because just what happened ..nadal won't winUSO

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

So another year where Nadal heads to the US Open overplayed:twisted::twisted::twisted:

Don't say I didn't call it because I did.

Now 5 matches here in Toronto..
Now he will kill himself in Cinncy (another 5 or 6 matches)
Then the lemmings presented first few rounds of US OPen.

The a fringing minimum 15 friging matches before the business end of USO.

Question> Does Uncle Toni ever Learn?

 

[vortex1]

2 masters events is "overplayed"?

 

[The-Champ]

So another year where Nadal heads to the US Open overplayed:twisted::twisted::twisted:

Don't say I didn't call it because I did.

Now 5 matches here in Toronto..
Now he will kill himself in Cinncy (another 5 or 6 matches)
Then the lemmings presented first few rounds of US OPen.

The a fringing minimum 15 friging matches before the business end of USO.

Question> Does Uncle Toni ever Learn?

not if he bows in the second round

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

2 masters events is "overplayed"?

He's injured, and yes..2 masters is overplayed ..FACT.

AUSSIE 09 nomasters lead up WINS
wimby 08 no masters leadup WINS
wimby 2010 ..crap prep WINS

allUS OPENS = plays 2 masters lead up = always loses

comprehende?

I said from the begining nadal should skip one of the two masters series .

Now another tired rafa at US Open...he played way more matches than most on the tour.

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

not if he bows in the second round

Believe me..I'm praying for that

 

[vortex1]

He's injured, and yes..2 masters is overplayed ..FACT.

AUSSIE 09 nomasters lead up WINS
wimby 08 no masters leadup WINS
wimby 2010 ..crap prep WINS

allUS OPENS = plays 2 masters lead up = always loses

comprehende?

I said from the begining nadal should skip one of the two masters series .

Now another tired rafa at US Open...he played way more matches than most on the tour.

You forgot:

RG 2010
3 masters in a row and wins

 

[ballboy48]

You forgot:

RG 2010
3 masters in a row and wins

Clay is not a real surface, grandmas can play on it. HC is a man's surface.

 

[The-Champ]

Believe me..I'm praying for that

I hope he loses Feliciano has proven he can beat Rafa. Here's hoping for a Lopez win.

 

[vortex1]

Clay is not a real surface, grandmas can play on it. HC is a man's surface.

Clay is more physically demanding, and OP's point was that he'll get tired. He was fine after 3 masters in a row, he'll be fine after 2 here. He still needs more matches because of rust.

 

[drakulie]

maybe nadal should take next year off and just show up at the us open. Perhaps play a couple local 3.5 tournaments to warm-up and get into match shape. :roll:

 

[luvly]

So another year where Nadal heads to the US Open overplayed:twisted::twisted::twisted:

Don't say I didn't call it because I did.

Now 5 matches here in Toronto..
Now he will kill himself in Cinncy (another 5 or 6 matches)
Then the lemmings presented first few rounds of US OPen.

The a fringing minimum 15 friging matches before the business end of USO.

Question> Does Uncle Toni ever Learn?

give it a rest and stop trying to imply that a world class athlete is tired after playing two events and then getting a week off this is what he trains for...its what they all train for.

just stop and accept that fact the he loses sometimes it happens to everyone no player ever has gone undefeated so it doesnt make him an awful player that he loses matches....come on the way some people go on and on about these players getting tired is just sad.

so many whiny fans he played a three hour match and the other guy only played an hour he is gonna be so tired....no his isnt and if he is thats his fault for letting the match go three hours.


omg he played to events in a row he might fall a part just shut up please. you make me really sad to be a tennis fan.

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

You forgot:

RG 2010
3 masters in a row and wins

you forgot,

Rafa could played 1000 matches on clay..won't hurt his knees.
even playing one clay MS he would still win RG...he plays those events because he needs to gain at least some points outside the slams.
Clay is rafa's best events
Most opponents are crushed in straights on clay..barely a work out for him.
but yeah..i wish he would only play two masters in the lead up:twisted:

all those clay court masters..are the very reason he should relax a little this time of the year.

Roddick skips at least 2 clay masters in the lead up to RG BTW

 

[svijk]

this is a fail thread...OP you better be the chick in the pic else there isn't anything interesting about this thread

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

give it a rest and stop trying to imply that a world class athlete is tired after playing two events and then getting a week off this is what he trains for...its what they all train for.

just stop and accept that fact the he loses sometimes it happens to everyone no player ever has gone undefeated so it doesnt make him an awful player that he loses matches....come on the way some people go on and on about these players getting tired is just sad.

so many whiny fans he played a three hour match and the other guy only played an hour he is gonna be so tired....no his isnt and if he is thats his fault for letting the match go three hours.


omg he played to events in a row he might fall a part just shut up please. you make me really sad to be a tennis fan.

