Babolat Pure Storm/Pure Control Fan Club

[LocNetMonster]

@LocNetMonster, @KohlschreiberFan, @dsb;
What string and tension are you currently using?

Here's an update to your question: Last week, upon learning about @Shroud Kevlar set up in another thread, I decided to goof around with his tension specs in one of my PST with some of the string I have in stock. I strung the mains at 70# using Tier One's 18g Strike Force RIP in the mains (only after I broke 3 sets of their Firewire, which apparently can't handle tensions over 65#) and the crosses with OGSM 18g syngut at 60#. It was almost love at first crush. I feel like I'm getting more spin, sharper volleys and really nice control for serve placement. I restrung two other sticks with other strings, including today's test with Tier One's Tour Status in the mains at 73# and OGSM at 57# in the crosses, and loving every touch of the ball whether it be ground strokes, volleys or serves and even errors. After about 10 hours of play, there is enough tension loss that I really have to focus on adding a bit more spin and/or shorten my takeback to keep the ball in the court.

 

[Shankadelic]

Won an auction for a Pure Control Team yesterday, making it my third, second 27 incher to the collection. Got it for $47.50 with shipping. Other than one heavily scraped wedge at the top of the hoop, the stick looks to be in grand condition. Should have it next Monday or so.

Not quite the $3.99 Goodwill find that shockmaster stumbled upon but still an outstanding deal for the PCT!! Congrats!! Best I have done is about $30 more than your price. You have piqued my interest to start looking around again as having three PCTs is definitely not enough.

 

[Shankadelic]

Here's an update to your question: Last week, upon learning about @Shroud Kevlar set up in another thread, I decided to goof around with his tension specs in one of my PST with some of the string I have in stock. I strung the mains at 70# using Tier One's 18g Strike Force RIP in the mains (only after I broke 3 sets of their Firewire, which apparently can't handle tensions over 65#) and the crosses with OGSM 18g syngut at 60#. It was almost love at first crush. I feel like I'm getting more spin, sharper volleys and really nice control for serve placement. I restrung two other sticks with other strings, including today's test with Tier One's Tour Status in the mains at 73# and OGSM at 57# in the crosses, and loving every touch of the ball whether it be ground strokes, volleys or serves and even errors. After about 10 hours of play, there is enough tension loss that I really have to focus on adding a bit more spin and/or shorten my takeback to keep the ball in the court.

As tight as you have those strings, no issue with generating power? As you already know, PCT/PST is a very low power racquet.

I would also be interested to know how long it takes for you to pop 18G strung at that tension. With VCT strung at 48#, I can usually get 10-15 matches out of it.

 

[LocNetMonster]

Not quite the $3.99 Goodwill find that shockmaster stumbled upon

Yeah, I know. I don't think anybody is going to beat that one as a retail purchase! That was a darn good deal. But snagging one in decent shape for under $50 with shipping, given what's out there on 'that' site and prices generally $20+ what I paid, I'm still grinning ear to ear.

 

[LocNetMonster]

As tight as you have those strings, no issue with generating power?

The thing you might have missed or don't know is I modify my sticks to something north of 380g to about 399g and keep them very headlight.

As you already know, PCT/PST is a very low power racquet.

I've read that and never understood it really. I never seem to have a problem hitting the ball long I'd beat myself with UFEs until I started adding weight.

I would also be interested to know how long it takes for you to pop 18G strung at that tension. With VCT strung at 48#, I can usually get 10-15 matches out of it.

I will cut them out long before they are even close to breaking. The tension loss is very noticeable to me after about 8 hours of play at least in my multifil/sg hybrid. Serves will drift longer, volleys are not as crisp and the ball tends to leave the racquet more inconsistently on ground strokes. The verdict is still out on the poly/sg version. Would the strings still be playable for a while longer? Sure, but the responsiveness is diminished greatly enough to make playing more challenging. What I've noticed lately is a strong correlation between the freshness of my strings and unforced errors. I tend to make fewer errors with newer string.

