how long does he take to serve again?Someone, who can construct imaginary stories about Rafa better than you.
how long does he take to serve again?Someone, who can construct imaginary stories about Rafa better than you.
There goes the dummy with the grandiose speeches which amount to wet gas.
Clueless as ever as well. What this AO proved was your colossal bias. If Nadal had done what Federer just did, you would have claimed to the skies about the MTO's and the miraculous healing.
Wouldn't you, Jazzy_Hands?
You've been pwned by your own stupidity. Keep learning, dummo.
Yeah, and since they will be at it, maybe also point out instances where Nadal beat Fed thanks to strategic MTOs.i couldnt be bothered but im sure someone will
You are a "predictor" now? Better han BertieB, right? Nobody predicts this, dummo. You just got lucky. What was your position on Nadal's 2013 comeback? I really don't care. Go to sleep, son. You've trolled enough today.I have predicted that Federer will be coming strong after his long layoff ever since he got injured in that Wimbledon SF against Raonic (as opposed to most people on these boards), so not only am I not surprised that he did, but I also didn't have to resort to any last minute "miraculous healing" theories.
You have no idea what you are blabbing about, but that is hardly surprising, Salty.
i couldnt be bothered but im sure someone will
so youre trying to say federer is a cheat and nadal isnt?Yeah, and since they will be at it, maybe also point out instances where Nadal beat Fed thanks to strategic MTOs.
My point (in case it gets lost on you, but surely will get lost in Jazzy_Hands's vast neuronal cemetary/tundra of a so-called brain), is that Fed did admit to cheating. Just like Nadal admitted to doing likewise when he talked about the on-court coaching.
The Federer Sister of Mercy act whose perennial virtue is diabolically ravaged by Human Monster Nadal act has grown stale. Fed got to 18 cheating, and the sooner you accept he is human too the better it will be for everyone involved.
You have poor reading skills.so youre trying to say federer is a cheat and nadal isnt?
i know i know,nadal is a career criminal but because fed gets a parking ticket, nadals misdemeanours are exhoneratedThat is not necessary.
The topic has been exhausted in detail and anyone, who is interested in it, could find the necessary information, if he so chooses.
It is just another way of the trolls like Salty to start the same tired circular argument over and over again.
You are a "predictor" now? Better han BertieB, right? Nobody predicts this, dummo. You just got lucky. What was your position on Nadal's 2013 comeback? I really don't care. Go to sleep, son. You've trolled enough today.
so nadal is a cheat?You have poor reading skills.
Fed did what Nadal and Djoko has been secretly waging against players for years.
Other than fed fans, no one wanted to call it "cheating". Now that Fed smartened up and understood the value of MTO, here comes the "cheating" experts.
I am so glad to have witnessed Fed take it to Djokodal and his fans. This leveled up the "cheating" field, nicely.
i know i know,nadal is a career criminal but because fed gets a parking ticket, nadals misdemeanours are exhonerated
Yes, all your posts are definitely pubic. Federer is completely clean and a saint and Nadal just uses microdosing and is the devil personified.Unsurprisingly, you are reverting to your usual self (well it is a little changed, I believe, but it is still you): ignorance and profanity.
So I got lucky with my prediction about Federer, but I also got lucky about my prediction about Nadal (for which Mustard now is getting what he deserves)?
Hmmmmmmmm.
All my posts here are pubic, so anyone can check on my predictions and unsurprisingly will find that they are mostly accurate (certainly when it comes to general trends they are spot on).
So, the one who needs to take a break and have a rest is you Salty.
how long does he take to serve again?
Why are you so salty man? For once, Federer raised his game and gave Nadal the tough loss instead of the other way around, not the end of the world. Lots of positive signs for Rafa.It did help him in the end, didn't it, dummy? No worries. As I said, Federer is incapable of cheating. Swiss people never cheated anyone out of their hard earned money or gold. Most honest country on the face of the Earth.
He was getting his palms read by Jazz_Hands.Fed was off the court for 10 minutes:
Yes, all your posts are definitely pubic. Federer is completely clean and a saint and Nadal just uses microdosing and is the devil personified.
Nobody can take you seriously.
But please, point me to your prediction of the final. I can't wait to see you predicting what happened. You should be wearing a cape at this point, you're so good!
Jazz_Handsssssss!!!!!
I really am not. I'm genuinely happy Fed won. Even if I'd preferred Rafa to win. This conversation is not as much about Federer for me, believe me.Why are you so salty man? For once, Federer raised his game and gave Nadal the tough loss instead of the other way around, not the end of the world. Lots of positive signs for Rafa.
You patting yourself on the back for predicting stuff is hilarious. People say a lot of crap throughout their lives and sometimes they are kind of right. It's called "chance".Reading comprehension.
You don't do it.
Poor Salty.
I really am not. I'm genuinely happy Fed won. Even if I'd preferred Rafa to win. This conversation is not as much about Federer for me, believe me.
You patting yourself on the back for predicting stuff is hilarious. People say a lot of crap throughout their lives and sometimes they are kind of right. It's called "chance".
Care to predict the rest of the year, Madamme Jazz_Handsova?
On the contrary. This AO proved you wrong on many levels. One of them being... Fed cheats. Sorry to tell you, man. Fed took two huge strategic MTOs and won the tournament. Was that a part of your "predictions"?That is correct.
It is about what are you gong to do on these boards after one of your main reasons to troll here are being taken away from you.
It is also about doing wrong choices (again) etc.