LOL so much calculations on my ""whinyness""

All I ever said was skip cinncy or toronto....either one will do.

I say that and suddenly I'm getting flamed LOL

Roddick skips clay series galore, top players skipping fall ms...just skip one of these MS..overplay problem solved.
And I guess you think nadal never had a knee issue in his career right?

 

[abmk]

He's injured, and yes..2 masters is overplayed ..FACT.

AUSSIE 09 nomasters lead up WINS
wimby 08 no masters leadup WINS
wimby 2010 ..crap prep WINS

allUS OPENS = plays 2 masters lead up = always loses

comprehende?

I said from the begining nadal should skip one of the two masters series .

Now another tired rafa at US Open...he played way more matches than most on the tour.

firstly, he's played 4, not 5 matches...

secondly, he played queens before wimby 2008 and won there , there is no masters series on grass, so that's a fail

thirdly ,aussie 2009 , there is no masters series before the Aussie Open, he played exhos ( 3 of them I think - davydenko, sod and murray ) and then 3 matches in doha ( losing to monfils ) ... that's 6 matches

this thread has fail written all over it

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

this is a fail thread...OP you better be the chick in the pic else there isn't anything interesting about this thread

I don't understand why people don't agree with me on skipping toronto or cinncy..it seems totally logical.
I would have thought this is a huge issue>

#rafa is current number 1
# previous US Opens he's complained of tiredness injury
# attempt to solve above.

I'll go ahead and make this thread interesting...Maybe North Americans would be pissed if Nadal skipped/tanked one of their MS events , no?

Yet logically Nadal should skip to be fresh for the US OPen..that' the whole point of my post.

 

[JoelDali]

Fearest thou, Delpo?

 

[egn]

So another year where Nadal heads to the US Open overplayed:twisted::twisted::twisted:

Don't say I didn't call it because I did.

Now 5 matches here in Toronto..
Now he will kill himself in Cinncy (another 5 or 6 matches)
Then the lemmings presented first few rounds of US OPen.

The a fringing minimum 15 friging matches before the business end of USO.

Question> Does Uncle Toni ever Learn?

If two master series is overplayed Nadal should quit tennis.

He's injured, and yes..2 masters is overplayed ..FACT.

AUSSIE 09 nomasters lead up WINS
wimby 08 no masters leadup WINS
wimby 2010 ..crap prep WINS

allUS OPENS = plays 2 masters lead up = always loses

comprehende?

I said from the begining nadal should skip one of the two masters series .

Now another tired rafa at US Open...he played way more matches than most on the tour.

So the fact that everyone else plays these two master series doesn't mean anything. Fed had some years clocked tons of more matches going into the summer and still won the US Open. If Nadal feels he needs to skip them he will but don't give me the he is "tired excuse". Sorry that a professional tennis player can't play a month of tennis in a row.

Stupid analogies as well there are no master series before those events so it really has nothing to do with it. Every year he plays 5 master series prior to RG usually if not 4 (including the HC ones) and wins. Not to mention in 08 he had played 3 clay court master series the FO and Queens prior to wimbledon and won it.

you forgot,

Rafa could played 1000 matches on clay..won't hurt his knees.
even playing one clay MS he would still win RG...he plays those events because he needs to gain at least some points outside the slams.
Clay is rafa's best events
Most opponents are crushed in straights on clay..barely a work out for him.
but yeah..i wish he would only play two masters in the lead up:twisted:

all those clay court masters..are the very reason he should relax a little this time of the year.

Roddick skips at least 2 clay masters in the lead up to RG BTW

Roddick sips two clay court master series because he sucks on the surface, sees no reason in wasting his time on a surface that he rarely does well on and would rather spend time with his hot wife as of late and attempting to win that wimbledon.