At 48# even before modification, PCT/PST are rocket launchers in my hands ... lol ... I don't think I'd have to swing the racquet, just flick my wrist, if I strung that low Before turning them into Frankensticks I played best with synthetic gut at 65# and polys at 62#.

 

[Shankadelic]

The thing you might have missed or don't know is I modify my sticks to something north of 380g to about 399g and keep them very headlight.

That will be the next thing I try, adding some weight like how you have done but via baby steps. Jumping from ~340g right to 380g+ would probably not be the smartest idea on my part.

 

[Shankadelic]

The thing you might have missed or don't know is I modify my sticks to something north of 380g to about 399g and keep them very headlight.

I borrowed a digital scale from a friend, along with his stock of lead tape. One PCT measured 346g/12.2oz while the other came in at 352g/12.4oz. Same strings, grip, OG, and dampener in both. I always felt like the two hit differently but thought it was just a mental thing of switching racquets and the strings being at different tension along with getting them used from different people off the big auction site. I play with one racquet until the string breaks and then switch to the other until it breaks.

351g - I added lead at 10/2 to get it to 358g/12.6oz
346g - I added lead to the whole top half, from 9 all the way around to 3, to get it to 358g/12.6oz

Drilled/played for 2 hours with the tape but need more time with it before making an opinion.

 

[LocNetMonster]

351g - I added lead at 10/2 to get it to 358g/12.6oz
346g - I added lead to the whole top half, from 9 all the way around to 3, to get it to 358g/12.6oz

Drilled/played for 2 hours with the tape but need more time with it before making an opinion.

The only problem I see with your mod is you changed the balance of your racquet and made it more head heavy. If you liked the balanced that you had been playing with before the mod, you should have added half the weight to the hoop and the other half to the handle (inside or out). If you are going up in mass, depending on your swing mechanics, I think you will want to make the stick more head light or maintain the same balance. In my experience, the heavier the stick, the more head light it needs to be to move it quickly. Going head heavy has its advantages, but if you have an aggressive net game, going more head light as the weight increase is better so you can maneuver the racquet better.

 

[SpinToWin]

Found a Pure Storm Ltd + on the bay in my grip size and I am oh so tempted....

 

[LocNetMonster]

I've been sleuthing around for a Pure Storm Tour Plus.
To no avail I'm afraid

I have a Pure Control Tour + I could be tempted to sell.

 

[Shankadelic]

The only problem I see with your mod is you changed the balance of your racquet and made it more head heavy. If you liked the balanced that you had been playing with before the mod, you should have added half the weight to the hoop and the other half to the handle (inside or out). If you are going up in mass, depending on your swing mechanics, I think you will want to make the stick more head light or maintain the same balance. In my experience, the heavier the stick, the more head light it needs to be to move it quickly. Going head heavy has its advantages, but if you have an aggressive net game, going more head light as the weight increase is better so you can maneuver the racquet better.

I was going to add additional OG to offset the weight I put on the hoop but I ran out of OG (poor planning on my part, I know). Will be adding OG before I play next. On the 346g, doubt the OG will weigh enough to bring the balance back to what it was but will give it a shot anyway.

Playing style - definitely more of a baseliner than a S/V or all-court guy

 

[SpinToWin]

I have a Pure Control Tour + I could be tempted to sell.

Damn temptations everywhere

 

[FD3S]

The 2001 incarnation of the PCT was truly a thing of beauty. Move your feet, set up properly, and boom.

 

[Shankadelic]

The bay of E has a PCT sitting at 41 bucks. Time is up at 4:28PM EST today. Not mine but wish it was.

 

[topspn]

My new old stock Pure Storm Tour GTs

 

[haqq777]

My new old stock Pure Storm Tour GTs

Yay they reached! And they look fantastic! What strings? The stencil looks nice too.

 

[haqq777]

My Pure Storm Tours. I am thinking about something soft and round for strings.

