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If you are afraid of silicon, you shouldnt never go to the beach because all that sand is made of silicon LOLI told you it is silicone, not silicon. Silicone is used in breast implants.
If you are afraid of silicon, you shouldnt never go to the beach because all that sand is made of silicon LOLI told you it is silicone, not silicon. Silicone is used in breast implants.
I know how embarrassing ughI hit with Curren's Kneissl model back in the day; only 'stiff' in comparison with wood racquets. Wasn't it amazing how many ski companies jumped on the tennis bandwagon?
Oops I meant that for here sheesh I’m batting high tonight lordI 'liked' your post three times as much as a usual post!
No, it is not. There is a difference between silica and silicon which anyone who did high school science should understand the difference between...you shouldnt never go to the beach because all that sand is made of silicon LOL
This is a valid point and I agree 10000000 %. The PS classic is a wonderful sought out frame . And many a pros have and still play with this awesome stick. I think this racket had a 72ra , but it was a misleading spec. The Kevlar used in the layup was what made this racket play and hit so well . The numbers say stiff but if you have ever payed with it , the Kevlar breathes when you hit the ball in a amazing way . So it states 72 but feels like 52.. which I don’t care what the numbers say if that’s the situation . If it “ feels soft” I’m gonna enjoy it more than it feeling hard and stiff. But this is just me .The "all pros use low RA-dogma" is obviously wrong. Take the PS Classic for instance.
still they refuse to offer just one frame in a mid or mid plus with an Ra on the lower scale
I was curious too ! I was excited to see but I was able to find the info on his racket when he still used the 90 sq inch pro staff online for pro st@#$ Tennis frames that give you specs . I was surprised by the ra I thought he played with a softer frame that would be in the low 60,s not 58 RA.
Dang it ! But surely they sit around in a room and try and come up with the latest and greatest . And they surely have to know that with any new line they are coming out with one of them will not sell hardly at all ...almost like a filler song on an album by any artist .. so instead of that frame being a huge power granny stick that will be double the price of all the other ones .. happens with most manufacturers every year , give us a “throw away swan song midsize with a absurdly low ra so we can all be still and shut up for a season .. I’m kidding but it’s actualky not a bad idea .If the demand was high enough this type of frame would be sold. That's just simple business sense. Unfortunatly it's simply not high enough. As much as people on here are quite vocal and believe that the demand is there, the reality is that the TT mid-frame diehards (myself included) actually make up a very small number of the racquet buying public.
Now vlad does bring up a great point here ,The 58RA you see there is for a USED racquet.
It is entirely possible that it was 65RA stock spec when he first got it from Wilson.
The racquet stiffness will decrease, with the number of re-strings and matches played.
Wasn't that the reason why Del Potro held on to his old racquets for so long?
Wasn't that the reason why Del Potro held on to his old racquets for so long?
WHAT IS THE DARN RA OF THIS FRAME? Don't post anymore unless you have the answer.
Bay list no 13323543392 also has lead tape under the hoop plus silicone in the handle (not sure how much in each case), note how the beige leather grip + butt cap is different from the retail version (which is black) and certainly not identical. Now the retail laver version does not have leather (it's black and synthetic) and the buttcap is different. Does your frame have a beige leather grip with the reddish silicone buttcap? Just curious.Hello all,
I was lucky enough to receive an actual Roger Federer frame through my contact at the Wilson pro shop in Chicago IL yes this means it was the laver cup edition and would like to share a little bit as to his actual playing frame.
I will have to admit that the retail version we can all but in stores is very smillar and probably as close as you can get to the actual pros frames with a few minor modifications. As we all know top players use pro stock racquets not available to the general public and just simply endorse or promote and sponser the user friendly racquets we see for sale in retailers around the world.
After stripping the racquet, I was able to conclude the following specs and modifications as his actual playing specs.
His frame is a Wilson prostsff RF97 autograph in 4 3/8 grip (leather priority one leather grip and custom molded Handle) with a Wilson pro conform over grip and of course he uses the old school power pads to help preserve the playability of his natural gut main strings.
His only modifications to the weight of the racquet is he placed 3 grams of lead at 12 oclock in the tip and he had silicone injected in the Handle. To help figure out exactly how much of silicone is in the Handle, keep in mind that unstrung the racquet actual weighs 345 grams (without overgrip and strings ). When I get it all strung up with the power pads later this week I can give string weight as well. Thanks all and I can figure out how to post pictures I will.
that number doesn't come up for me. Did you type it correctly?Bay list no 13323543392 also has lead tape under the hoop plus silicone in the handle (not sure how much in each case), note how the beige leather grip + butt cap is different from the retail version (which is black) and certainly not identical. Now the retail laver version does not have leather (it's black and synthetic) and the buttcap is different. Does your frame have a beige leather grip with the reddish silicone buttcap? Just curious.
