Carlos Alcaraz has the potential to be a BETTER player than Roger Federer

[Holmes]

There I said it. I watched Federer since the beginning and I’ve been watching Alcaraz for the last 2-3 years and I can tell you the Spaniard has a higher ceiling than the Swiss. He's a very special talent. For starters, I think Alcaraz is a better baseliner and mentally stronger when compared to Federer. Yes I’m aware of what happened at RG 22 so don’t bother mentioning it, cause it happens, and I’ve seen enough of Alcaraz to know he’s one tough motherf*cker. Even Rick Macci himself admitted he hasn't seen anyone like this guy in the last 30 years, and he's coached the female GOAT.

I have no doubt he’ll achieve great things in the future; however, I don’t think he’ll have the same success Federer had. Alcaraz’s generation is way more talented than Federer’s generation so unfortunately for him, he won’t have Federer’s luxury as the competition will be fierce. Roddick, Hewitt and Baghadatis are really nothing compared to Medvedev, Sinner, Hurkacz, and Auger-Aliassime. Besides, Carlos seems like a guy who has other interests in life than to keep hitting a ball until he’s 45 years old like Federer. Anyways, that’s not the point.

The point is I believe The Spanish Achilles has what it takes to take Federer’s game to the next level. He'll be performing and playing tennis at a higher level. That he’ll do should he put in the effort. His backhand and serve still leave a lot to be desired and not at Fed’s level yet but he’ll get there. Federer kept improving even in his 30s so Carlos has a lot of time ahead of him to improve.

One more thing, I’m not sure of this but I can see him becoming even a more popular player than Federer in the future. Two reasons, he’s better looking and more personable in the social media, all what’s left is success which is coming his way soon!

#Your heard it here first.
Bump it in a few years.

 

[Mark-Touch]

I don't see it.
I saw it in Sampras and Fed but I don't see it in Alcaraz.

 

[Oceans II]

I think Madrid 2022 beating Djokodal b2b on grueling clay has already proved that, something Federer never did and can't envisage his younger self doing.

 

[eric42]

Get a room

 

[CoolCoolCool]

I don't see it.
I saw it in Sampras and Fed but I don't see it in Alcaraz.

Neither does he, probably. This is just another creative way of saying he likes Djokodal but can't stand Fed.

 

[nolefam_2024]

To be better player than Federer you will need 7 ATP finals or 21 grand slams. He is sooo far away. And you will keep shouting alcaraz is overrated the moment he will have bad patch too.

 

[Razer]

Carlos seems like a guy who has other interests in life than to keep hitting a ball until he’s 45 years old like Federer. Anyways, that’s not the point.

As if Carlos will have a choice ?

Carlos is already at his physical peak or very close to it, he doesn't have higher ceiling to touch from there, he could only improve his game, you'll see what happens when Sinner, Rune and others get bigger and stronger, wait an watch.

 

[Robert F]

Carlos is much more physical and appears more explosive than Fed.
Compared to other guys on the tour he pushes forward more, but I think this is in relation to what everyone else is doing.

Fed on the other hand was much better at taking the ball early, shortening the court and forcing the play.
Carlos will have to add this element to his game if he wants to surpass Fed. Serve might need some work too.

Carlos has good intensity and focus. But he gives me a feeling he is close to a ceilng in his talent and I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Razer]

I think Madrid 2022 beating Djokodal b2b on grueling clay has already proved that, something Federer never did and can't envisage his younger self doing.

Federer did somehow beat old Sampras in 5 close sets, I am sure Carlos will be straight setted by old Pete on Grass.

 

[Holmes]

To be better player than Federer you will need 7 ATP finals or 21 grand slams. He is sooo far away. And you will keep shouting alcaraz is overrated the moment he will have bad patch too.

Give him time. He's accomplished much more than Roger did at the same age.

 

[LuckyR]

Better player? Yes. More successful? I highly doubt it, but possible.

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

Better player? Yes. More successful? I highly doubt it, but possible.

Neither, noone is a better player than Federer

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

Roddick, Hewitt and Baghadatis are really nothing compared to Medvedev, Sinner, Hurkacz, and Auger.

