Beckerserve
Legend
Spot on.
Djokovic calls ATP finals pinnacle of the season
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Beckerserve
Legend
Anyone who is daft enough to not know the difference between Rome and FO clearly knows nothing about tennis or is in denial lol.
Beckerserve
Legend
Nope. Essentially an event to satisfy the corporates. Reason? You can lose but win.
Beckerserve
Legend
20-17 still stinging him it appears. Vienna was a big deal 2 weeks ago for him. Until it wasnt lol.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Yes, most fans don’t care about that stuff
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Casual fans genuinely don't care that much about those kinds of distinctions. You'd be surprised.
Beckerserve
Legend
Lol. Ill correct the error. Casual fans know 4 events. They are called the Grand Slam events.
I live in Germany. Swiss German is a language. It's called Schwiezer Dütsch, which means exactly Swiss German. It's basically German with swiss accent, but it's tough to understand for Germans. One example for Swiss German is Federer's famous scream "Chum Jetze", which is Swiss German for "Komm jetzt", which means "Come on" in English (actually "jetzt" means "now", but in that context "Komm jetzt" is "Come on").
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Would that make it merely a dialect of German, then?
Well, that probably depends on the definition of language and dialect. I'd say you could call it a language, since many words are completely different from German and it's basically impossible to understand if Swiss German is spoken at normal speed.
Maybe it's technically a dialect, but I suppose blablavla was trying to say Swiss German doesn't exist, and that is definitely wrong.
Amritia
Hall of Fame
Agree with this
Amritia
Hall of Fame
I like your display pic. That was the funniest moment from the whole Axios interview.
Amritia
Hall of Fame
There's no one I've played tennis with who hasn't heard of the 4 Grand Slams. Who are these 80 people you play tennis with? Memory loss patients?
Amritia
Hall of Fame
Spot on, on both fronts.
Firstly Davis Cup needs to switch back to its old format. All year round we're used to watching the big stars play against each other. Davis Cup didn't have that in recent years, but it did have really uniquely fun matches. For example Cilic vs Del Potro with the amazing home atmosphere was mesmerising. Not everything should be about big 3.
And I also think they should make WTF final BO5. To do that they'd have to give a day gap between the semis and the final, so perhaps have it on a Monday evening.
coolboarder
Rookie
If WTF is being played in the summer then it's pinnacle of the season. Season finale tournament is the necessarily the indicator of who you are as a tennis player where it needs to be a right circumstance of prestige tournament. It would be unique if that tournament offer all 3 surface where a said player would get its choice of surface that can come in the stadium at a moment notice like Arizona Cardinal's home stadium where they put the field for the game day. Imagine clay coming in for afternoon session then grass court in the night session and leave the court outside and you could use hard court to your advantage. But again if the WTF is being held in November, it loses it's luster for the sport as whole.
Amritia
Hall of Fame
This doesn't necessarily mean it's a meme event.
In the two biggest events in football, the World Cup and Champions League, teams can lose a match in the group stage and still win the tournament overall.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
I didn’t say they hadn‘t heard of them. I said they didn’t know the difference between the tournaments. Most people don‘t care enough about this.
Amritia
Hall of Fame
But they've heard of the Italian Open? I hadn't even heard of the Italian Open, I had to look it up and saw it was the Rome Masters 1000.
All tennis fans know about the Grand Slams, and the fact they're the most important. Everyone who has heard of Nadal knows about the French Open.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Most people don’t follow tennis closely enough to know the difference between the tournaments. That’s something left for tennis nerds at places like TTW.
Amritia
Hall of Fame
That's not my experience at all. Literally everyone I know who either plays or follows tennis even a bit knows about Grand Slams specifically.
Federer on Twitter wrote Nadal a congratulations for equalling his 20 Grand Slams and it got 600K likes. I don't think these people were confused as to what he was referring to.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
I wouldn’t rely on Twitter likes to measure how many people can tell you which are the most important tennis tournaments and why
Amritia
Hall of Fame
It is a good barometer of tennis fans outside the nerd bubble of TTW though.
I've never met a single person who follows or plays tennis and hasn't heard of Grand Slams specifically. Apparently you play tennis with 80 people, and none of them have heard of Grand Slams.
I'm sorry, I just don't believe your anecdote. It seems absurd, and I think it's just mental gymnastics because Nadal equalled the Grand Slam record.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
You seem to not have read what I wrote. Let’s leave it at that
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
lol thanks. The entire meme format is even funnier than just the one image (especially the one with five frames instead of three):
Amritia
Hall of Fame
That graph bit was great.lol thanks. The entire meme format is even funnier than just the one image (especially the one with five frames instead of three):
I still go back on YouTube and rewatch this scene too:
"Some people say that you shouldn't test"
"Who says that"
"Read the manuals... uh... read the books"
*Jonathan Swain confused face*
"What manuals? What books?"
