Federer has practically secured YE#1
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kevaninho
Hall of Fame
No he wasn't playing just as well. Anyone can see theres a world of difference.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Yeah just meant masters / biggest point events outside of the USO from now until the actual end of the year. I don't see him playing all 4 either but skipping half seemed like a break to me. Just semantics though really.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
If Fed wins the USO too, something tragic has to happen for him not to be no.1 by default with 3 slams to Nadal's 1.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
On topic, I don't think Fed needs to be no.1 again. He is the best no.1 player already of the Open Era and Nadal is never going to catch his 302 weeks at no.1.
Fed has been ranked no.1 long enough. He now has to focus on adding more slams as long as he is still playing awesome.
Fed has been ranked no.1 long enough. He now has to focus on adding more slams as long as he is still playing awesome.
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
Three this year would have been a freak occurrence at the beginning of the year, but with two already it is now a very reasonable possibility.
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Deleted member 743561
Guest
Empty words at the time. What a difference a year-and-a-half makes.
sdont
Legend
Remind me, who is the leader of the race at the moment?
"he has entered" Thanks for bringing water to my mill.
sabrelight
New User
Do not understand this.
4000 points up for grabs over next 6 weeks. I would think who does best in America ends year no.1
xFullCourtTenniSx
Hall of Fame
No, you didn't. But I just threw in more information to see the big picture that we might have the year where more people have had the #1 spot in a season than have had it for a long time. Or at the very least, it's been a long time where so many people had a legitimate look at the spot. YE #1 depends 100% on Federer's schedule. If he decides to push, it's his. If he's looking to save, it's far less likely, but still well within the realm of possibilities. For Rafa, he more or less just needs to show up and for YE#1 he just has to pray that Federer doesn't. This could very well be the most exciting year for the rankings in a long time. It's usually just been handoff. Last year at least had a nice setting where the winner of the last match of the year gets the top spot.
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Rafa the King
Hall of Fame
While we speak of Fedals for No.1, there's another scenario shaping up - Novak losing his 4th by USO. That would mean tougher RF16/QF, potentially with the top 4.
This, he is defending 1000 very cheap Canada points. Very likely to be #5 pre USO. Fed or Rafa QF
ANDYbhGENIUS
Professional
You too have your head way too deep/far up the stats "department" - with your logic prior to or even after the Australian Open you would have ridiculed someone who said Federer may be in contention for number One again. "Because the numbers and historical context do not support it", YET.
Djoker may be out for a while, so Nadal has good chances if he stays injury free, and also because he is much younger than Fed.
Jackuar
Hall of Fame
In current form, I wouldn't be surprised if he loses to anybody in the QF. But the Fedal matchup gives that additional incentive always. If any other those two manage to beat him once or twice, or even one each, we can see how he can bounce back from that back to back losses vs those two in terms of confidence. Its been quite a while since both Rafa/Fed beat him few times at a stretch. So far this year he's managed to escape them by losing earlier. But the HC is Novak's favourable surface, so we can expect him to still be in the draw up until QF.This, he is defending 1000 very cheap Canada points. Very likely to be #5 pre USO. Fed or Rafa QF
Jackuar
Hall of Fame
Which will obviously take care of the rankings even if he doesn't chase it.
Rago
Hall of Fame
I expect Federer to give it his absolute best at USO & WTF and target wins at Cincy and Basel also. Not sure about the rest of his schedule but I'd be happier if he reviews it again before the upcoming HC season and stays selective with participation.
Roger should skip Montreal so he doesn't feel fatigued by the time he reaches New York; maybe pass on Shanghai or Bercy as well if he wants to stay well rested for London.
That leaves us with him probably playing in the United States Outdoor and European Indoor Seasons.
Roger should skip Montreal so he doesn't feel fatigued by the time he reaches New York; maybe pass on Shanghai or Bercy as well if he wants to stay well rested for London.
That leaves us with him probably playing in the United States Outdoor and European Indoor Seasons.
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Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
"Very cheap"?This, he is defending 1000 very cheap Canada points. Very likely to be #5 pre USO. Fed or Rafa QF
Neil_Fedfan
Rookie
As a Fed fan if he were to face Djokovic (or any other top player for the matter) I'd want him to face as early as possible in the tournamentThis, he is defending 1000 very cheap Canada points. Very likely to be #5 pre USO. Fed or Rafa QF
But I doubt Djokovic will lose #5 by USO if he recovers from the elbow injury by the time Montreal comes around since he is just too good on HC (specially the slower ones) to be counted out.
If Fed wins USO and let's say Cincy too, he can probably afford a minimalist schedule post USO and coast to YE#1 with a Shanghai, Basel and WTF win/strong result.
If loses USO I imagine he would assess the rankings and then possibly go all out at Shanghai, Basel, Paris, WTF to get YE#1 as his last shot probably as can't see him sweeping everything but clay in 2018 like he has this year (think he will remain strong but not 2017 strong).
If loses USO I imagine he would assess the rankings and then possibly go all out at Shanghai, Basel, Paris, WTF to get YE#1 as his last shot probably as can't see him sweeping everything but clay in 2018 like he has this year (think he will remain strong but not 2017 strong).
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
And I didn't- almost no one did. However, you can't deny that Federer is better than Nadal after Wimbledon. It's always been the case. Just check the amount of titles or runner ups each has at Cincinatti, US Open, Canada, Shanghai, WTF, and Paris. Federer has been better.
What do you want me to use instead of facts? Opinions? "Federer has practically secured YE#1 because I think he's great?"
No. All I have are facts, so that's all I can use.
BlackSilver
Semi-Pro
Geniuses like me watch what is going on between the four lines. And they realize the obvious thing: Nadal isn't playing anything special. He got a bunch of easy draws and took advantage of it. Three tournaments, got two easy draws. Nothing magical or miraculous, just some luck. Nothing special. On clay doesn't matter if he is playing better or not, because, you know, he won't be playing on clay in north america.
Now, geniuses like you don't care about what's going on between four lines. They care about results. And that's probably they can see what is going on between the four lines, but are not clever enough to interpret it.
BlackSilver
Semi-Pro
A world? Then it shouldn't be difficult for you to show it. Clay doesn't count
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
will the tequilla prophecy be fulfilled ?!Empty words at the time. What a difference a year-and-a-half makes.
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
So you cant see that his results in all masters and slams this year have been better than last year? Not to mention his actual play is a lot better. I don't need to try and 'show' anything. Ive watched him enough to know he was pathetic last year.
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will the tequilla prophecy be fulfilled ?!
BlackSilver
Semi-Pro
Yes, you DO have to show everything. The burden of the proof is on the one who made the statement.
I already countered this argument of results. Another poster did too. Keeping insisting on it won't make it valid all of sudden. Actual play argument is devoid of substance if you don't explain it.
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