On the contrary. This AO proved you wrong on many levels. One of them being... Fed cheats. Sorry to tell you, man. Fed took two huge strategic MTOs and won the tournament. Was that a part of your "predictions"?
You don't predict anything. Your delusions of grandeur are ridiculous. It explains your reaction to BertieB's thread though. Want to have the monopoly on divinations, eh?I do it all the time, but not at your request, Salty.
Tennis is part of my life (unlike yours and no, trolling on an internet forum doesn't count) and I will be participating and giving my predictions in the future as well.
I know it is tiring when people accuse Rafa with no evidence of doping, and although I think he has taken a few questionable MTO's(mainly 2-3 that I can think of, which isn't a lot in 13 years), he is hardly unique in that regard. Just don't sink to their level and try to use the same "logic" with Federer.I really am not. I'm genuinely happy Fed won. Even if I'd preferred Rafa to win. This conversation is not as much about Federer for me, believe me.
Yeah. Change the channel. Fed cheated, dude. The tennis world has awaken to that fact. That's why this thread is here. And that's why you are in this thread. HAHA.I see you are going through some self-therapy sessions.
Misplaced self-improvement, as some might say.
You don't predict anything. Your delusions of grandeur are ridiculous. It explains your reaction to BertieB's thread though. Want to have the monopoly on divinations, eh?
Link your predictions prior to the AO, why don't you Jazzy_Hands?
Yes, true. But I'm talking to Tennis_Hands here...I know it is tiring when people accuse Rafa with no evidence of doping, and although I think he has taken a few questionable MTO's(mainly 2-3 that I can think of, which isn't a lot in 13 years), he is hardly unique in that regard. Just don't sink to their level and try to use the same "logic" with Federer.
Yeah. Change the channel. Fed cheated, dude. The tennis world has awaken to that fact. That's why this thread is here. And that's why you are in this thread. HAHA.
The tennis world has awaken to this:
A wake-up call (according to the topic):
The payoff for taking a strategic MTO is most likely to happen later in the 5th set, dummy. You are illogically deriving an effect based on an outcome without being able to compare the potential outcome in the alternate scenario.
If Fed hadn't taken the MTO he would have one down a double break. Is that preferable to a single break, dummy?
I don't even know why I'm talking to you. No IQ to back up your big mouth, Jazz_Hands. Now, why don't you go pick on Mustard to pump yourself up and leave me alone.
That, too, was a strategic loss of serve !Immediately after that Federer went down a break.
Senior Citizenerer dispensation...seventh match and third 5-setter afterer a drastic hiatus to recuperate. Groinerer is allowed MTO to heal his GOATy upper thigh.
Senior Citizenerer dispensation...seventh match and third 5-setter afterer a drastic hiatus to recuperate. Groinerer is allowed MTO to heal his GOATy upper thigh.
Clever defence but it doesn't work that way.The main point people are trying to make is that cause Federer barely uses strategic MTOs, doesn't make it more defendable just cause Nadal or Djokovic supposedly in the past have used them alot more along with alot other players. It doesn't matter how many times they have done it compared to federer. Federer did the same, and that is the point.
Clever defence but it doesn't work that way.
So for you Federer uses strategic MTOs but the others "supposedly" have done so. So you've already decided Fed's was fake but the others could all be genuine.
SImilarly, it doesn't matter how many thousand times Nadal has beaten Federer, Federer beat Nadal once so it's even Stevens, right ? 23 == 12 ?
I'm talking from the forums point of view, people have always claimed they use stragetic MTOs and make a big hussle about it.
So I'm not saying they were genuine MTOs, just what people have claimed.
So you are actually not saying anything, you are just parroting what some people have claimed? Well, great post, man, great post, keep them coming!
Fed started to take MTOs a long time ago, but his fans haven't revealed them.
which he Lost. Try again. Here, at least Fed didnt run off to the locker room to just to keep your opponent waiting. Fed has done that once against "Davydenko".
But I like the fact that Fed took a MTO and won the AO final.
which he Lost. Try again. Here, at least Fed didnt run off to the locker room to just to keep your opponent waiting. Fed has done that once against "Davydenko".
But I like the fact that Fed took a MTO and won the AO final.
You know too little about your hero.
Federer took an MTO at the AO 2017 SF just because Wawrinka took one and WON.
Federer took an MTO before the 5th set against Rafael Nadal at AO 2017 final and WON.
Because Nadal doesn't take an MTO if he doesn't need it.Thanks for compiling this.
Again, I am glad Fed took "MTO comfort breaks" and got the job done for once.
If the rule for time between serves dont apply why should taking a MTO be such a bad thing.
"Nadal called for a trainer at 2-5 down against Federer with Federer serving during this year’s Roland Garros final and proceeded to win the set. This was nothing new for Federer, Nadal had done the same thing at Monte Carlo 2006 and Hamburg 2008 with the same result: Federer blowing a substantial lead. His medical time out’s are frequent and often seemingly unnecessary. Yet Nadal seems largely immune to criticism from journalists and fans."
Fed just got there. Give Fed more time, he will get better at this.
Because Nadal doesn't take an MTO if he doesn't need it.
"Nadal ... His medical time out’s are frequent and often seemingly unnecessary. Yet Nadal seems largely immune to criticism from journalists and fans."
Facts not opinions.Learn to read. And its not my words. No point arguing with me.
From the same article below is someones comment from 2011
"Logic PERMALINK
July 16, 2011 9:04 pm
I agree completely with this post. I really do like Rafa, I think he’s a great tennis player, but he calls MTO’s at the most inappropriate times during the matches. It’s ridiculous."
Facts not opinions.