Hey @topspn how come mine have the grey paint in the bridge part? I know mine are the Tour GT 2009. Are yours newer? I know they had a cosmetic update after 2009 once before they switched back to Pure Controls.

 

[topspn]

Yay they reached! And they look fantastic! What strings? The stencil looks nice too.

Aha, just arrived today finally. I think string is Bab xcel but one of them already at the stringer for a full bed of square-x

 

[topspn]

My Pure Storm Tours. I am thinking about something soft and round for strings.

Hey @topspn how come mine have the grey paint in the bridge part? I know mine are the Tour GT 2009. Are yours newer? I know they had a cosmetic update after 2009 once before they switched back to Pure Controls.

Yeah, both are the same GT versions and mine was the last PJ before they moved to PC

 

[haqq777]

Yeah, both are the same GT versions and mine was the last PJ before they moved to PC

Yeah, I had a feeling that was the case. The Tour GT 2009 was also different from regular GT 2009 (non Tour) because the regular version had black paint on the bridge and Tour version had grey.

If I recall I think your 2012 Tour GT had black paint on hoop from 10-2, and normal 2012 GT (non Tour) had grey paint. Will double check.

 

[topspn]

Yeah, I had a feeling that was the case. The Tour GT 2009 was also different from regular GT 2009 (non Tour) because the regular version had black paint on the bridge and Tour version had grey.

If I recall I think your 2012 Tour GT had black paint on hoop from 10-2, and normal 2012 GT (non Tour) had grey paint. Will double check.

Yep, you’re correct!

 

[stephenclown]

My Pure Storm Tours. I am thinking about something soft and round for strings.

Hey @topspn how come mine have the grey paint in the bridge part? I know mine are the Tour GT 2009. Are yours newer? I know they had a cosmetic update after 2009 once before they switched back to Pure Controls.

Those look so sweet. Have you hit with them yet? Looking for a comparison to your Prince 93P haha

Such beautiful frames from Babolat, so sad that they ruined the feel of the line with stiffness after the Pure Control.

 

[haqq777]

Those look so sweet. Have you hit with them yet? Looking for a comparison to your Prince 93P haha

Such beautiful frames from Babolat, so sad that they ruined the feel of the line with stiffness after the Pure Control.

Haha, completely different feeling/playing racquet than 93P, in all honesty. PSTGT play crisper, more powerful and hammer the ball. The P93 is more for finesse and feel

I actually have two swirly Pure Control Teams (team were tours back then in PC line) circa 2001 and they are absolutely amazing. I had them custom painted, they are such keepers. You will find a vast majority loving the earlier Pure Controls - and for good reason. They were beasts. I mean 335 stock strung swing weight obliterates.

I do def agree, the last gen of Pure Controls (when they discontinued Pure Storms and tried to bring Pure Controls back before discontinuing the entire line) was terrible. Last gen PC were hollow feeling, lighter swing weight as well and just didn't have that wow factor PSTGT and earlier PCT had.

 

[teekaywhy]

Pure Storm LTD is in the category as the original Pro One from Donnay in my opinion. Revered for sublime feel and playability. Did zero to help out in terms of power but still awesome.

 

[Faris]

Haha, completely different feeling/playing racquet than 93P, in all honesty. PSTGT play crisper, more powerful and hammer the ball. The P93 is more for finesse and feel

I actually have two swirly Pure Control Teams (team were tours back then in PC line) circa 2001 and they are absolutely amazing. I had them custom painted, they are such keepers. You will find a vast majority loving the earlier Pure Controls - and for good reason. They were beasts. I mean 335 stock strung swing weight obliterates.

I do def agree, the last gen of Pure Controls (when they discontinued Pure Storms and tried to bring Pure Controls back before discontinuing the entire line) was terrible. Last gen PC were hollow feeling, lighter swing weight as well and just didn't have that wow factor PSTGT and earlier PCT had.

thanks for the informative post..was the pure storm tour GT you have the first pure storm that came out?

