vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
That’s just not it at all. You play with what you like and what feels good. Your level no mater what your age or game is down to good foot work and mechanics
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Only if you don't play competitively. I don't particularly like the Pure Aero and to me, it doesn't feel particularly nice, but hell, I will win alot more matches in my 4.5/5.0 leagues with one of those than with an old school 95sq" 18x20 tiny sweetspot racquet.
rafa_prestige89
Professional
Pretty sure good tennis is just down to good footwork and technique, and not to the size or weight of the racquet...yet, we'll always have lazy boys claiming that the "bigger the better".
Addxyz
Hall of Fame
Not going to buy if no pro like Fed doesn't use it. /s
Awesome.
off topic - has anyone got a response from people in the know on how “limited” the 2.0 is supposed to be? Lol
In 2 year's time, nobody will be talking about this racquet. It's just a fad.
Doesn’t this apply to all of the current retail racquets? lol
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I was playing in tournaments with a 90sq and had a pretty decent ranking and won a lot of matches.
McGradey
Hall of Fame
Fantastic frame for high level players.
Too challenging for me to use against good players who put me on the back foot. On my good days, I played at a very good level with the PT2.0, but on my off days or when conditions were challenging (wind), my level dropped significantly and I really struggled.
I've gone back to my Blade. It doesn't feel as good as the PT2.0, but my results in match play made the decision a no-brainer.
I do miss hitting topspin lobs with the PT2.0 though. I felt like I couldn't miss with that shot. Laser pointer accuracy.
Too challenging for me to use against good players who put me on the back foot. On my good days, I played at a very good level with the PT2.0, but on my off days or when conditions were challenging (wind), my level dropped significantly and I really struggled.
I've gone back to my Blade. It doesn't feel as good as the PT2.0, but my results in match play made the decision a no-brainer.
I do miss hitting topspin lobs with the PT2.0 though. I felt like I couldn't miss with that shot. Laser pointer accuracy.
Kal-El 34
Hall of Fame
We will see. The original PT has been around for a long time. To each their own. But I’d wager there will be more of them out there than you think
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vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
You’re mistaken
nohandedbackhand
Semi-Pro
Yeah, since up until this 2.0 release no one ever talked about the pro tour 630 or pt57a.. It was so nice of Head to bring this back to remind everyone about the mold that nobody has used since the 90’s...
Subway Tennis
Legend
Which player is it?
Kal-El 34
Hall of Fame
Won’t say but he does follow the boards here from time to time. Good dude though. Played PT10 for the longest time and been searching since. He likes the 2.0 better than the 57a
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vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
2.0 is more powerful than 57A
Kal-El 34
Hall of Fame
Yea he went into thinking the frame was going to be a let down but dialed in with it immediately. He been tinkering for awhile so was happy for him haha
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Pete Sampras was playing tournaments with a 85sq" and won lots of matches too.
However, the game has moved on from those days.
Starsailor84
Rookie
Even if I said "I would bet some solid money, that Sampras could still beat you comfortably with his 85 sq. inch racket", would still be a less ridiculous statement. And I think you are on the wrong thread. Why wait for 2 years, forget PT 2.0 right now, and move on as well.
Sampras is a 14 slam winner. I'm not. Neither are you, or that other guy. His 85sq" racquet was an impediment to him winning more and continuing his career, which he admitted many years after he retired. When he did return for those that tournament matches, he chose a Babolat to use!
burma_shave
New User
He was ranked 120 in the world, and he has to buy his own racquets??
To be sure it's a special kind of player that can play his best tennis with 350g+ 95sq in frame.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
This was recent my friend
burma_shave
New User
And Federer only switched to his current 97 sq in racquet in 2014. But he did switch.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Okay it was 2018. Things have changed radically. We aren’t even allowed to play tournaments now no matter what racquet you choose to use
rafa_prestige89
Professional
Even if he changed racquet, it would be to a 95 or 97 sq'' max, just like the Pro Tour 2.0
He was using a Babolat Pure Storm Tour, a 98sq" 16x20 when he returned to playing.
rafa_prestige89
Professional
What ATP tournament was that? Or it was just a worthless exhibition after he retired?He was using a Babolat Pure Storm Tour, a 98sq" 16x20 when he returned to playing.
