lol, should i then be flattered instead?
lol, should i then be flattered instead?
lol, should i then be flattered instead?
for the purpose of full disclosure though. When UTR actually had you at 10.6 - was it because:the difference between you and me, is that you were actually a 10.5 (or 11 - and one of my old threads has some vid proof of a young maxtennis)
it's a complete farce that i was a 10 anything
9 would be sorta a personal rec accomplishment
Why does he get a dossier and I don't?
That information has been added to your dossier.I can't even spell dossier.
J
i've worked really hard to keep my super secret identity,... including wearing ski masks in summer to hit with many folks on here IRL... now my cover is blown!
yeah, sorry man,... can't elevate your rating through my BS rating and we did have a very very close fun match (can't wait to do it again!) that said i am currently an 8.07... 8's decent for us, right? (which is also why i was impressed by MEP's @GSG rating of 8.37... that's comparable to the top 4.5's in my area)for the purpose of full disclosure though. When UTR actually had you at 10.6 - was it because:
p.s. I'm kind of said you think that 10.6 was not justified. We had a fairly close match going, your high rating would greatly improve my confidence.....
- the rating was based on only very few results?
- the opponents rating was incorrect for some reason?
- else?
I would like to play you if you're ever out in Southern California! I'm currently 9.74.
Are you left handed?No i dont
typical internet tennis players impressed by a guy who can run and has a decent hand eye coordination. Unfortunately he cannot play tennis, so yeah, ireckon i would beat him withmy left hand
i'm just impressed with his results...No i dont
typical internet tennis players impressed by a guy who can run and has a decent hand eye coordination. Unfortunately he cannot play tennis, so yeah, ireckon i would beat him withmy left hand
anywho, stalking OP aside, the vid is interesting
i suspect the d1 player doesn't play that style often... or ever?
i imagine she would get stronger if they played 10x, as she gets used to reading the balls off technique she's not accustomed to...
at least that's how i feel when i play off rhythm players (also why i actively pursue playing them because it helps me get better).
Wasn't this vid already posted in another thread? I thought I ping'd @PURETENNISsense in that one. Did we start another? I am old, memory and eyesight are going, but luckily based on the end for matches of a a season a while back still have a UTR that says I shouldn't lose a hack 3.5 match like I did last night. I hate my life and you all suck. Imma go drink now.
If this is correct, then using @J011yroger's math above, there are only 11 or so levels of 6-2,6-2 wins between Novak and a 2.5 lady. Doesn't seem like enough ...I have it on good authority that 1.5 point difference is 6-2 6-2 and a .5 difference is 6-4 6-4.
4 UTR is like the event horizon of a black hole where nothing makes sense.If this is correct, then using @J011yroger's math above, there are only 11 or so levels of 6-2,6-2 wins between Novak and a 2.5 lady. Doesn't seem like enough ...
Perhaps WTN with levels from 40 to 1 makes more sense ...
When I look up the UTR of the players I know, their UTR seem relatively accurate assuming they played enough matches.
I find MEP to be fascinating. I don't see too many with his style at 4.5+ NTRP or 7.0+ UTR.
Keep in mind that even some ex-college players drop to or even below his rating at middle age.
If MEP reaches 5.0 NTRP, that would be some accomplishment.
I don't see him reaching that level in doubles tho, as his shots would be picked off at the net.
Why does he get a dossier and I don't?
He might not win as much with better technique. It's the repetitious slow ball that evokes the impatience of the opponents.I think it is sad that GSG has such crap technique.
He is clearly a gifted athlete and would probably be a very good player, had he the opportunity to learn good fundamentals,
Undoubtably he would win more.He might not win as much with better technique. It's the repetitious slow ball that evokes the impatience of the opponents.
Thanks I think?Undoubtably he would win more.
A player who has such immense hand-eye coordination that he can win at 4.5 while handcuffed with such awful technique is a far more gifted athlete than anyone he is playing against.
Sorry mate, I didn’t realise you actually posted hereThanks I think?
It's all good, I had just never read such an amusing backhanded compliment about my tennis before!Sorry mate, I didn’t realise you actually posted here
I mean... it was meant as a compliment. I’ve played since I was eight with plenty of coaching, so my strokes are pretty enough. But without the natural intuition and timing of an athlete, improvement was always a hard slog.
I reckon my olds would have got a lot more out of their dollar with you.
WTF...you lost to a hack 3.5?Wasn't this vid already posted in another thread? I thought I ping'd @PURETENNISsense in that one. Did we start another? I am old, memory and eyesight are going, but luckily based on the end for matches of a a season a while back still have a UTR that says I shouldn't lose a hack 3.5 match like I did last night. I hate my life and you all suck. Imma go drink now.
for example, at some point i had a utr10.6 (rounded up to 11 for you non-paying-utr-users!!)... definitely took that picture&framed it, and sent it to everyone thats bagelled me .