Positive , the seller is pro_stock_rackets though you are correct in the sense that the search does not return a result. It's a black rf 97 autograph for $1499 (12 images). Hope it helps.that number doesn't come up for me. Did you type it correctly?
Sincere apologies, it is 113323543392. My badthat number doesn't come up for me. Did you type it correctly?
If this racket is really one of Federer's (not sure if we are claiming that or not) then why does it have a Wilson leather grip? I thought that he uses P1 leather.
Hence my hunch (wild guess lol) that they (Wilson Pro Room or his customizer) took the older HPS/nSix.One style buttcaps off his old KFactor PJ sticks and put them on his new ones after coloring the small red square black! I can see clear as day that the buttcaps on his current "Burn FST" PJ are in fact the HPS/nCode style caps. Perhaps he wanted some (any) piece of the old sticks on the new???He's also fairly superstitious - that was a factor as well.
If the demand was high enough this type of frame would be sold. That's just simple business sense. Unfortunatly it's simply not high enough. As much as people on here are quite vocal and believe that the demand is there, the reality is that the TT mid-frame diehards (myself included) actually make up a very small number of the racquet buying public.
If the demand was high enough this type of frame would be sold. That's just simple business sense. Unfortunatly it's simply not high enough. As much as people on here are quite vocal and believe that the demand is there, the reality is that the TT mid-frame diehards (myself included) actually make up a very small number of the racquet buying public.
I've been very skeptical of that seller's pro stocks for a while... Specifically what's mentioned above about the lack of P1 leather, trap door buttcaps and in some cases decal placement.
Most sketchy, they recently listed a Burn FST 95 saying it was del Potro's... Can't recall their exact wording - not that he played it but was prepared for him or one he would have used... Only problem is the frame is clearly (throat notch near grip) a retail FST95 *not* a Six.One 95 mold. I was about to email the seller and ask WTF, but the listing already changed to say "Top 100 Player" & removed delPo's name...
On the Fed frame, why would P1 have added lead tape but a brown Wilson leather?! The lead is to equalize weight/balance which would differ with P1 vs Wilson leather. I just don't buy that the Wilson Pro Room put that lead and leather on prior to sending to P1.
They also have listed a "pro stock" RF85... Are there honestly pros out there requesting/getting prostock versions of the RF85?!?! Sure its possible, but I really doubt it.
No, I think legitimate questions are being raised. For example, I missed the fact that feds racquets don't have a trap door from what I have seen. Ultimately, it's up to the buyer to make an informed decision. Of course there is a lot of information to process but that's called doing ones due diligence.I fear that all we are doing on this forum is creating the formula for people to defraud unsuspecting fans. I am sure the next versions of the Pro stock fed copy will have P1 leather and lead. Why not add $20 worth of parts to a $200 racket and charge $1,500?
Actually who else in the ATP uses RF97A other than Fed and Dimitrov?
Don't think it's a real one; he uses P1 leatherIf this racket is really one of Federer's (not sure if we are claiming that or not) then why does it have a Wilson leather grip? I thought that he uses P1 leather.
why does that grip look so big ? I thought he used tiny grip size like size 3Don't think it's a real one; he uses P1 leather
Is P1 leather available for purchase online somewhere?
Hello all,
I was lucky enough to receive an actual Roger Federer frame through my contact at the Wilson pro shop in Chicago IL yes this means it was the laver cup edition and would like to share a little bit as to his actual playing frame.
I will have to admit that the retail version we can all but in stores is very smillar and probably as close as you can get to the actual pros frames with a few minor modifications. As we all know top players use pro stock racquets not available to the general public and just simply endorse or promote and sponser the user friendly racquets we see for sale in retailers around the world.
After stripping the racquet, I was able to conclude the following specs and modifications as his actual playing specs.
His frame is a Wilson prostsff RF97 autograph in 4 3/8 grip (leather priority one leather grip and custom molded Handle) with a Wilson pro conform over grip and of course he uses the old school power pads to help preserve the playability of his natural gut main strings.
His only modifications to the weight of the racquet is he placed 3 grams of lead at 12 oclock in the tip and he had silicone injected in the Handle. To help figure out exactly how much of silicone is in the Handle, keep in mind that unstrung the racquet actual weighs 345 grams (without overgrip and strings ). When I get it all strung up with the power pads later this week I can give string weight as well. Thanks all and I can figure out how to post pictures I will.
Nope.
is p1 leather better than normal Wilson leather ?Nope.
Figured when it didn't come up on the ol' google.
is p1 leather better than normal Wilson leather ?