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Thanks for the tip.You could also try stringing the crosses slightly tighter than the mains to reduce mains movement to some degree.
Thanks for the tip.You could also try stringing the crosses slightly tighter than the mains to reduce mains movement to some degree.
have you tried the prince 100 p ? or a 100sq inch pro kennex frame ?I play better and more consistent with 100 inch tweener frames.
Thanks. No, I haven’t tried any of those racquets. I did try the speed MP, Dunlop CX 400 Tour but I guess I prefer a bit wider beam (tweener style ). I have a Clash 100 as well but it lacks a bit of power I think and sometimes it launches the ball strangely.have you tried the prince 100 p ? or a 100sq inch pro kennex frame ?
i think the new shift is supposed to be comfy despite its higher ra(it is flexy perpendicular to the plane in which ra is measured, iiuc), has a thick beam, and has a dense pattern. i have never hit with it, so launch angle might still be high, but it seems like it could check many of your boxes.Thanks. No, I haven’t tried any of those racquets. I did try the speed MP, Dunlop CX 400 Tour but I guess I prefer a bit wider beam (tweener style ). I have a Clash 100 as well but it lacks a bit of power I think and sometimes it launches the ball strangely.
Yes, thanks. Most likely will demo it. Seems to have a nice string pattern indeed. I never thought string pattern can influence the launch angle so much…..i think the new shift is supposed to be comfy despite its higher ra(it is flexy perpendicular to the plane in which ra is measured, iiuc), has a thick beam, and has a dense pattern. i have never hit with it, so launch angle might still be high, but it seems like it could check many of your boxes.
Nice post!Bit harsh Mike. Not everyone is the same as you. I string for a bunch of rec players (from 3.0 to 4.5) and none of them are having arm issues with poly. It's just about keeping a very close eye on the health of your arm (which is the first question I ask when someone comes to me as a client). If their arm is healthy and they're not playing excessively (or with excessive force), most people have no problems with poly. One guy refuses to cut it out and has played with dead Alu for 2 years without any problem at all. So go figure! I'd love to know the physiological differences that lead some people to have problems whist others remain fine (I suspect it's connected with pace/power levels as my clients tend to be softer hitters and clearly the harmful vibrations are amplified by power).
I wouldn't describe any of my clients as 'pro-wannabes'. It's more that people want a string which will last a long time... and I'm of the opinion that if something is working fine then there's nothing wrong with it.
Having said all of that, I totally agree that it's possible to play high level tennis without poly and technique is paramount. There's no doubt that poly can make it EASIER to play, and DOES enable higher performance...but that 'cheat code' often actually hinders the development of optimum technique. The best players are those that concentrated on technique long before using poly, and thus don't rely on snap-back to produce spin. Those players can switch between any frame with any strings and still achieve unbelievable spin and control. But it takes a huge amount of time and money (not to mention natural ability) to reach that level...and for most of us, we'd rather just play a couple of sessions a week using the cheat code!
I think these days there's a lot more awareness in the tennis industry (even amongst rec level stringers like myself) about arm health and the dangers of poly...so many people are given good advice as soon as any arm problems develop.
@TennisViking The new Shift 300 (with added weight) is great for me with softer Maymi polies...Check its trhead, as it has power, spin etc.i think the new shift is supposed to be comfy despite its higher ra(it is flexy perpendicular to the plane in which ra is measured, iiuc), has a thick beam, and has a dense pattern. i have never hit with it, so launch angle might still be high, but it seems like it could check many of your boxes.
I totally agree...I picked up the game after a layoff of 30 years from an extended bout of TE..... so if I come off as intense thats the reason....I now practice on the wall even more than I play with a partner.....to improve my technique mostly and sometimes finding another soul who wants to practice like the pro's is tough....But working on technique allows me to hit with extreme topspin or slice because of technique and not my string or racquet choice btw head graph 360 radical S(2018) with orange prince syn 16 modded with foam in the frame weighs 11.6 ozNice post!
@mike schiffer It's also about technique, btw.
Good, but neither me, nor my coaches are sure about the benefits of the wall practice, unless you do only one shot at the time or such?I totally agree...I picked up the game after a layoff of 30 years from an extended bout of TE..... so if I come off as intense thats the reason....I now practice on the wall even more than I play with a partner.....to improve my technique mostly and sometimes finding another soul who wants to practice like the pro's is tough....But working on technique allows me to hit with extreme topspin or slice because of technique and not my string or racquet choice btw head graph radical S(2018) with orange prince syn 16
wutGood, but neither me, nor my coaches are sure about the benefits of the wall practice, unless you do only one shot at the time or such?
Also, let's presume that you only have less advanced partners, than maybe you could defend more or execute more difficult shots/drills?