 

[stephenclown]

Haha, completely different feeling/playing racquet than 93P, in all honesty. PSTGT play crisper, more powerful and hammer the ball. The P93 is more for finesse and feel

I actually have two swirly Pure Control Teams (team were tours back then in PC line) circa 2001 and they are absolutely amazing. I had them custom painted, they are such keepers. You will find a vast majority loving the earlier Pure Controls - and for good reason. They were beasts. I mean 335 stock strung swing weight obliterates.

I do def agree, the last gen of Pure Controls (when they discontinued Pure Storms and tried to bring Pure Controls back before discontinuing the entire line) was terrible. Last gen PC were hollow feeling, lighter swing weight as well and just didn't have that wow factor PSTGT and earlier PCT had.

Thanks! I forgot there was so much difference between the other Pure Storm lines with my Pure Storm Limited - 95 18x20 zero power high 50s RA - compared to 16x20 98 higher RA. I guess this would be more similar to the Prince 93P as @teekaywhy noted, sublime feel and playability. If I could get 2-3 matching PSLs I may have just gone with them, but only 1 shop selling on the bay and seems to be only 1 in L2. This has sort of made me settle on the 93P haha

 

[haqq777]

thanks for the informative post..was the pure storm tour GT you have the first pure storm that came out?

Well, it is a little complicated. The first Pure Storm Tour actually came out in 2007 and replaced the Pure Control Team. It had Carbon Xtreme. The Pure Storm Tour GT came after it.

That said, the Pure Storm Team (lighter Pure Control) and Pure Storm Team MP (103sq in) versions of Pure Storm were a parallel offering with earlier Pure Control series since 2005.

 

[stephenclown]

thanks for the informative post..was the pure storm tour GT you have the first pure storm that came out?

I think Haqq's is 2nd or 3rd gen? The pure storm limited (orange and black) was the limited model of the Pure Storm Tour black and red version, both in 2008.

GT was their 2009 addition/naming of the frames

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/BPSTT/BPSTTReview.html

 

[haqq777]

Thanks! I forgot there was so much difference between the other Pure Storm lines with my Pure Storm Limited - 95 18x20 zero power high 50s RA - compared to 16x20 98 higher RA. I guess this would be more similar to the Prince 93P as @teekaywhy noted, sublime feel and playability. If I could get 2-3 matching PSLs I may have just gone with them, but only 1 shop selling on the bay and seems to be only 1 in L2. This has sort of made me settle on the 93P haha

Ah yes, the PS LTD is a completely different racquet/mold. Softer, more control oriented, much lower swing weight and supremely anemic. True players stick. The GT versions of LTD are so much better than Carbon Xtreme versions too, just like other Pure Storm options (Carbon Xtreme were low sixties RA and played harsh). Good luck, those are great racquets. Try fleabay, @topspn had some good luck with new ones. Maybe you might get lucky.

 

[haqq777]

I think Haqq's is 2nd or 3rd gen? The pure storm limited (orange and black) was the limited model of the Pure Storm Tour black and red version, both in 2008.

GT was their 2009 addition/naming of the frames

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/BPSTT/BPSTTReview.html

Mine is the second gen Pure Storm Tour (the GT one). The Tour had grey paint on bridge. Regular non tour had black paint.

The first Pure Storm Tour actually came out in 2007 and replaced the Pure Control Team. It's the one pictured in your link. It had Carbon Xtreme. The Pure Storm Tour GT came after it.

Topspin's is final (third) generation Pure Storm Tour (after mine). Exact same specs as mine except slightly different PJ. After his, they discontinued Pure Storms and brought back the crappy gen of Pure Controls before discontinuing the PC line.

 

[Faris]

Well, it is a little complicated. The first Pure Storm Tour actually came out in 2007 and replaced the Pure Control Team. It had Carbon Xtreme. The Pure Storm Tour GT came after it.

That said, the Pure Storm Team (lighter Pure Control) and Pure Storm Team MP (103sq in) versions of Pure Storm were a parallel offering with earlier Pure Control series since 2005.