 

[drakulie]

firstly, he's played 4, not 5 matches...

secondly, he played queens before wimby 2008 and won there , there is no masters series on grass, so that's a fail

thirdly ,aussie 2009 , there is no masters series before the Aussie Open, he played exhos ( 3 of them I think - davydenko, sod and murray ) and then 3 matches in doha ( losing to monfils ) ... that's 6 matches

this thread has fail written all over it

This sums it up:

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

firstly, he's played 4, not 5 matches...

secondly, he played queens before wimby 2008 and won there , there is no masters series on grass, so that's a fail

thirdly ,aussie 2009 , there is no masters series before the Aussie Open, he played exhos ( 3 of them I think - davydenko, sod and murray ) and then 3 matches in doha ( losing to monfils ) ... that's 6 matches

this thread has fail written all over it

Of course I know there's no masters before AO or Wimby....I just pointing out
how unecessary it is to play two masters before a slam...nadal doesn't need heaps of matches...try defeating that argument.

 

[drakulie]

nadal doesn't need heaps of matches...try defeating that argument.

Like I said,,,,, he should just skip the entire 2011 season, and show up to the US Open with a couple of 3.5 local tournaments under his belt. :roll:

 

[Serendipitous]

The above poster is most likely male.

 

[abmk]

Of course I know there's no masters before AO or Wimby....I just pointing out
how unecessary it is to play two masters before a slam...nadal doesn't need heaps of matches...try defeating that argument.

tons of players play 2 master series before the slam ... roddick and rafter have even won the treble of canada masters/cincy/USO

coming to nadal, he's not striking the ball as cleanly as he'd like it, shanking too much ... so I think another 2-3 matches should do him good , perhaps he ought to cut down on practice a little bit instead of cutting down on matches ?

 

[luvly]

LOL so much calculations on my ""whinyness""

All I ever said was skip cinncy or toronto....either one will do.

I say that and suddenly I'm getting flamed LOL

Roddick skips clay series galore, top players skipping fall ms...just skip one of these MS..overplay problem solved.
And I guess you think nadal never had a knee issue in his career right?

first my comments were directed at a lot of people. i just read a comment in the federer thread that he would be tired tomorrow so it was never just about nadal. i said the same exact thing when someone tried to say that super Saturday left players tired so get that out of your mind.

secondly i honestly believe that roddick skipped MC because he was celebrating his wedding anniversary, plus he wasnt going to pick up any points and didnt have any to defend.

nadal has a lot of points to defend QF and SF, he might have a big lead now but he needs these points come next year. just ask fed how nice a few extra rounds at one of the earlier masters would have been or even a few extra points from the end of last year...he would have kept his number 1 ranking long enough to break the record. you never know what will happen so if he is playing ok now and can pick up or defend some points why not.

knee problem or no knee problem the uso is always going to be difficult for nadal he doesnt have the game for it and there a lot of people who can beat him regardless if you want to believe it or not.


secondly if he really is tired going in to the uso or end of the season every year he needs to reevaluate some things at the beginning of the season. he is not the first player to do well during the clay and grass season and he wont be the last...

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

maybe nadal should take next year off and just show up at the us open. Perhaps play a couple local 3.5 tournaments to warm-up and get into match shape. :roll:

Thanks Drak, and no I don't take myself to seriously either, it's all in fun...but your getting close to the perfect year though.

play 1 MS before US OPen....so does that statement make this a thread fail?
just LOL if it does.

 

[ballboy48]

Clay is more physically demanding, and OP's point was that he'll get tired. He was fine after 3 masters in a row, he'll be fine after 2 here. He still needs more matches because of rust.

3 Masters on clay are a lot kinder to knees than masters on HC.

 

[drakulie]

Thanks Drak, and no I don't take myself to seriously either, it's all in fun...but your getting close to the perfect year though.

play 1 MS before US OPen....so does that statement make this a thread fail?
just LOL if it does.

Here, maybe this will cheer you up: (Federer signing your post)

 

[luvly]

I don't understand why people don't agree with me on skipping toronto or cinncy..it seems totally logical.
I would have thought this is a huge issue>

#rafa is current number 1
# previous US Opens he's complained of tiredness injury
# attempt to solve above.

I'll go ahead and make this thread interesting...Maybe North Americans would be pissed if Nadal skipped/tanked one of their MS events , no?

Yet logically Nadal should skip to be fresh for the US OPen..that' the whole point of my post.

if he truly is that tired going into the uso, skipping a masters isnt really going to solve his problem.

