Djokovic has never been further ahead of the field

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
The distance is even further than the length between Drake's first name basis and the line that followed it. Amazing really.

Fair play to the lad. He gonna be leading forever.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
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Rafa and Rog?
Yeah, they did well in 2017 and early 2022 ;)
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Nole's YE #1 total and ahead of #2 by points
2015: 16585, 7640
2011: 13630, 4035
2021: 11540, 2900
2023: 11245, 2390
Try more to cherry picking and spin 2015 vs 2023 ok?
And weirdly enough, all that "great" competition was live and well in 2015! In fact, one of them became #1 just next year, the other two won slams after 2015...and so much more, but hey...
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
The distance is even further than the length between Drake's first name basis and the line that followed it. Amazing really.

Fair play to the lad. He gonna be leading forever.
The new album is OK actually. Drake longevity looking decent. Does he have the peak though?
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
His only impressive year is 2011. All yhe other dominant years, he needed his main rivals to be injured or retired or suffered catastrophic loss of form or bumgens as opponents.

2015 - Main rival suffered catastrophic loss of form after appendix op.
2021 - His main rival injured and away. Bumgens as his field.
2022 - His main rival comes back and his win rate drops. Main rival again gets injured. Bumgens as his field.
2023 - Bumgens as his field.
When Djokovic is gone and all we have left are bumgens, will we be happy that someone new will win? Or will we be hurting deep inside knowing that bumgens are collecting slem titles.
 

Holmes

Hall of Fame
When Roger wowed the tennis world with his capacity to, like a fine Swiss wine, continually improve with age we thought we'd seen it all. Then along came Novak, who surpassed Roger in even this area, as likely few would doubt that his current incarnation would beat Roger at his 2021 best.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
Firstly, Joker has kept himself in incredible shape so he should be commended for his dedication towards his craft. Guys like Borg and Lendl set the standards as far as preparation goes and I think even among the Big 3 Joker has taken it to a new level. The dude let a square of chocolate melt on his tongue and that’s the last tasty thing he’s had in over a decade. He’s had nothing but berries and twigs since.

Secondly there’s the elephant in the room that is the opposition or in this field’s case lack thereof. We’ve had 3 successive generations who have produced a single ATG level talent in 17 years (more on him later). The #LostGen is appropriately named given that an entire generation produced a single 1x schlem winner who’s an absolute shadow of himself post injury R.I.P. Timmy’s wrist.

The following generation hasn’t faired much better (though they have done better in the big BO3 events courtesy of the Big 3 cutting down their schedules to focus on the schlems). The Mad Lad, Zedrot, Citybus, and Bweh have either all regressed or plateaued this year. Citybus has taken several steps back since peaking in 2021 and Zedrot hasn’t been the same since his ankle injury last year (not that he made a big impact at the schlems to begin with).

The Mad Lad had a great first half of the season in non-schlem events, but he’s added virtually nothing to his game since his breakout year in 2019. Mentally he hasn’t been the same since RAFA took his soul in the 2022 AO F. His ROS position has become an absolute liability against the top players and he has not made any adjustments to solve this issue. Joker, Tiny Carl, and the Sinner have all more or less completely figured him out now. Bweh is a perennial punching bag for everyone in the top 10. He’s a 500 vulture filler who can occasionally make a schlem QF but can go no further than that.

Now we’ve arrived at the #DiamondGen consisting of: the Sinner, Tiny Carl, and the Danish Brat. The Sinner finally won his first MS1000 of his career this year, granted his draw had to fall apart to laughable proportions. He looked great in the YEC up until the F, but even if he won there I wouldn’t be convinced it would translate into schlem success because that has been the case for all these young players who won the YEC sans Mad Lad who played probably the worst Joker in any GS F. Speaking of the schlems, the Sinner like the Mad Lad also plateaued (or worse took a small step backwards) at the schlems. His serve has improved a lot this year, but given his meek performance in the YEC F he still lacks the mental toughness to be a factor in the BO5 format.

The Danish Brat was…there I guess. I think he won a title compared to 3 last year. His schlem results did improve replicating his RG results from last year and making the Wimby QF this year. But as of right now his serve isn’t good enough and his FH is an absolute liability. Combine that with his lack of stamina and he’s not winning a schlem next year. The talent and mentality is there since he’s the only one yet to wet himself whenever he plays Joker.

Lastly, we have Tiny Carl who’s by far the toughest challenger the current tour has to offer. While he has improved this year compared to his very successful 2022 campaign, it wasn’t this massive jump that many people (myself included) were expecting. Like PETE said, any year you win a slam is a success, but it definitely wasn’t as much of a success as it could have/should have been. While his serve has improved and he adjusted to grass incredibly well, he’s now had back to back years where his body and form have fallen off a cliff post-2-1 Open, buds. This year he fell off even earlier after he won Wimby. Now it was amazing that he won Queens and Wimby back to back after having one of the worst physical/mental collapses in recent memory. But frankly he did benefit from a Joker who was incredibly mediocre to straight up bad in large chunks of the match. He still needs to work on his serve since he has to work far too hard to hold against the best returners in the world. He generates way too many BPs to not break serve as often as he should. Probably his two biggest concerns going into the offseason are working on his shot selection and shot tolerance. Physically this is probably the best he’ll ever be. I don’t see him getting any faster/improving his movement beyond where it’s at now. Any physical improvement is going to come down to stamina which while he is in good shape he did cramp up not once, not twice, but thrice in important matches this year they ultimately cost him 3 big titles.
Let's close the thread NOW!
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tex123

Hall of Fame
When Djokovic is gone and all we have left are bumgens, will we be happy that someone new will win? Or will we be hurting deep inside knowing that bumgens are collecting slem titles.
We'll never know bumgens are any good if they did not manage to beat Djokovic.

I don't miss big 3. It was a great period. The matches between bumgens are competitive and unpredictable. So, I always watch those.
 

FeroBango

Hall of Fame
When Djokovic is gone and all we have left are bumgens, will we be happy that someone new will win? Or will we be hurting deep inside knowing that bumgens are collecting slem titles.
We'll be fine. We are fine with Fedr being 1-3 against Djok on grass, Nadal not taking set off Novak outside for a decade, and Novak in turn being 7-11 against Nadal in slams after all.
 
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