I think Haqq's is 2nd or 3rd gen? The pure storm limited (orange and black) was the limited model of the Pure Storm Tour black and red version, both in 2008.

GT was their 2009 addition/naming of the frames

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/BPSTT/BPSTTReview.html

thanks guyz..man I saw topspins and haqq's pictures and they looked same to me. Man u guys have eagle eyes! Beautiful looking frames....

i know the limited ones too, those were great too but were low powered...agree with haqq in tht GT version were far better in all iterations of pure storms really...

 

[Faris]

Thanks! I forgot there was so much difference between the other Pure Storm lines with my Pure Storm Limited - 95 18x20 zero power high 50s RA - compared to 16x20 98 higher RA. I guess this would be more similar to the Prince 93P as @teekaywhy noted, sublime feel and playability. If I could get 2-3 matching PSLs I may have just gone with them, but only 1 shop selling on the bay and seems to be only 1 in L2. This has sort of made me settle on the 93P haha

I gotta tell you though Stephen, 93P is a terrific racquet and better than Limited if you are looking for control and feel type players stick. Much more easy to play with too...i will def recommend you get 93P n check it out!

 

[topspn]

Mine is the second gen Pure Storm Tour (the GT one). The Tour had grey paint on bridge. Regular non tour had black paint.

The first Pure Storm Tour actually came out in 2007 and replaced the Pure Control Team. It's the one pictured in your link. It had Carbon Xtreme. The Pure Storm Tour GT came after it.

Topspin's is final (third) generation Pure Storm Tour (after mine). Exact same specs as mine except slightly different PJ. After his, they discontinued Pure Storms and brought back the crappy gen of Pure Controls before discontinuing the PC line.

That is exactly correct! You are a man who knows their Pure Storms IMHO PSTGT is probably the best frame Babolat ever made. I am itching to go out hit with mine and considering buying another to make them three

 

[haqq777]

That is exactly correct! You are a man who knows their Pure Storms IMHO PSTGT is probably the best frame Babolat ever made. I am itching to go out hit with mine and considering buying another to make them three

lol thanks! And I am all for getting another one because I think they are awesome sticks too! I am really curious how square-x string plays for you so definitely let us know. I was going to put shaped string in one and round profile in my other and compare. But unfortunately I am nursing a grade II ankle sprain so out for 4 more weeks

 

[topspn]

lol thanks! And I am all for getting another one because I think they are awesome sticks too! I am really curious how square-x string plays for you so definitely let us know. I was going to put shaped string in one and round profile in my other and compare. But unfortunately I am nursing a grade II ankle sprain so out for 4 more weeks

Ouch, get better! Yep, I’ll let you know what I think of the string setup

 

[stephenclown]

I gotta tell you though Stephen, 93P is a terrific racquet and better than Limited if you are looking for control and feel type players stick. Much more easy to play with too...i will def recommend you get 93P n check it out!

Wow it must be a beast then, more control and feel? Thank you for the comparison, its interesting how some companies stay true to their base and others ignore it. True that the PSL was insanely demanding, and I am 10-15kg heavier than when I used to play it competitively... It was unparalleled blend for me, topspin was top notch with incredibly penetrating balls, slice was consistently flat and at the net it was sublime. Others struggled with the power but I loved it haha. 19mm constant beam on the PSL but the 16-20mm on the Prince 93P should be good !

 

[teekaywhy]

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[LocNetMonster]

You will find a vast majority loving the earlier Pure Controls - and for good reason. They were beasts. I mean 335 stock strung swing weight obliterates.

I have 4 PCT of which one is a plus, all weighted up to a static something at either 12.6 or 12.9. With Kevlar mains, the PCT make a nice "boom" on ball contact.

 

[haqq777]

I have 4 PCT of which one is a plus, all weighted up to a static something at either 12.6 or 12.9. With Kevlar mains, the PCT make a nice "boom" on ball contact.

