristics of the rest of the family, but to provide more precision and slightly less power. Based on the feedback we received from the Pure Drive VS, we also increased the weight on the Pure Aero VS and it is coming in at 305 grams unstrung. The VS family of racquets are designed with high performance players in mind, and is the reason we wanted more precision, as well as the ability to purchase the racquet in matched pairs. Here is a pic for your viewing pleasure:
Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Josh
n8dawg6
Legend
wow! thats sharpHi dr.,
Yes, the release date in the US is March 3rd at this point, and it will launch in the rest of the world on February 10th. We have only recently received our hitting samples here in the US, so I haven't had a chance to hit with it yet. Early feedback from those who have has been positive, and the racquet is best described as being somewhere between the previous Pure Aero VS and the current Pure Aero. Like the Pure Drive VS, the goal is to keep the characteristics of the rest of the family, but to provide more precision and slightly less power. Based on the feedback we received from the Pure Drive VS, we also increased the weight on the Pure Aero VS and it is coming in at 305 grams unstrung. The VS family of racquets are designed with high performance players in mind, and is the reason we wanted more precision, as well as the ability to purchase the racquet in matched pairs. Here is a pic for your viewing pleasure:
Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Josh
longtimelurker
Professional
Hi dr.,
Yes, the release date in the US is March 3rd at this point, and it will launch in the rest of the world on February 10th. We have only recently received our hitting samples here in the US, so I haven't had a chance to hit with it yet. Early feedback from those who have has been positive, and the racquet is best described as being somewhere between the previous Pure Aero VS and the current Pure Aero. Like the Pure Drive VS, the goal is to keep the characteristics of the rest of the family, but to provide more precision and slightly less power. Based on the feedback we received from the Pure Drive VS, we also increased the weight on the Pure Aero VS and it is coming in at 305 grams unstrung. The VS family of racquets are designed with high performance players in mind, and is the reason we wanted more precision, as well as the ability to purchase the racquet in matched pairs. Here is a pic for your viewing pleasure:
Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Josh
My credit card is already drooling
haqq777
Legend
longtimelurker
Professional
Sold in pairs also like pdvs ?
blackpearl2007
Semi-Pro
Great looking racquet...will there be a tour version? Sorry if this has been previously stated.
Karma Tennis
Legend
I believe Babaolat will sell all VS models in matched pairs initially - at least to the Retailers. The Retailers may then choose to sell them separately to end users.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Jack Sock and Viktor Troicki use the Aero Storm. Felix Auger Aliassime has been using the old Pure Aero VS
Alexh22
Professional
So this isn’t a pure aero ?
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JackSockIsTheBest
Professional
the 2016-2018 one?
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
You’re right I forgot he switched to the Pure AeroSo this isn’t a pure aero ?
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longtimelurker
Professional
There will be one also
Pure Control Zylon 360 had an unstrung RA of 70 and strung RA of 67, like I mentioned earlier.
The last gen of Pure Controls that you cited were softer. But those were the last gen and not older ones which I was pointing to. They were the least popular too because they lacked in everything and were an odd mix of Storms and Controls. Older Pure Controls were either low 70s (Swirlys for example at 72) or no lower than 70 (like the Team and Zylon 360). Unstrung off course.
I played regularly with older PCTs and PC which on paper were very stiff. Still have a couple of those. Never had any issues either. Absolute beasts and would obliterate the ball.
@haqq777 funny thing though, I just have seen a photo of a Zylon 360 Pure Control, 295g, which has printed on it: RA 64
haqq777
Legend
Interesting. Share pic please? I have played with Zylon 360 PC. That stick is absolutely nowhere close to 64 RA, and that too unstrung (since printed specs are always unstrung).
haqq777
Legend
@blablavla This is a picture I have of a Pure Storm Zylon 360.
The inside of the Pure Storm mentions 64 RA, not the Pure Control. I think you are confusing the two. As I mentioned earlier, Pure Controls were stiffer at 70 RA.
The inside of the Pure Storm mentions 64 RA, not the Pure Control. I think you are confusing the two. As I mentioned earlier, Pure Controls were stiffer at 70 RA.
@blablavla This is a picture I have of a Pure Storm Zylon 360.
The inside of the Pure Storm mentions 64 RA, not the Pure Control. I think you are confusing the two. As I mentioned earlier, Pure Controls were stiffer at 70 RA.
the photo I have seen clearly says Zylon 360 Pure Control
295g
98 inch
I'll share it with you once I get it.
haqq777
Legend
Oh I see. Interesting. Look forward to seeing the pic.
DJ-
Hall of Fame
Limited edition babolat release as far as I know !
dr. godmode
Hall of Fame
Official release, presumably for the Olympics
Karma Tennis
Legend
Would be nice to see Spain, Switzerland and Serbia as well, given the significance of its players.
McLovin
Legend
Actually, given that its a Babolat frame, I'd say guys form Spain, Austria, and Italy are the more 'significant' players...
France?
McLovin
Legend
They have one for them already, don't they? Isn't the one on the far right of the pic above France's flag version?
Babolat Official
Hall of Fame
Hi Nostradamus,
The 2020 Strikes have been doing very well so far. Initial sell in to dealers was more than the previous version, and so far the sell out at retail seems to be higher as well. Hopefully this trend continues!
-Josh
Babolat Official
Hall of Fame
Hi Sanister,
There are not any plans currently to have extended versions of the VS racquets. Doesn't mean there won't be, and if the VS line continues to resonate with players, there certainly could be.
-Josh
Babolat Official
Hall of Fame
Babolat Official
Hall of Fame
Hi marceloriosfan,
Those are usually coordinated by TW, and I would be surprised if there isn't one, so stay tuned!
-Josh
Babolat Official
Hall of Fame
Hi blackpearl,
I haven't heard any plans to make a heavier version yet, but as the VS line continues to evolve, it wouldn't surprise me if there was one. The feedback on the Pure Drive VS indicated that players wanted it to be slightly heavier, so that is why the Pure Aero VS comes in at 305 unstrung.
-Josh
Babolat Official
Hall of Fame
Sold in pairs also like pdvs ?
Hi longtimelurker,
The Pure Aero VS will be available individually or in matched pairs. The Pure Drive VS is now available individually or in pairs as well.
-Josh
Babolat Official
Hall of Fame
Hi Alexh22,
Not at this time, but hopefully some will switch in the off-season. We all know how challenging it can be to get players to make equipment changes since they are presumably dialed in to what they have, so chances are a player switching to Babolat will be the first to use one, and of course up and coming juniors will be as well.
-Josh