I tried poly one last time like 6 months ago, not even 4 hours of play and my elbow was hurting, never again, even if it makes me play like Roger, I prefer to play like me for a long time than play amazing for a couple of hours and never play again.really so glad the sporting goods industry that gave us the wilson Profile that almost guaranteed TE in anyone foolish enuf {me} to wield it and lose 25 years of tennis time due to tissue scarring and joint inflammation and breakdown and then come up with a string that did something in the vicinity of the same and have a long string life but it really did some damage after an hour or two of it's prime string life.... those who can enjoy........enjoy.......but I love to see your comments about how your having degree's of incremental damage occur and what do you do.....your gonna mix the same poly with another poly and hope for a lesser degree of micro scarring and inflammation...good luck iron elbow players...cant understand it
Not trying to sound rude, but you and your coaches should consider some of the great players that credit the wall with making them so good. McEnroe is the first that comes to mind, but he played with a wooden racquet and a continental grip, in a different era of tennis, right? Well, there is also a certain Novak Djokovic that says the wall is where he honed his skills, so...Good, but neither me, nor my coaches are sure about the benefits of the wall practice, unless you do only one shot at the time or such?
Also, let's presume that you only have less advanced partners, than maybe you could defend more or execute more difficult shots/drills?
Sure if you move like Joker, why not?Not trying to sound rude, but you and your coaches should consider some of the great players that credit the wall with making them so good. McEnroe is the first that comes to mind, but he played with a wooden racquet and a continental grip, in a different era of tennis, right? Well, there is also a certain Novak Djokovic that says the wall is where he honed his skills, so...
What does moving like Djokovic have to do with it?Sure if you move like Joker, why not?
Besides, are you a coach?
Do you have to ask?What does moving like Djokovic have to do with it?
(Read this as a calm sober question not an aggressive challenge.)
Try alternating groundstrokes with reaction shots or standing a bit further back.Do you have to ask?
Try taking a full swing at the ball, it is going to come back fast from the wall.
The only poster I remember here who can do a moderate pace wall practice of more then one shot is @Sir Weed .
Walls usually don't have room for you to stand further back.Try alternating groundstrokes with reaction shots or standing a bit further back.
Where are you hitting on walls that don't have this? All three I use regularly have at least the standard baseline buffer depth behind them, two because they are aligned with a court.Walls usually don't have room for you to stand further back.
I just strung Cyber Flash mains and Isospeed professional Classic cross, seems like a very soft hybrid. I will play tonight so I will see how my arm takes it.Poly with isospeed control crosses is quite popular here and a very comfy combo. But I also live in isospeed country so that might have something to do with it.
I strung Silver 7 tour mains with isospeed professional classic crosses for my brother.I just strung Cyber Flash mains and Isospeed professional Classic cross, seems like a very soft hybrid. I will play tonight so I will see how my arm takes it.
Have you or your team mates any experience with shaped poly and Isospeed control or prof as cross ? Thanks.
Great, good to know. What would you use in tension difference ? I strung Iso 1kg higher than poly mains.I strung Silver 7 tour mains with isospeed professional classic crosses for my brother.
I was worried it would break very quickly but he already used it for 5-6 hours without it breaking.
He likes it a lot and it feels very soft.
I used the same tension for both. I assume it doesn't matter too much. 1kg higher on the iso sounds reasonable too.Great, good to know. What would you use in tension difference ? I strung Iso 1kg higher than poly mains.
In our city, they don't.Where are you hitting on walls that don't have this? All three I use regularly have at least the standard baseline buffer depth behind them, two because they are aligned with a court.
Good point...who is going to stand there and feed you the 10000 balls it takes to get let say.... the slice backhand become ingrained into your muscle memory .....I hit the wall with great enthusiasm on my practice days and can see the llttle degrees of progress that occur incrementally over time.... The last bit of wisdom I heard from one of the big time coaches was..."Dont bother trying to hit the Federer backhand....it's not possible......Guess what I'm working on now ......I perfected my shots using a wall, one by one. It is possible: learn to hit perpendicular so that the balls comes back to you, it's a good way to practice unit turn. You can hit as soft and as hard as you want, adjust the distance to the wall for that. Have a target or line that mimics the net and hit consistently the same spot. I developed my topspin backhand and volley at the wall, I couldn't have done it otherwise, nobody would have had the patience to feed me hundreds of balls to my backhand. I also practiced a lot of powerful but precise top-spin forehands. A side effect is that now it is super easy to hit balls down the line.
Jimmy Connors spent a lot of time hitting against his garage door. The Intuitive Tennis guy on youtube also just posted a video about things you can do hitting against a wall to improve your game.Not trying to sound rude, but you and your coaches should consider some of the great players that credit the wall with making them so good. McEnroe is the first that comes to mind, but he played with a wooden racquet and a continental grip, in a different era of tennis, right? Well, there is also a certain Novak Djokovic that says the wall is where he honed his skills, so...