 

[haqq777]

Got my third one in today. Had to hit the trifecta.

I am very amazed by the excellent QC of Babolat PSTGT. All three are within 2 grams and 2mm of balance (strung). I have checked strung specs of other two as well as I played with them regularly for a long while.

The latest acquisition is the one which is on the right and is the only strung one in the picture. Strings are Prince Synthetic Gut With Duraflex. Tension is 60lbs I am told. Have not hit with it yet but I know it will play very different than what I am used to (soft polys at 45-48lbs range). Will give it a go and report back.

 

[LocNetMonster]

People selling used ones on that auction site must be peeping this thread. Overall, prices for PC/PS are selling for $30-50 more then they were a year or so ago.

 

[LocNetMonster]

You know one of the things that make the PC/PS great? IMHO it is their grommet woofer system and the way it maintains tension in the center 8 mains. I've been using the same Kevlar mains for 5 months and I'm amazed by the consistency it provides every time I use it.

 

[Shankadelic]

You know one of the things that make the PC/PS great? IMHO it is their grommet woofer system and the way it maintains tension in the center 8 mains. I've been using the same Kevlar mains for 5 months and I'm amazed by the consistency it provides every time I use it.

What is your string setup when using Kevlar?

 

[topspn]

Got my third one in today. Had to hit the trifecta.

I am very amazed by the excellent QC of Babolat PSTGT. All three are within 2 grams and 2mm of balance (strung). I have checked strung specs of other two as well as I played with them regularly for a long while.

The latest acquisition is the one which is on the right and is the only strung one in the picture. Strings are Prince Synthetic Gut With Duraflex. Tension is 60lbs I am told. Have not hit with it yet but I know it will play very different than what I am used to (soft polys at 45-48lbs range). Will give it a go and report back.

They all look in nice shape! What poly have you enjoyed most in them? I have strung mine with quadro twist @50lbs and feels decent but slightly mushy in this frame. Also, have you looked for grommets yet? I’d like to get a few for future need

 

[haqq777]

They all look in nice shape! What poly have you enjoyed most in them? I have strung mine with quadro twist @50lbs and feels decent but slightly mushy in this frame. Also, have you looked for grommets yet? I’d like to get a few for future need

Yeah the last one I got has a few scrapes and a couple of small chips at hoop. The other two are in pristine shape. I like to keep my equipment clean, very OCD lol.

For tension, I had Tourbite at 50lbs. Cyclone was crisper at same tension but I liked it as well. Didn't feel mushiness in fact I felt that I could go looser since it's a 16x20 and 98sq unlike my TC100 which is more open and bigger head. The Storms had great control, I could flatten out with so much ease. I have not played due to my grade II ankle sprain recently, but plan on trying a bunch of strings in a few weeks when I can get back on court. What's your feedback so far? Tried anything besides Quadro Twist? I will try higher and lower than 50lbs and let you know how I like polys, for sure.

For grommets, TW has them. Here is the link:

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_Grommets/catpage-GROMBABOLAT.html

You want the 14th one from top (Babolat Pure Control/+/Tour/+/Storm/Zyln/GT Grom). Same mold for controls/storms as long as it's not the 95sq inch LTD version. I have changed grommets and they fit great. Pain to install but that is how it is with all Babolat woofer grommets, lol.

 

[bkfinch]

Can anyone give a little description of the various gens of Pure Control/Storm?

I like the way the Pure Strike VS hits but it feels like awful plastic even with lot of weight. Kevlar mains makes the feel more solid but I feel I lose touch and pocketing.

Looking to see if any prior gens have a better feel. The PS GT can still be found from time to time more easy than original PC..

Thanks guys [emoji120]


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[haqq777]

Can anyone give a little description of the various gens of Pure Control/Storm?

I like the way the Pure Strike VS hits but it feels like awful plastic even with lot of weight. Kevlar mains makes the feel more solid but I feel I lose touch and pocketing.

Looking to see if any prior gens have a better feel. The PS GT can still be found from time to time more easy than original PC..