This sounds like a meme, reads way too much like a parody to be taken seriously. Those players haven't even reached Roddick/Hewitt and only the first 2 might have potential to. Baghdatis at his very best could play amazing too

 

[Deleted member 629564]

Neither, noone is a better player than Federer

Agree. Roger Federer is the greatest ever, everyone knows that.

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

Agree. Roger Federer is the greatest ever, everyone knows that.

He can be baby Federer/baby Nadal hybrid or something

 

[Holmes]

Better player? Yes. More successful? I highly doubt it, but possible.

Covered in OP. Alcaraz has tougher competition and a broader palette of interests than Federer.

 

[Holmes]

This sounds like a meme, reads way too much like a parody to be taken seriously. Those players haven't even reached Roddick/Hewitt and only the first 2 might have potential to. Baghdatis at his very best could play amazing too

And Hurkacz at his very best bagelled Roger on Centre Court. It doesn't get much better than that!

 

[AVSH]

What about injuries? I don’t think we’ll see another player like fed that competed in as many tournaments consecutively in the new gen.

 

[Sudacafan]

Thread of the month.

(How could I forget of posting some sarcasm in this thread?)

 

[Sudacafan]

What about injuries? I don’t think we’ll see another player like fed that competed in as many tournaments consecutively in the new gen.

Alcaraz will have the best injuries of his generation which will help him meet his goals of tennis domination in future years.

 

[augustobt]

Without a pretty one-hander? I doubt. But he already stole my heart and I feel him as a spiritual sucessor of some kind.

 

[Born_to_slice]

I think he would need a better serve for that but who knows.

 

[smalahove]

I think he would need a better serve for that but who knows.

I agree. I think his BH is also lacking compared to the best ones on tour atm. Imo, his biggest weapon, compared to the other top players, is his speed and court coverage. It would be very interesting to see how he fares against a player like Medvedev, when they're both firing on all engines.

 

[hofshot]

a broader palette of interests than Federer.

Be a little more creative please

 

[ND-13]

Alcaraz will win 40 majors in the 2003-07 era

 

[Holmes]

Alcaraz will win 40 majors in the 2003-07 era

Might be overstating it a little, but 10-15 seems reasonable. Far more athleticism and the potential to pose an actual threat to Nadal on clay.

 

[ND-13]

Might be overstating it a little, but 10-15 seems reasonable. Far more athleticism and the potential to pose an actual threat to Nadal on clay.

A guy with an inferior backhand and laughable mental strength won 11 majors.

Alcaraz is off the charts blockbuster material . Granted Alcaraz does not have the luxury of playing Papadopolous and other veterans , but in reality there is no comparison whatsoever

 

[Tennfan123]

I think Madrid 2022 beating Djokodal b2b on grueling clay has already proved that, something Federer never did and can't envisage his younger self doing.

It's funny how Clay becomes a legitimate surface depending on a fanbase agenda.
Most funny indeed.

 

[Holmes]

A guy with an inferior backhand and laughable mental strength won 11 majors.

Alcaraz is off the charts blockbuster material . Granted Alcaraz does not have the luxury of playing Papadopolous and other veterans , but in reality there is no comparison whatsoever

Exactly. Alcaraz has what it takes to sweep the natural and hard court surfaces. His far superior athleticism and mental strength would have made him a far bigger threat to Rafa on clay than Roger ever was. Unfortunately, he doesn't get the handicap of playing against journeymen like Gonzalez and Baghdatis, or overachievers like Hewitt and Roddick in slam finals, so he'll probably end up with just 10 or so majors overall.

 

[vex]

There I said it. I watched Federer since the beginning and I’ve been watching Alcaraz for the last 2-3 years and I can tell you the Spaniard has a higher ceiling than the Swiss. He's a very special talent. For starters, I think Alcaraz is a better baseliner and mentally stronger when compared to Federer. Yes I’m aware of what happened at RG 22 so don’t bother mentioning it, cause it happens, and I’ve seen enough of Alcaraz to know he’s one tough motherf*cker. Even Rick Macci himself admitted he hasn't seen anyone like this guy in the last 30 years, and he's coached the female GOAT.