 

[svijk]

OP, maybe Nadal will try your suggestion next year so be patient, but seriously there is nothing better than playing 2 strong events b4 a slam. Nadal didn't lose because of his knee, he got outplayed

 

[cork_screw]

Why do we have posters like this? Just because someone loses to someone doesn't mean that's the way things are set long term. Look at Fed, he had a horrible hard court season with sony Ericsson and indian wells, earlier this spring but he's in the finals tomorrow and still playing good hard court tennis. Why is it that tennis talk reminds me of high school where people think in trends where things are at the moment feel like that's the way they'll be forever. Things change. A lot of posters don't realize that. Nadal has a great chance to win USO. I still hope fed wins though, his years are winding down and then Nadal, murray and djokovic can have all the gs they want.

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

tons of players play 2 master series before the slam ... roddick and rafter have even won the treble of canada masters/cincy/USO

coming to nadal, he's not striking the ball as cleanly as he'd like it, shanking too much ... so I think another 2-3 matches should do him good , perhaps he ought to cut down on practice a little bit instead of cutting down on matches ?

Hi Abmk, Rafter 98 effort and Roddick 03 effort were excellent but both were in great shape that summer eg not injured..and basically had a holiday in the clay season...what did rafter do of note prior to that in 98..It was a disappointing year up unitl that point with only a win in india.
my point is nadal needs to take a rest at some point and will get warm-up games ealy rounds of US Open.

Actually..I would would expect...the best reply so far...maybe cuttign down on practice is that answer...if rafa cuts heaps down on prcatice...two ms might be a good idea.

 

[Chopin]

If one were rooting against Nadal, they should be pleased by a tournament like this (Nadal goes deep but gets outplayed). One would hope for the same result in the next Masters, which would make it very unlikely for Nadal to have the momentum needed to break through at the Open.

 

[abmk]

Hi Abmk, Rafter 98 effort and Roddick 03 effort were excellent but both were in great shape that summer eg not injured..and basically had a holiday in the clay season...what did rafter do of note prior to that in 98..It was a disappointing year up unitl that point with only a win in india.
my point is nadal needs to take a rest at some point and will get warm-up games ealy rounds of US Open.

Actually..I would would expect...the best reply so far...maybe cuttign down on practice is that answer...if rafa cuts heaps down on prcatice...two ms might be a good idea.

and what if he runs into a hot player early on @ the USO ?

remember haase and petzschener at wimby ??? and that was on rafa's 2nd best surface ...

 

[single_handed_champion]

Its blatantly obvious he is rather rusty (surprising given it isn't that long a break). If you think 2 matches where he has committed 20+ errors in sets are indicative of him at his best, then. Murray wasn't even playing that well today, and Rafa just couldn't play well on the big points, very uncharacteristic.

At this time of the year, he doesn't need to win multiple tournies leading into the USO, he did it previously and it didn't work out for him. He should be in good form at the Open, hopefully.

 

[JennyS]

Nadal was on a hot streak leading up to 7 of his 8 Slam wins.

He won 3 claycourt tournaments prior to each French Open win (Barcelona and two Masters in 2005-2008 and all three Masters this year)

His two Wimbledon wins came right on the heals of winning the French Open.

The Aussie Open last year was the only time he was "cold" when he won a Slam (having made no finals for almost 6 months).

 

[egn]

Wait did OP just say Nadal is still injuried. Man alive Nadal wins longest injury ever it started when he popped out the womb and still hasn't ended to this date. Cheers for Rafa!

 

[Tennis_Monk]

Clay is not a real surface, grandmas can play on it. HC is a man's surface.

SAMpras , McEnroe, etc should have asked their grandma's to play it instead of them.

 

[Jchurch]

you forgot,

Rafa could played 1000 matches on clay..won't hurt his knees.
even playing one clay MS he would still win RG...he plays those events because he needs to gain at least some points outside the slams.
Clay is rafa's best events
Most opponents are crushed in straights on clay..barely a work out for him.
but yeah..i wish he would only play two masters in the lead up:twisted:

all those clay court masters..are the very reason he should relax a little this time of the year.

Roddick skips at least 2 clay masters in the lead up to RG BTW

Proof that Soderling blasted him off the court!

Vamos to the 12th power!

 

[okdude1992]

what an unbelievable fail. nadal is surely not injured. he's just a little rusty. look for him to make the the semis again at the USO.

stop making stupid excuses ya troll!

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

what an unbelievable fail. nadal is surely not injured. he's just a little rusty. look for him to make the the semis again at the USO.

stop making stupid excuses ya troll!

Well i didn't say he was injured..but to the point>

I just don't want nadal killing himself..and his knees..in the lead up.
The US Open finals are still 4 weeks away..that's still time to hone your game etc...nadal has reached the semis here after a semi-lay-off...so that shows seriously fast improvement...in two weeks time he'll be ready...

