A Desciption of How Tomorrow's Final Will Unfold

winstonplum

Hall of Fame
This could be an interesting match as we'll see what Stan's made of. I still think of Stan as a career fourth-rounder/quarter-finalist, so there should be no reason why Roger doesn't ease his way to this title. But here's what will happen:

Scenario #1: Stan gets off to a good start and takes the first set, say 6-3 or 6-2. Towards the middle of the second set he'll get a break and will serve for the match at 5-3 or 5-4. This will be the moment of truth. It will get to 30-15 or maybe 30-30, and we'll have the point of the match. The tension will be palpable. You could cut it with a knife, as it were. Stan will have a sitter volley or a sitter groundie for one or two MPs. He'll skull it and Roger will escape. Most likely the sitter will come after Roger has been on the defensive for the entire point and has saved the point about three or four times when it looked like Stan had won the point. Rog will break and on we'll go.

Because this isn't the old Stan, the second set will go to a TB and Stan will get another look at 4-2, 5-2 in the breaker, up a mini-break or two. Part of mental giganticness is being able to slay demons over and over, even though you've failed over and over. If it was easy to beat people who've owned you by winning one crucial point, everyone would do it. Part of being a career-long pigeon is failing three, four, five, six times in a match to put it away. Stan might double fault, get tentative, whatever. Rog takes TB 8-6.

New Stan battles gamely in the third but goes down an early break and loses 6-4 or 6-3 in the decider. The weight off opportunity loss dragging him down the entire third set. I'd give this scenario about 75%.

Scenario 2: Stan comes about tight and nervous and drops the first rather timidly, 6-3. New Stan fights gamely in the second set and wins it 6-3. The match feels even, the crowd is energized; what will happen? Stan will get up a break in the third and will serve at 4-3 to get himself one game away. He will get up 30-0. He will then make two unforced errors to get it to 30-30. He will find his inner warrior and hit a winner for game point. Roger will answer in kind with beauty of his own. Deuce. And then deuce. And then deuce. I'm calling five deuces in this game before Roger converts his second break point. Roger holds for 5-4. Stan holds. Roger holds. Stan falls down 0-30, two point from losing. 15-30. 30-30. 30-40. Roger converts first match point. Seemed like a close match. Really wasn't. I give this scenario 55%.

Scenario 3. Stan goes toe to toe with Roger and wins a tight first set 6-4 or 7-5. Second set goes to a breaker and goes down to the wire, maybe 6 all, 7 all in the breaker before Stan gets a match point. I say he blows two MPs before converting on the third to take the breaker 9-7 and the match. I give this scenario 5%.
 

henryshli

Semi-Pro
I disagree. Clay is Wawrinka's favorite surface and he has beaten Federer on a clay masters before so it is not correct to say that there should be no reason why Federer doesn't win with ease.
 

LazyNinja19

Banned
So 75+55+5 = 135%? ;)
Man, you should write a a screenplay for a Tennis movie. I had goosebumps reading this.

As for today, not every match turns out into an epic like we hope. Probability for today is a straight sets win for Roger, & he'll reclaim Swiss#1. One tight set & 1 easy one.

Stan took it to Novak, and Rafa. Today is his ultimate test - Roger. We'll see his mental strength today! Maybe he can surprise everyone :)
 

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
I think what the OP has described is the possibilities in a Almagro-Nadal or Berdych-Nadal match. Oh wait, but Berd won't even have as many chances because he will need to take breaks from the match to tweet about the thrill of watching his Warrior hero on fire from the best seat in the house :lol:
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
OP has a fertile imagination, and a lot of time on his hands to imagine detailed scenarios.

What about the scenario where Stan does a repeat of the Ferrer match ?
 

Warmaster

Hall of Fame
Another brilliant post Winstomplum. It showcases your vivid imagination, good sense of reality and mathematical prowess all at once!

I'm looking forward to another post about probabilities in the future!
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
You increasingly come off as a bitter Nadal fan. going on about how Nadal won't make the semis of RG and basically writing one long post moaning that fed will thump stan. Stan never even won a set vs Nadal before the ao final, he has as much chance if not more of beating fed.
 

winstonplum

Hall of Fame
I'm not bitter at all. I don't care who wins. I was just having some fun with a prediction. I think if Stan gets close he will not get it done in the tight spots.
 

NADALRECORD

Banned
Outside of Nadal winning, this Monte Carlo has been absolutely perfect.

1) If Nadal is going to lose, I always hope its to Ferrer - I feel sympathetic toward Ferrer, just as I suspect Nadal does.
2) If Federer is going to win, I always hope its over Djokovic.
3) I don't want Federer to win Monte Carlo, whereas Wawrinka has never won a Masters event, so no problem if Wawrinka wins.
4) Nadal increased his ranking lead over Djokovic by 220 points.
5) Nadal becomes hungrier because he lost to Ferrer.
 

LazyNinja19

Banned
Outside of Nadal winning, this Monte Carlo has been absolutely perfect.

1) If Nadal is going to lose, I always hope its to Ferrer - I feel sympathetic toward Ferrer, just as I suspect Nadal does.
2) If Federer is going to win, I always hope its over Djokovic.
3) I don't want Federer to win Monte Carlo, whereas Wawrinka has never won a Masters event, so no problem if Wawrinka wins.
4) Nadal increased his ranking lead over Djokovic by 220 points.
5) Nadal becomes hungrier because he lost to Ferrer.

Saying all of this out loud is quite pathetic though.
 
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