So so funny.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Happy to disagree.
there are enough trolls on this board that know the difference between Rome and FO, and yet don't know much about tennis.
please don't confuse worshipping their idol with knowing tennis.
If you live in Germany, then you probably know that German language spoke say in Berlin is quite different from German language spoken in Bavaria.
Would those two be separate languages?
And you probably know that Swiss German is not 1 formal language, but a bunch of dialects.
So a person from Zurich might have issues understanding another person from Sankt Gallen or Basel.
Would those be 3 different languages as well?
Or would those all be dialects of "Hochdeutsch"?
demrle
Professional
OP, I thought you found baiting lame?
ForehandCross
G.O.A.T.
Atp season.
demrle
Professional
The context of the discussion which brought the whole issue up was whether Federer should get credit for learning Hochdeutsch as a foreign language, i.e. whether Schwiezer Dütsch and Hochdeutsch schould be considered separate languages for him. It's next to impossible to grow up in a German-speaking part of Switzerland and not learn Hochdeutsch, unless one's OK with staying illiterate. No credit for Federer there, it was just a small extension of his mother tongue, or to be precise his father tongue.
demrle
Professional
Where did you mention the "ATP season"?
As you can see, many posters understood your title as Novak being salty and depreciating the value of slams and proceeded to comment in that direction. In that sense it worked as a bait, even if you did it unintentionally.
In my case it was a "bait" only in the sense that I wanted to attract people so we could discuss a serious issue. No reason to go easier on yourself then you went on me.
Beckerserve
Legend
Been a fantastic year tennis wise for Rafa fans so always happy bud.
ForehandRF
Legend
As I said numerous times, some of you, Nadal's fans, are not open minded in the sense that you can't deal with the fact that there is a tournament in a different format.No wonder you don't like variety in tennis
Beckerserve
Legend
The format is daft. It should be straight knockout of top 16 seeds. Also having it on hard court robs it of imoortance as we already have 2 Majors on hard. Should be alternated between grass and clay and held in a different location every year.As I said numerous times, some of you, Nadal's fans, are not open minded in the sense that you can't deal with the fact that there is a tournament in a different format.No wonder you don't like variety in tennis
The format is clearly designed to ensure a minimum 3 games for the most marketable players.
demrle
Professional
You're posting in the wrong thread, there's already one named "Which tennis event occasions the most salt?"
Bumbaliceps
Professional
He only tries to look salty. And he is doing good. He is not a Nadal fan by any mean, just a Nadal hater going for too much.
Beckerserve
Legend
That has been decided. The french open just pipped Us Open.
demrle
Professional
If we go only by TTW it's WTF by a landslide. VB's allergic reaction to it is far stronger than anything we can compare it to. Just sayin'
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Good for you mate.Anyways, back to the actual topic of this thread, glad we can agree to disagree.
Beckerserve
Legend
Not seen anyone call for hard courts indoors to be erased. Clay oth has caused so much salt people actually want clay erased. So you are incorrect on this. It is FO all day long. For some FO is very sweet admittedly. Sweet and sour i guess.
demrle
Professional
Nah, I don't think so, he is too consistent in his BS in order for it to be fake. What you base your assessment on?
Beckerserve
Legend
Glad you agree its been a fantastic year for Nadal. I agree with you. It has. Hope you enjoyed the last two slams as was a fantastic diversion from the pandemic.
Anyways, back to the actual topic of this thread, glad we can agree to disagree.
demrle
Professional
Just stupid minorities among Fed and Rafa fans are under/overrating the clay, that's your niche fight. In the case of WTF much higher percentage of VB exudes salt. VB is big so it's a lot of salt.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
I enjoy all tennis. Tennis for me isn't about whether a certain player wins or not.
Anyways, this topic is about the ATP finals....care to stick to the actual topic? Thanks.
Beckerserve
Legend
Again incorrect. There is a major on clay. So to want clay erased is ultimate salt. Not even a debate here.
demrle
Professional
Ultimate salt yes, but by ultimately stupid ultimate minority. So that's very little salt as the end result.
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Beckerserve
Legend
Really? So as i said we agree its been a great year and will be remembered for Nadal making his20ry. It is nice we are in agreement and thank you for confirming you enjoyed the last two slams it is nice to see people still having fun given the ongoing pandemic. Not long to wait until AO. In meantime have a great festive break.I enjoy all tennis. Tennis for me isn't about whether a certain player wins or not.
Anyways, this topic is about the ATP finals....care to stick to the actual topic? Thanks.
demrle
Professional
Just go with "You're the disease ... and I'm the cure"I enjoy all tennis. Tennis for me isn't about whether a certain player wins or not.
Anyways, this topic is about the ATP finals....care to stick to the actual topic? Thanks.
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