In fact I'm actually doing the whole of TW a favor here.

If nadal goes out relatively early in cinncy..eg 3rd or q..he can't complain
about tiredness/injury at USO...no excuses this time. thus we can debate properly the results of US Open.

and yes..he will be given 4 lemmings at US Open...those that can hurt him are all ranked top 8 apart from roddick whos got mono..maybe tsonga..

Let's say he kills himself in cinncy next week in wins.

the same old "rafa played heaps this year" argument will come up when he beaten in the semis at the US Open....

 

[jigar]

Clay is not a real surface, grandmas can play on it. HC is a man's surface.

You cracked me up really hard.. LMAO..literally

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

Like I said,,,,, he should just skip the entire 2011 season, and show up to the US Open with a couple of 3.5 local tournaments under his belt. :roll:

Well tht's my function..I come on this board every two months and say either

nadal should skip tourny X or..
nadal should tank tourny Y ..hence the sarcasm come posters like Drak who
already know all this from the "Skipping Toronto" thread.

that will continue until an in depth analysis will take place between uncle toni and myself as to whether my advice was taken.:twisted::twisted:

 

[Deleted member 25923]

not if he bows in the second round

Sorry The-Champ, but I just find every one of your "Nadal should lose early in Cincy posts" hilarious. It's just real funny in contrast to the ****s!

 

[BreakPoint]

So another year where Nadal heads to the US Open overplayed:twisted::twisted::twisted:

Don't say I didn't call it because I did.

Now 5 matches here in Toronto..
Now he will kill himself in Cinncy (another 5 or 6 matches)
Then the lemmings presented first few rounds of US OPen.

The a fringing minimum 15 friging matches before the business end of USO.

Question> Does Uncle Toni ever Learn?

Nadal only played 4 matches in Toronto: Wawrinka, Anderson, Kohlschreiber, and Murray. The Top 8 seeds all get byes in the 1st round.

 

[BreakPoint]

give it a rest and stop trying to imply that a world class athlete is tired after playing two events and then getting a week off this is what he trains for...its what they all train for.

just stop and accept that fact the he loses sometimes it happens to everyone no player ever has gone undefeated so it doesnt make him an awful player that he loses matches....come on the way some people go on and on about these players getting tired is just sad.

so many whiny fans he played a three hour match and the other guy only played an hour he is gonna be so tired....no his isnt and if he is thats his fault for letting the match go three hours.


omg he played to events in a row he might fall a part just shut up please. you make me really sad to be a tennis fan.

Exactly! Great post!

Nadal should be glad that he's not playing in the era before tiebreaks and when almost every pro match was best of 5 sets. People make it sound like he would never even finish a single match, let alone be able to play two tournaments in a row. Sad.

 

[rovex]

If Nadal runs into Murray then really there is only going to be one winner and that's Murray. Nadal has to pray that he's on the other side of the draw and goes out before they are seeded to meet.

 

[okdude1992]

Well tht's my function..I come on this board every two months and say either

nadal should skip tourny X or..
nadal should tank tourny Y ..hence the sarcasm come posters like Drak who
already know all this from the "Skipping Toronto" thread.

that will continue until an in depth analysis will take place between uncle toni and myself as to whether my advice was taken.:twisted::twisted:

oh i see. sorry i thought you were just a *******. so basically you are just hoping nobody brings out the over used "rafa was injured" excuse if he loses at the open ?

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

oh i see. sorry i thought you were just a *******. so basically you are just hoping nobody brings out the over used "rafa was injured" excuse if he loses at the open ?

that's the point..if he tanks early in cinncy..then he will be fresh for the
US Open...then no excuses.

then...no more 1000 nadal was tired/injured posts after the US Open saving
everybodies time and tolerance.

pretty simple really..skip either event..or start tanking like master fed

 

[THESEXPISTOL]

firstly, he's played 4, not 5 matches...

secondly, he played queens before wimby 2008 and won there , there is no masters series on grass, so that's a fail

thirdly ,aussie 2009 , there is no masters series before the Aussie Open, he played exhos ( 3 of them I think - davydenko, sod and murray ) and then 3 matches in doha ( losing to monfils ) ... that's 6 matches

this thread has fail written all over it

Thanks for saving me a post!

 

[reversef]

Roddick skips at least 2 clay masters in the lead up to RG BTW

And his results at RG are brilliant. In something like 10 RG, he reached the fourth round once..