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ByeByePoly

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Is there is difference between the black and the natural. This is the best Multi I ever used I love the low power I can really swing out and keep the ball in the court yet very easy on my bad elbow. I have been using the natural but sometimes when you go to black it gets firmer

I have only played with natural 16g. Most of us on this thread were new to Velocity, and picked natural or black and stuck with it. Scotus did mention he likes black better as a cross, so he must have tried both as a cross.

What multis have you played? Comparisons? What racquet and what Velocity tension, guage?
 

KluddKalle

Semi-Pro
...but sometimes when you go to black it gets firmer

I've heard something along the lines "once you go black you never go back"...

Sorry, couldn't resist it. :)

I've yet to try the black but in my experience when the colour is on the outside (and wears off, not like poly that is dyed) it doesn't make that much difference.
I've only played with natural so far but bought a reel of black that I will try really soon. Will report back.
 

ByeByePoly

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I've heard something along the lines "once you go black you never go back"...

Sorry, couldn't resist it. :)

I've yet to try the black but in my experience when the colour is on the outside (and wears off, not like poly that is dyed) it doesn't make that much difference.
I've only played with natural so far but bought a reel of black that I will try really soon. Will report back.

"I've heard something along the lines "once you go black you never go back"..."

I have typed that here a half dozen times, and erased it every time. Once again you have a higher level of commitment. :p
 

ByeByePoly

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I've heard something along the lines "once you go black you never go back"...

Sorry, couldn't resist it. :)

I've yet to try the black but in my experience when the colour is on the outside (and wears off, not like poly that is dyed) it doesn't make that much difference.
I've only played with natural so far but bought a reel of black that I will try really soon. Will report back.

Both Velocity and @ByeByePoly :cool: are playing better at the 24 hour mark then we were right off the stringer. Maybe Velocity is like gut ... plays best right before it breaks. Hopefully that doesn't apply to my body.
 

KluddKalle

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I have like 14-15 hours on Velocity in one racquet and like 4-5 in my other. But in a little more than a week I'm going to kind of a training camp for 5 days playing up to 5 hours a day. So I'm thinking about restringing both (and two other back ups) just so I have fresh strings for this. Also, I'm pretty eager to try out the black colour.
 

ByeByePoly

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I have like 14-15 hours on Velocity in one racquet and like 4-5 in my other. But in a little more than a week I'm going to kind of a training camp for 5 days playing up to 5 hours a day. So I'm thinking about restringing both (and two other back ups) just so I have fresh strings for this. Also, I'm pretty eager to try out the black colour.

25 hours in 5 days ... again with the commitment theme. I'm going to mark you down as NOT OLD. I went to Newcombe's tennis ranch a couple of times, but never for 5 days. That was more about eating and drinking, interrupted by the occasional drill group.

Have fun ... report back on black Velocity ... or any trip details you wish to share on the internet. What happens on TW forums stays in TW forums... just like Vegas. :cool:
 

KluddKalle

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25 hours in 5 days ... again with the commitment theme. I'm going to mark you down as NOT OLD. I went to Newcombe's tennis ranch a couple of times, but never for 5 days. That was more about eating and drinking, interrupted by the occasional drill group.

Have fun ... report back on black Velocity ... or any trip details you wish to share on the internet. What happens on TW forums stays in TW forums... just like Vegas. :cool:

Lol! Not old or just in denial. I just turned 40 and my closest family got together and bought me a spot on this training camp with a former atp-pro (Björn Borg-era). I'm wondering how my body will react to that amount of tennis. I usually play 3 times a week, maybe 4 in the summer. But I'm in pretty good shape (can run 10k in 40min) so I'm more concerned about my wrists and elbows. But thanks to velocity I think I'll be ok. :)

Oh, I guess there will be some eating and drinking aswell. It's an all inclusive resort (with a spa and water park included). My wife and kids are coming with me so this will hopefully be one vacation that willl be hard to beat.
 

KluddKalle

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How about tension on the 16g. Compared to xone.. ?

Can't compare to xone but compared to origin, which doesn't drop tension at all, it holds up really well. 14-15 hours in and the tension feels good (haven't measured) and has yet to go trampoline on me.
 

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How is Velocity playing at that tension? You might need to experiment at least once with lower tension. I noticed I have some 50% notches. When it breaks, I am considering changing from 55# to 52#. Even at 47# (RT), it is still playing with good control.
Next time I will try lower tension. Really don't like it at the stiffer tension. Not much feel left. I'll check RT tonight to see if it dropped any more.
 