It's really not that difficult to do once you practice it a little. I have tons of videos of myself hitting against a wide variety of walls (see below).Do you have to ask?
Try taking a full swing at the ball, it is going to come back fast from the wall.
The only poster I remember here who can do a moderate pace wall practice of more then one shot is @Sir Weed .
This. The wall is free, doesn't get tired or bored, and usually does exactly what you ask it to do (unless it's not a perfect wall). Sure, getting balls fed to you is great, as is getting to see exactly where they land on the other side of the net, but for working on specific things and trying to get some "reps" in, the wall can't be beat.I perfected my shots using a wall, one by one. It is possible: learn to hit perpendicular so that the balls comes back to you, it's a good way to practice unit turn. You can hit as soft and as hard as you want, adjust the distance to the wall for that. Have a target or line that mimics the net and hit consistently the same spot. I developed my topspin backhand and volley at the wall, I couldn't have done it otherwise, nobody would have had the patience to feed me hundreds of balls to my backhand. I also practiced a lot of powerful but precise top-spin forehands. A side effect is that now it is super easy to hit balls down the line.
Wait, what? What city do you live in? You realize that it doesn't have to be a tennis wall, right? You can use racquet ball walls (which are everywhere where I live), or even just plain old walls! Again, I could show you video hitting against a bunch of different walls...In our city, they don't.
Racquet ball courts work but do actually have legitimate concerns with available space.It's really not that difficult to do once you practice it a little. I have tons of videos of myself hitting against a wide variety of walls (see below).
This. The wall is free, doesn't get tired or bored, and usually does exactly what you ask it to do (unless it's not a perfect wall). Sure, getting balls fed to you is great, as is getting to see exactly where they land on the other side of the net, but for working on specific things and trying to get some "reps" in, the wall can't be beat.
Wait, what? What city do you live in? You realize that it doesn't have to be a tennis wall, right? You can use racquet ball walls (which are everywhere where I live), or even just plain old walls! Again, I could show you video hitting against a bunch of different walls...
What are the best Mayami polys?@TennisViking The new Shift 300 (with added weight) is great for me with softer Maymi polies...Check its trhead, as it has power, spin etc.
But some people complained about pains in the elbow and/or wrist (not me, at least not yet after a couple of months of playing with it).
What are the best Mayami polys?
Yeah, Tour Hex.What are the best Mayami polys?
I personally have had such severe TE to the point my MRI showed the tendon was partially torn. I have tried many multis but just could never gel with any of them due to the control and feel. I ended with a solid core syn gut (OG sheep micro) on the mains and poly cross ( cyclone) and it gives me comfort and the best of both worlds. I think a good syn gut is underrated and multis are overrated just MHOI've mainly used poly strings over the years due to the added control/ spin they provided.
For most of that time I did not have any pain, but after I tried the 2018 pure drive a few years ago, my elbow and shoulder have been very sensitive to poly in any racket, and trust me ive tried every poly out there that is reported as being "comfortable".
For some reason even my 93p with a hybrid makes my shoulder sore if I play a few times a few a week.
However, when I use a multi I never get any pain, which I have to accept at this point is the way forwards.
I'd like to hear from some people who are in a similar situation.
Did you just come to terms with the negatives that come along with using multi strings over poly (Break quickly / worse spin)?
Ive tried quite a few multis but none of them give me the confidence of poly.
I went the syn gut route as well, people swear by multis but i´ll keep playing with syn gut for the foreseeable future.I personally have had such severe TE to the point my MRI showed the tendon was partially torn. I have tried many multis but just could never gel with any of them due to the control and feel. I ended with a solid core syn gut (OG sheep micro) on the mains and poly cross ( cyclone) and it gives me comfort and the best of both worlds. I think a good syn gut is underrated and multis are overrated just MHO
Love me some gamma tnt or professional syn gut! I hate the way the high end Multis frayI went the syn gut route as well, people swear by multis but i´ll keep playing with syn gut for the foreseeable future.
That is true, they do have somewhat limited space, but they are still usable. And NYC has them everywhere.Racquet ball courts work but do actually have legitimate concerns with available space.
For some reason in NY they even closed the outdoor parks during the pandemic, so it wasn't even possible to hit alone on a racquetball court. I had to resort to hitting on the sides of buildings.Because of the pandemic I wasn't able to play for almost 9 months, the wall of the squash court was the one that let me hit a ball again.
Triax 1.33 last much longer than 1.28 for me. In my Speed Pro 2022 i could get 20 hours indoor with Triax. Snap back is good for 8-12 hours. I will post how much hours ill get fron MF 1.30 black.@nov how many hours would you say you got? How did the string feel in terms of gripping and biting the ball? I am trying to move away from sharp shaped polys since they hurt my arm but love that grip feel.