ohiostate124
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I wonder if the 90 would allow Fed to be more effective against Djokovic today.
Sure it was........ Or it could have both equally hand in hand.He was a little better. Fed’s decline was more than Nole’s improvement.
14-16 Djokovic 6 slams
04-06 Federer 8 slams
Probably not...I wonder if the 90 would allow Fed to be more effective against Djokovic today.
Maybe. But Federer actually changed his racket and lost his deadly FH as a result. But he got more easy power on serve and shanked less BH so he was effective vs the top 10. Cost him vs Nole.[
Sure it was........ Or it could have both equally hand in hand.
Any comments on this??Probably not...
Only things which can help him are building more muscular power in upper body to hit through nole's defense, and not choking on set/break point
So why was Fed in serious trouble against Benneteau in 2012 but annihilated everyone in the draw up to the final in 2015?2012 Fed could actually hit powerful FHs with depth, angles, spin etc. 14/15 baseline game was poor compared to 2003-2012 version.
Back injury, which troubled in the Malisse match as well.So why was Fed in serious trouble against Benneteau in 2012 but annihilated everyone in the draw up to the final in 2015?
Also, Fed’s performance in the SF against Muzziah was glorious tennis—one of his greatest imo.
So why was Fed in serious trouble against Benneteau in 2012 but annihilated everyone in the draw up to the final in 2015?
Also, Fed’s performance in the SF against Muzziah was glorious tennis—one of his greatest imo.
I shy away from these comparisons across time, since there are so many variables. But Fed was two points away from being kicked out in the third round of WB 2012. Was that really a better performance than 2015?So why was Fed in serious trouble against Benneteau in 2012 but annihilated everyone in the draw up to the final in 2015?
Also, Fed’s performance in the SF against Muzziah was glorious tennis—one of his greatest imo.
Yes. He beat Djokovic in 2012 and controlled a lot of points with his FH.I shy away from these comparisons across time, since there are so many variables. But Fed was two points away from being kicked out in the third round of WB 2012. Was that really a better performance than 2015?
But two points that went the other way and he wouldn’t even have had a chance to play Nole.Yes. He beat Djokovic in 2012 and controlled a lot of points with his FH.
I shudder to think about how bad his return would be if he was still using the 90.I wonder if the 90 would allow Fed to be more effective against Djokovic today.
Not really relevant to his match up with Nole. Anything can happen in early rounds on grass.But two points that went the other way and he wouldn’t even have had a chance to play Nole.
Even an visibly under par Djokovic was one point away from probably leading 2012 WB Fed 2-1 in sets. It's not like 2012 Fed was unplayable or something even for that version of Djokovic.But two points that went the other way and he wouldn’t even have had a chance to play Nole.
Your double standards and hypocrisy is astonishing. Not even subtle about itEven an visibly under par Djokovic was one point away from probably leading 2012 WB Fed 2-1 in sets. It's not like 2012 Fed was unplayable or something even for that version of Djokovic.
Just being very honest KINGROGER.Your double standards and hypocrisy is astonishing. Not even subtle about it
What about this year's WrestleMania poisoned brother ? You feeling the electricity ?Bow down to the king.
People underestimate Djokovic's improvement under Becker. Especially regarding the Federer matchup. Much better serve, better dealing with the Fed's backhand slice, smarter and better passing, overall smarter game and much more tools for answering the Federer variety.
Gentle reminder:
“I think I’m a better player now than when I was at 24 because I’ve practised for another 10 years and I’ve got 10 years more experience,” Federer said. “Maybe I don’t have the confidence level that I had at 24 when I was winning 40 matches in a row, but I feel like I hit a bigger serve, my backhand is better, my forehand is still as good as it’s ever been, I volley better than I have in the past. I think I’ve had to adapt to a new generation of players again.” (August 2015)
He improved his adapting to and dealing with slices. Smashes as well.Maybe. But Federer actually changed his racket and lost his deadly FH as a result. But he got more easy power on serve and shanked less BH so he was effective vs the top 10. Cost him vs Nole.
I agree. He even said so himself after destroying Nadal in IW 2017.
Djokovic played the same game with some serve and volley improvements.
Is there any reason to say the opposite when he's active? Bad self-motivation and it'd encourage his opponents.I still don’t understand why he said that, in my opinion it seems obvious that’s not true. When I watch his FH in 2015 and compare it to his FH in his younger days, I see a huge difference. It’s like night and day.
He did make that statement at Cincy which was like a perfect tournament for Federer and everything was clicking.I still don’t understand why he said that, in my opinion it seems obvious that’s not true. When I watch his FH in 2015 and compare it to his FH in his younger days, I see a huge difference. It’s like night and day.
Is there any reason to say the opposite when he's active? Bad self-motivation and it'd encourage his opponents.
He did make that statement at Cincy which was like a perfect tournament for Federer and everything was clicking.
Whatever man.At least you accepted that you play with maths, which automatically says that you work to prove wrong things true....
@KINGROGER @True Fanerer @Sport this guy is exposed lol xD...
And anyways, roflmao at me not being able to play with maths, man I'm a businessman and numbers are there with me during my whole work time....
But I don't possess mental attitude of playing with Numbers to do bad stuff...
Unlike you.
Sorry to tell you that mate
Fed fans insist everything be reduced to the eye test, but only if your eyes see what theirs see!At least I know how to ''play with maths''.
You just can't write anything more than ''player X is better because I said so''.
The fundamentals were the same (baseline game)He improved his adapting to and dealing with slices. Smashes as well.
You have to be blind man to not see how worse Fed’s FH was in 14/15 than 12.Fed fans insist everything be reduced to the eye test, but only if your eyes see what theirs see!
From a certain POV. You also have to be blind person to not see how crazily good Djokovic neutralized Fed's FH in 14/15.You have to be blind man to not see how worse Fed’s FH was in 14/15 than 12.
What about this year's WrestleMania poisoned broth
What does Djokovic have to do with Fed being slower running to his FH.., dumping routing FHs into the net and having less depth, power and angles from his FH? He didn’t neutralise anytjing. He played the same game as always.From a certain POV. You also have to be blind person to not see how crazily good Djokovic neutralized Fed's FH in 14/15.
Yes he was still a basliner I agree. Just tried to make less physical knowing he was getting older and could not play the same game as he did 3 years before.The fundamentals were the same (baseline game)
Glorious serving. Average from the baseline. The Benneteau match is just called having a bad day, like Djoker vs Anderson in 2015 and countless other examples.