Man, I wish I was 18 again lol
I can't even spell dossier.
J
It is mentally very hard to keep the foot on the pedal for 2/3 sets when you see these balls come back over and over and over and over .........He might not win as much with better technique. It's the repetitious slow ball that evokes the impatience of the opponents.
This particular? He lost, if you watched it till the end. To not-that-high-level lady who's just trained properly and managed to get her things together after a slump.It is mentally very hard to keep the foot on the pedal for 2/3 sets when you see these balls come back over and over and over and over .........
This video (along with other GSG videos) should be stickied for all the pushing-wins-non-believers
I think she would get better but it also depends on how MEP responds. As she gets better, so would he. He would likely find ways to utilize the silce and make it more difficult for her. I think he also has opporutnity on the serve to win some free/sneaky points here an there and allow him to hold a bit easier.i imagine she would get stronger if they played 10x, as she gets used to reading the balls off technique she's not accustomed to...
i'm gonna go with an ageist comment (ie. as a youth)... because i'm love to volley like navratilova...Wow.
J
Undoubtably he would win more.
A player who has such immense hand-eye coordination and court sense that he play these sorts of shots well enough to win at 4.5 is a far more gifted athlete than anyone he is playing against.
If he wasn’t handcuffed by his technique he’d be out of these guys’ league.
Exactly!Is there another video that highlights "immense hand-eye coordination?" I didn't see anything spectacular in this one. Don't get me wrong I didn't see him lacking there.
The keys I saw
1) Good tennis IQ/percentage tennis
2) Very low-energy strokes
3) Decent movement/fitness
Maybe he has great fitness I don't know, I just didn't see it tested here. He wasn't physically working as hard as his opponent, as his swing is a light chip and she's taking full swings and generating the pace.
At this point I have no reason to believe he'd do better with traditional strokes. I think a lot of his success is because of his hitting style, not in spite of it.
Maybe he has great fitness I don't know, I just didn't see it tested here. He wasn't physically working as hard as his opponent, as his swing is a light chip and she's taking full swings and generating the pace.
hehe the spaniards are in your camp... they are all about making their opponents suffer, let's them overcome many weapons if they can take the legs out of their opponentsI agree with you based on what Troll has put out there so far. I think when fitness/conditioning really comes into play for me is in the 3rd set, and I haven't played any full three setters on the channel (though it is certainly my preference to do so). What I can tell you is that 90%+ of the time, I'm able to maintain the same mental/physical energy level throughout even the longest of matches, and I find the vast majority of my opponents are unwilling or unable to do that. Although they are each only two setters, you can sort of see examples of "winning via fitness" in the NYC rematch and to a lesser extent in the D3 Switcharoo match on the channel.
Then you are underestimating the amount of hand eye coordination required to consistently hit those sorts of shots against those sorts of playersIs there another video that highlights "immense hand-eye coordination?" I didn't see anything spectacular in this one.
At this point I have no reason to believe he'd do better with traditional strokes. I think a lot of his success is because of his hitting style, not in spite of it.
You gonna drive the haters crazy
I skimmed through. But as @GSG said, if it was a full third set I would have bet my money on him on this particular match.This particular? He lost, if you watched it till the end. To not-that-high-level lady who's just trained properly and managed to get her things together after a slump.
Can't tell if we are agreeing or disagreeing?@GSG has filmed matches where he wins and where he loses. He loses to attackers with solid fundamentals and strong mind. He wins against baseline counter-pounchers, actually, whos '-punches' have no power and pace to 'counter'. He really challenges their score of free points (off 'decent' serving and waiting for rally UEs), and makes them try to beat him taking charge of every point, what they don't usually do with any success (even if they think they do). On top of that, he disrupts them with some dose of junkballing as they try to focus on their execution. So forces them into mentally uncomfortable state for long period, ready to play a full 3-setter. Tough.
If you don't know TT... he's already reached his full potential once he went to the polyhedron strategyI think she would get better but it also depends on how MEP responds. As she gets better, so would he.
There are a few guys I at the tournaments that I play that have this style and it is exactly the reason they win. They force errors out of their opponents and frustrate them until they beat themselves.
With regular strokes, they would not get anywhere close to that far.
A classic example:
Maybe instead of improving his game the traditional way, @GSG should model his game after Santoro. They play so similar. Santoro's even got a green shirt!
It is mentally very hard to keep the foot on the pedal for 2/3 sets when you see these balls come back over and over and over and over .........
This video (along with other GSG videos) should be stickied for all the pushing-wins-non-believers