Anton
Legend
Mike come on, to try to say that at club level, where there is soooo many more ways to win, someone definitely can't click better with more mass rather than less is kinda silly.
Anton
Legend
It doesn't matter, the difference between a 98 and 96-something is negligible.
The difference varies depending on the racquet, shape of the head, drill pattern etc. The PST (98) was known for its circular head and huge sweetspot. In comparison, the PT 2.0 (95) has a tiny sweetspot for its headsize and a more oval head shape. The difference is like night and day between those 2 racquets.
Boubi
Professional
He should try the prestige mid
PistolPete23
Hall of Fame
Counter-example: Marat Safin, who still uses a sub 90 Prestige when he plays. Plenty of players currently on tour using a 95 head size and a lot of lead, including Djokovic. To say the gear is not a factor at all in today’s game would be ignorant. It’s true that stroke mechanics have evolved to more extreme grips and whippy swing paths that would be less compatible with smaller head sizes, but a 95 sq in head is not obsolete and there’s virtually no difference between that and a 97 or 98 sq in. By adding a little lead to 3 and 9, you can significantly expand the sweet spot in the PT 2.0.
Kal-El 34
Hall of Fame
Adding lead doesn't increase the sweet spot, it just makes the racquet more stable on off center hits.
I put could 20g of lead on each side of a PS85. That won't turn the sweetspot into the size of the sweetspot on a Pure Aero. The racquet's physical limitations see to that.
PistolPete23
Hall of Fame
You're wrong. If you want to be technical, the sweet spot is actually a single point in ALL racquets, called the point of percussion. It has no size and it's location depends on the way mass is distributed along the frame. When players talk about the size of the sweet spot, it has to do with how comfortable the racquet feels when the ball is slightly off-center, and just as you said, adding lead makes the racquet more stable on off-center hits. What does increased stability "feel" like? It equates to a larger sweet spot. Have you ever added lead at 3 and 9? I added 4g to the PT 2.0 and it definitely makes the sweet spot feel slightly bigger. Adding mass at the 3 and 9 location decreases both vibration amplitude and vibration frequency on off-center hits; again, this equates to a "larger" sweet spot.
Just LOL.
PistolPete23
Hall of Fame
Nice response Mikey Mike
. Let me know when you find out which part of my argument is incorrect.thisiscrazy
Rookie
Never seen someone have such a grudge against a tennis racquet before. A person, perhaps. A tennis racquet, strange.
sanister
Professional
PT2.0 are evil evil evil,lol
PistolPete23
Hall of Fame
Still waiting ...
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Wait, it is you, not the racket that wins the points???
Shiat, I have to rethink the whole thing...
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I’m only allowed to win points with my forehand
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Deadly FH!
rafa_prestige89
Professional
Great explanation, unfortunately it was too much for "the great" mike 841 to understand
He still thinks that "the bigger, the better"...
rafa_prestige89
Professional
Yes, but imagine if Safin used the Pure Drive, he would've won around 10 slams more! (sarcasm)
I don't have a grudge against the racquet - I played with a 6.1 for years. I just find it amusing that there seem to be minority of people who are in complete denial about the limitations of a racquet like the PT 2.0.
PistolPete23
Hall of Fame
Every racquet has limitations, even the Pure Aero. Nobody is asserting that the PT 2.0 is objectively the perfect stick. You can only choose what’s great for YOUR game, personally. To say you can’t have success competitively with the PT 2.0 is an incorrect generalization; maybe not for you, personally, but others could have great success.
Yeah, but you don't get a whole crowd of in denial apologists with say the Pure Aero. This Pure Aero is pretty stiff and hollow feeling....Sure is! Can it be a bit wild? Over the trees man! etc etc. Whereas with this PT 2.0, look at some of the replies. Bit hard work this racquet....It's just your bad footwork! You have no place using a racquet like this! Hey the sweetspot is really small...Nah, just add lots of lead it will be like a Big Bubba.....Nobody uses a 95 these days. Nonsense, I won the O50s 3.5 nationals using a 90!! etc etc.
The only objective review is the one below:
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