Do Rafa fans believe in another slam??
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Flash O'Groove
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In my opinion both Federer and Nadal shot at another slam lie on Djokovic declining or being upset. They can be good enough to defeat someone else but Djokovic has just too much confidence, determination and skills to lose to them in a slam.
No chance. He is a pale shadow of the guy that used to dominate Novak and federer in the biggest matches.Just interested. Are Rafa fans still believing in another slam like Fed fans have for years or have you given up???
I made a thread last year how I felt sorry for Rafa. Its hit me again. Dont know why
Rafa used to be the fittest mentally toughest and strongest guy on tour who could out grind everyone. He had bewildering speed around the court that made playing him almost impossible on any surfAce.
Now though most players in top 30 are probably as quick if not quicker around the court and most guys are now physically stronger and fitter stamina wise. So rafa 's main weapons are no longer present. Unlike federer he does not have a god given natural talent that he can rely on to cruise past lesser players. Rafa can't roll over even top70 players on sheer talent and without his almost inhuman physical powers of old he is a very much like superman in superman 2 when he lost his powers after falling for Louis lane. He became Clark Kent and got owned by some pie eating trucker in a diner and in tennis terms rafa is in the same place really. I just hoping novak doesn't bellow 'kneel before Nole' in the locker room!!!!!
In case some of u wondering what im on about....in summary no, nadal won't get close to winning a major
Poisoned Slice
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My crystal ball says that ship has sailed.
Noleberic123
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you have a crystal ball?
Poisoned Slice
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You mean your crystal ball says that ship has sailed to Switzerland?
Djokovic2011
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Especially not in the locker room!
bitcoinoperated
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Even as a rafa fan I have to say no He does have a chance at the FO with a good draw and shock exit(s) though.
He does have a chance at the FO with a good draw and shock exit(s) though.
Noleberic123
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But but.. weak era?Even as a rafa fan I have to say no
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Both Nadal & Federer can try to win slams but Djokovic will-
Gary Duane
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No, but I will be very happy to be wrong.
According to Rafa fans H2H is more valuable and picking up a hundred FO's is just as or more valuable than winning on faster surfaces (well they are all slow now). This tune hasn't changed. The fact that people think winning 1 more FO makes him greater than Fed is just delusional.
Chicharito
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In this current weak era, anything is possible.
cronus
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Yes, when Alexander Kudryavtsev wins a slam in the coming millennia it will put him ahead of raafa and roger in the EU debate.
Rafa owned Fed just like Djokovic owned Murray.
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More like Djokovic owns Murray just like Federer owned Roddick.
But wait.. you guys are in the process of selling Murray off as a failed 10-slam winner.
Yes, 10-24 and 3-21 are totally comparable. Both guys have never beaten the other in a slam final or a Masters final or any other final basically.More like Djokovic owns Murray just like Federer owned Roddick.
But wait.. you guys are in the process of selling Murray off as a failed 10-slam winner.
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9-18 is better than 10-24.
Didn't realize Roddick's record was 9-18.
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You said "both guys" -- referring to Roddick AND Hewitt.
Because Murray has beaten Djokovic in big matches.
No, your comprehension is pretty bad. The first part was the actual post... the second part was me mocking your post as you compared the two H2H in a very matter of fact way. My way of mocking was by subtly pointing out, by means of agreeing with your post, the differences in the rivalry where Andy has beaten Novak not only several more times, but also in slams and Masters finals.
And I obviously wasn't referring to Hewitt. He's actually beaten Fed in two finals... thought you'd know that as a Hewitt fan.
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Not big finals. That's what we were talking about - but your comprehension must be horrible not to pick up on that.
beaten the other in a slam final or a Masters final or any other final basicallyNot big finals. That's what we were talking about - but your comprehension must be horrible not to pick up on that.
But please go on telling me not only what I said, but also what I meant.
cronus
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Roger is probably has more money than raafa and djoker combined, i believe for one of them to own Roger it is going to be pretty tough, they may have to go for high interest loans, specially for djoker because he has to hide in foreign land with no shame to save what ever he has.
Djoker has been served bagle by 32 year old Roger.
AllPlayersAreGood
Rookie
Tennis needs Rafa. Period.
Nadal has a justifiable claim to be goat.
Federer has justifiable claim to be goat
Djokovic has justifiable claim to be goat.
There will never be a definitive answer between the three as everyone will have their own measuring stick.
Fans who still argue over this will just always be frustrated. There will never be a unaminous verdict for either three. I just consider them three of the six best ive ever seen and the top three of that six
Noleberic123
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Name your six. In order
sbengte
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Until RG, I was fully confident that Nadal had another good run in him with a slam or two at the minimum and it was only a matter of when.
However after he did the unthinkable and pulled out from Roland-freaking-Garros, all bets are off. I have no idea what the man may or may not do from here on.
However after he did the unthinkable and pulled out from Roland-freaking-Garros, all bets are off. I have no idea what the man may or may not do from here on.
The question is - is H2H a more important metric than slams. If you say it is, then you have the Davydenko issue (leads Nadal in the head to head - does that make him better than Nadal?). If you say it isn't then 17>15 . In my opinion it is far more nuanced than that. Even if Nadal gets to 17, he is still behind Federer because of Federer's 6 WTF vs 0 for Nadal
Rusty Shackleford
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Jaitock1991
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He definitely has a couple more Wimbledons in him.
Start da Game
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if he wins a slam, it would be either us open or aus open.......he is done with winning roland garros and wimbledon......
cronus
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It's interesting when we speak about 11-23 no one from Fed fans speaks about that. Their main theme is Hewit and Murray or who earned more money. LOL
Let me say something interesting, 29 years old prime gluten free pressure chamber champ, broken raafa, wheel chair roger, very strong field with the likes of Murray and Canadian sandwich but still ATP 40 Sam Austin Querrey takes the trash out in the 3rd round with a bread stick.
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