I have no doubt he’ll achieve great things in the future; however, I don’t think he’ll have the same success Federer had. Alcaraz’s generation is way more talented than Federer’s generation so unfortunately for him, he won’t have Federer’s luxury as the competition will be fierce. Roddick, Hewitt and Baghadatis are really nothing compared to Medvedev, Sinner, Hurkacz, and Auger-Aliassime. Besides, Carlos seems like a guy who has other interests in life than to keep hitting a ball until he’s 45 years old like Federer. Anyways, that’s not the point.

The point is I believe The Spanish Achilles has what it takes to take Federer’s game to the next level. He'll be performing and playing tennis at a higher level. That he’ll do should he put in the effort. His backhand and RoS still leave a lot to be desired and not at Fed’s level yet but he’ll get there. Federer kept improving even in his 30s so Carlos has a lot of time ahead of him to improve.

One more thing, I’m not sure of this but I can see him becoming even a more popular player than Federer in the future. Two reasons, he’s better looking and more personable in the social media, all what’s left is success which is coming his way soon!

#Your heard it here first.
Bump it in a few years.

Had me going until the end. Quality trolling.

 

[mike danny]

I think Madrid 2022 beating Djokodal b2b on grueling clay has already proved that, something Federer never did and can't envisage his younger self doing.

Federer beat Sampras in 5 sets at Wimb, let's wait and see Alcaraz being these much older guys in BO5 too.

 

[mike danny]

Federer did somehow beat old Sampras in 5 close sets, I am sure Carlos will be straight setted by old Pete on Grass.

Federer at least had a very good H2H against the old guard of Pete/Andre so he at least took care of them for the most part. Let's see if Carlos can do that with Djokodal.

 

[Hypo Crisis]

There I said it. I watched Federer since the beginning and I’ve been watching Alcaraz for the last 2-3 years and I can tell you the Spaniard has a higher ceiling than the Swiss. He's a very special talent. For starters, I think Alcaraz is a better baseliner and mentally stronger when compared to Federer. Yes I’m aware of what happened at RG 22 so don’t bother mentioning it, cause it happens, and I’ve seen enough of Alcaraz to know he’s one tough motherf*cker. Even Rick Macci himself admitted he hasn't seen anyone like this guy in the last 30 years, and he's coached the female GOAT.

I have no doubt he’ll achieve great things in the future; however, I don’t think he’ll have the same success Federer had. Alcaraz’s generation is way more talented than Federer’s generation so unfortunately for him, he won’t have Federer’s luxury as the competition will be fierce. Roddick, Hewitt and Baghadatis are really nothing compared to Medvedev, Sinner, Hurkacz, and Auger-Aliassime. Besides, Carlos seems like a guy who has other interests in life than to keep hitting a ball until he’s 45 years old like Federer. Anyways, that’s not the point.

The point is I believe The Spanish Achilles has what it takes to take Federer’s game to the next level. He'll be performing and playing tennis at a higher level. That he’ll do should he put in the effort. His backhand and RoS still leave a lot to be desired and not at Fed’s level yet but he’ll get there. Federer kept improving even in his 30s so Carlos has a lot of time ahead of him to improve.

One more thing, I’m not sure of this but I can see him becoming even a more popular player than Federer in the future. Two reasons, he’s better looking and more personable in the social media, all what’s left is success which is coming his way soon!

#Your heard it here first.
Bump it in a few years.

Why Federer ? Could you just mention Agassi then ?

 

[jackson vile]

No

 

[Mark-Touch]

There I said it. I watched Federer since the beginning and I’ve been watching Alcaraz for the last 2-3 years and I can tell you the Spaniard has a higher ceiling than the Swiss. He's a very special talent. For starters, I think Alcaraz is a better baseliner and mentally stronger when compared to Federer. Yes I’m aware of what happened at RG 22 so don’t bother mentioning it, cause it happens, and I’ve seen enough of Alcaraz to know he’s one tough motherf*cker. Even Rick Macci himself admitted he hasn't seen anyone like this guy in the last 30 years, and he's coached the female GOAT.
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If the aim of your signature (as it currently stands on Mar 18, 2023 at 2:02 pm) is to denigrate the greatness of Federer then you have failed:

"MUG RF (Movement to Unveil the Greatness of Roger Federer)"

Check the definition of 'unveil'.
You will find it is the exact opposite of what you seem to be trying to achieve.
It means to 'reveal'.
Do you really wish to say 'Movement to Reveal the Greatness of Roger Federer' ?

