2022 Montreal R2: [1] D. Medvedev vs. [37] N. Kyrgios

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Kyrgios or Medvedev


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Baseline_Bungle

Hall of Fame
Yes, they are both nextgen. What's your point?

My point is top-ranked players lose matches too. If not, Bill Tilden would still be n. 1... And this particular n. 1 just lost to the hottest player on tour, who incidentally has beaten him 3 out of 4 times. So while it may have a been a slight upset, I see nothing utterly shocking. And certainly no reason to use this match for the same, old, stale "next gen sucks" arguments.
 

Rattie

Legend
He’s nowhere near a favorite of mine but talent is talent. When he’s on it he’s got one of the most devastating serves of all time, plus he’s backing it up with cool volleys today. You need to hope he loses focus mentally or else he’s close to unbreakable for most of the Tour.
I’d agree with all that.
 

guanzishou

G.O.A.T.
Net point won: 27 Nick, 9 Medvedev :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


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TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
My point is top-ranked players lose matches too. If not, Bill Tilden would still be n. 1... And this particular n. 1 just lost to the hottest player on tour, who incidentally has beaten him 3 out of 4 times. So while it may have a been a slight upset, I see nothing utterly shocking. And certainly no reason to use this match for the same, old, stale "next gen sucks" arguments.
Fair play, but next gen does totally sucks though.
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
Med’s inability to move up even slightly on return is just embarrassing. I get that it’s your gameplan but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

He was looking just as embarrassing on return against Hurkacz last year. Didn't have a single break point in 3 long sets (still won the match but mostly because Hurkacz choked in the key moments, which Kyrgios didn't do today).
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
He was looking just as embarrassing on return against Hurkacz last year. Didn't have a single break point in 3 long sets (still won the match but mostly because Hurkacz choked in the key moments, which Kyrgios didn't do today).
I mean, when Novak Djokovic is making you look foolish with his volleying then you have issues. Don’t get me wrong Djok is a much improved volleyer and has always been good to great at the pickup volleys below the waist. But let’s be honest, a serve and volleyer he is not.

Med just doesn’t change his returning ever and it’s thus incredibly easy to gameplan for. Yeah he’ll hit some laser beams by you but on the whole, SnV is a winning strategy.

I don’t buy into the whole “older players would wreck the NextGen” thing hypotheticals usually but in Med’s case, he would literally be completely unable to break a prime Sampras, Becker, or Edberg. Give him 100 tries and they’d hold 100 times. His return position alone is embarrassing, but his inability to adjust whatsoever is damning.
 
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