Thanks guys [emoji120]


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Pure Strike VS is basically the continuation of the very last generation of Pure Control line - which although subjective - is considered to be the worst generation of Pure Control/Storm line. I am not a fan of that generation. It felt hollow and lacked that connected feel (which is exactly what you are experiencing with Pure Strike VS).

If you like softer and flexier feeling sticks, I would recommend go for Pure Storms (GT versions are best). They have ample swing weight and great plow. If you like crisper and somewhat stiffer feeling, go for earlier Pure Controls (2nd and 3rd gen) - although they are very very hard to find in good shape. Those were beasts and could obliterate the ball. I have two of swirly Teams (2nd gen PCT) and they absolutely destroy the ball. Love them.

Hope that helps!

 

[topspn]

Yeah the last one I got has a few scrapes and a couple of small chips at hoop. The other two are in pristine shape. I like to keep my equipment clean, very OCD lol.

For tension, I had Tourbite at 50lbs. Cyclone was crisper at same tension but I liked it as well. Didn't feel mushiness in fact I felt that I could go looser since it's a 16x20 and 98sq unlike my TC100 which is more open and bigger head. The Storms had great control, I could flatten out with so much ease. I have not played due to my grade II ankle sprain recently, but plan on trying a bunch of strings in a few weeks when I can get back on court. What's your feedback so far? Tried anything besides Quadro Twist? I will try higher and lower than 50lbs and let you know how I like polys, for sure.

For grommets, TW has them. Here is the link:

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_Grommets/catpage-GROMBABOLAT.html

You want the 14th one from top (Babolat Pure Control/+/Tour/+/Storm/Zyln/GT Grom). Same mold for controls/storms as long as it's not the 95sq inch LTD version. I have changed grommets and they fit great. Pain to install but that is how it is with all Babolat woofer grommets, lol.

Yeah, quadro twist may not be best fit so will see. It is ok on ground strokes but would like more feel on serves and volleys. I might try TB or have a few packs of hyper-g, revolve and PL evolution. It still hammers the ball like i remember, just looking for a string combo that feels more connected. Yeah, thanks I wasn’t sure about what I saw on TW so had ordered from ******* sports since they had specific grommets for PSGT which fit perfectly for my tours. Should probably collect a few before they are out of circulation

 

[bkfinch]

Pure Strike VS is basically the continuation of the very last generation of Pure Control line - which although subjective - is considered to be the worst generation of Pure Control/Storm line. I am not a fan of that generation. It felt hollow and lacked that connected feel (which is exactly what you are experiencing with Pure Strike VS).

If you like softer and flexier feeling sticks, I would recommend go for Pure Storms (GT versions are best). They have ample swing weight and great plow. If you like crisper and somewhat stiffer feeling, go for earlier Pure Controls (2nd and 3rd gen) - although they are very very hard to find in good shape. Those were beasts and could obliterate the ball. I have two of swirly Teams (2nd gen PCT) and they absolutely destroy the ball. Love them.

Hope that helps!

Yes! Thank you!


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[dsb]

Pure Strike VS is basically the continuation of the very last generation of Pure Control line - which although subjective - is considered to be the worst generation of Pure Control/Storm line. I am not a fan of that generation. It felt hollow and lacked that connected feel (which is exactly what you are experiencing with Pure Strike VS).

If you like softer and flexier feeling sticks, I would recommend go for Pure Storms (GT versions are best). They have ample swing weight and great plow. If you like crisper and somewhat stiffer feeling, go for earlier Pure Controls (2nd and 3rd gen) - although they are very very hard to find in good shape. Those were beasts and could obliterate the ball. I have two of swirly Teams (2nd gen PCT) and they absolutely destroy the ball. Love them.

Hope that helps!

Keep in mind that the Storm Ltd/ Control 95 is a different racquet... 58 RA, 95sq.in., 18x20 ... and they all have a very solid, old school kind of feel to them IMHO.