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

Greater maybe. By the numbers. "Better"? He needs a better serve for that. Greater doesn't mean better. I dont think the Big 3 were better than Pete or McEnroe or Connors or Borg for instance. Maybe Djokovic was better. . In alot of ways Agassi was better than all the 3 guys as well. But all 3 had a better career. Doesn't make them "better players". Just more fortunate with less depth and easier conditions to stay on top for much longer due to homogenizing the conditions.

Carlos could eclipse all the Big 3 and their numbers. But that doesn't make him a better player. It will just mean he had an easier opportunity to dominate a putzy field. He may not have anyone to contend with in a few years and no legit rival. Who knows. Makes it way easier to dominate

 

[Fed Kennedy]

Higher ceiling? He’s like 5’6”

 

[Holmes]

If the aim of your signature (as it currently stands on Mar 18, 2023 at 2:02 pm) is to denigrate the greatness of Federer then you have failed:

"MUG RF (Movement to Unveil the Greatness of Roger Federer)"

Check the definition of 'unveil'.
You will find it is the exact opposite of what you seem to be trying to achieve.
It means to 'reveal'.
Do you really wish to say 'Movement to Reveal the Greatness of Roger Federer' ?

My aim is to reveal Roger's true, unappreciated greatness.

 

[djokovic the conqueror]

Alcaraz also has the potential to grow taller than Federer.

 

[big ted]

federer is pretty much perfect so i don't see this happening.. ill be surprised if alcarez can surpass sampras' GS count.. i dont think anyone besides the big 3 is going to get those 20+ GS numbers anymore becuz after they retire its just a bunch of scrubs playing other scrubs

 

[Holmes]

federer is pretty much perfect so i don't see this happening.. ill be surprised if alcarez can surpass sampras' GS count.. i dont think anyone besides the big 3 is going to get those 20+ GS numbers anymore

Of course he won't, his competition is fiercer than the Srichaphan years of yore.

 

[big ted]

Of course he won't, his competition is fiercer than the Srichaphan years of yore.

why mention Srichaphan lol? his best GS showing is 4th round lol.. most people only know him becuz he beat agassi at Wimbledon one year.. its like mentioning Khachanov now

 

[Holmes]

why mention Srichaphan lol? his best GS showing is 4th round lol.. most people only know him becuz he beat agassi at Wimbledon one year.. its like mentioning Khachanov now

Do you want me to bring up Grosjean, Bjorkman, Baghdatis, Gonzalez, making slam semis and finals?

 

[Impressario]

Better perhaps, classier never

 

[Benf15harp3000]

Who is Carlos?

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

federer is pretty much perfect so i don't see this happening.. ill be surprised if alcarez can surpass sampras' GS count.. i dont think anyone besides the big 3 is going to get those 20+ GS numbers anymore becuz after they retire its just a bunch of scrubs playing other scrubs

Yea just imagine if Djokovic grew up trying to play like Federer and a one handed backhand he'd have ended up so far behind in results lol. Guy abused consistency to the max instead of incredible shotmaking

 

[LuckyR]

Neither, noone is a better player than Federer

Oh Roger is the GOAT, no doubt. Though Rafa is better than him and Novak is better than Rafa.

 

[LuckyR]

Covered in OP. Alcaraz has tougher competition and a broader palette of interests than Federer.

My point is that better player and more successful career are two completely separate things.

 

[Holmes]

My point is that better player and more successful career are two completely separate things.

No doubt. Roger will have the more successful career because his competition consisted of Roddick, Hewitt, and Amun-RAgassi, but Alcaraz will be the better player. He's already miles ahead of where Roger was at his age. One can't even imagine how big the gap will be when he hits his prime.

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

My point is that better player and more successful career are two completely separate things.

They are. Its basically the difference between someone who has never won the lottery vs. someone who has. Right place right time is sometimes the key to life