ByeByePoly

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Next time I will try lower tension. Really don't like it at the stiffer tension. Not much feel left. I'll check RT tonight to see if it dropped any more.

I'm thinking I will drop to 52# next stringing. If I do, I will keep RT records again and see where the tension settles. From 55#, pretty much settled 47-48. If it settled at 44-45 from 52, I would not likely have control issues, based on how it's playing now. I know it's not a poly based on how my arm feels (or doesn't feel), but it sure seems to be playable in poly tension ranges. That is strange. Maybe there is secret poly in there. If I won a you-lied-about-the-poly lawsuit against Head, I would want to be paid in Velocity reels. :p:p:p

I wonder how long to break a string from 50% notches. I REALLY want to break a string to prove my manhood. If I do, I will take a picture.
 

ByeByePoly

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Lol! Not old or just in denial. I just turned 40 and my closest family got together and bought me a spot on this training camp with a former atp-pro (Björn Borg-era). I'm wondering how my body will react to that amount of tennis. I usually play 3 times a week, maybe 4 in the summer. But I'm in pretty good shape (can run 10k in 40min) so I'm more concerned about my wrists and elbows. But thanks to velocity I think I'll be ok. :)

Oh, I guess there will be some eating and drinking aswell. It's an all inclusive resort (with a spa and water park included). My wife and kids are coming with me so this will hopefully be one vacation that willl be hard to beat.

Camp sounds fun. 10k in 40 minutes? :mad: 5 years ago I worked like crazy to "jog" a 5k under 30 minutes. The day my time said 29.?? I was so proud. Then I asked one of my USTA teammates who was an actual runner like you about his times ... and I never brought it up again. :eek:
 
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Suede12

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I have been using velocity in a Pro Kennex 5g due to a bad elbow. I have tried every Multi and been using Wilson Optimus which of course was discontinued and now using NRG but is just way to powerful. I tried Velocity and was blown away by the control and spin and I could drop the tension I started at 64 pounds now down to 61 and plays great. Plus the price is the best part. If you have a bad elbow and want a controlled oriented multi this is hands down the best one I have ever played with you just need to get the tension right
 

ByeByePoly

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I have been using velocity in a Pro Kennex 5g due to a bad elbow. I have tried every Multi and been using Wilson Optimus which of course was discontinued and now using NRG but is just way to powerful. I tried Velocity and was blown away by the control and spin and I could drop the tension I started at 64 pounds now down to 61 and plays great. Plus the price is the best part. If you have a bad elbow and want a controlled oriented multi this is hands down the best one I have ever played with you just need to get the tension right

Wow ... I bet Velocity over 60# is pretty stiff. Your elbow must be asking for under 55. :D
 

lemintz

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I wonder how long to break a string from 50% notches. I REALLY want to break a string to prove my manhood. If I do, I will take a picture.
Same here, really want to break these strings. At this point it's past 50% and closer to 70% notching on my second setup (in the mains with thin poly cross) but still very much playable (especially with a bit of secret sauce aka silicone spray ;). I had to cut them out on the first racquet since they wouldn't snap even at 70-75% notching
 

ByeByePoly

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Same here, really want to break these strings. At this point it's past 50% and closer to 70% notching on my second setup (in the mains with thin poly cross) but still very much playable (especially with a bit of secret sauce aka silicone spray ;). I had to cut them out on the first racquet since they wouldn't snap even at 70-75% notching

Cr@p ... wouldn't snap at 75% … I might never break them. :confused:
 

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Just came back from an hour hitting with my son. Tension felt better today. My condition wa better too. RT says 58.4 now. 63.7 off the stringer.
 

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If I drop the tension to 55/54 or 55/53 on the next stringing and it doesn't become a rocket launcher, that might have the best feel. The stiffer feeling sucked.

Today was not as bad. However, I was getting a bit of twinge on the outside of my elbow which I believe is classic TE. Inside would be GE…which maybe not quite as bad. Still, I think I violated the rule of going more than 50% recommended tension. So definitely will back off for next stringing. Hoping I'll drop at least 10% tension by hour 4.
 

Suede12

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Wow ... I bet Velocity over 60# is pretty stiff. Your elbow must be asking for under 55. :D

No PK 5g you can go to 68 pounds. The the USRSA rate Velocity one of the lowest stiffness ratings for a multi in the history of their ratings at 137 gut being at 90. NRG is 175 not sure if these rating even mean anything. Its what feels good on your arm so for no issues with Velocity at 62 pounds hitting for 3 straight days but I think its more the pro kennex its a arm saver.
 

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If I drop the tension to 55/54 or 55/53 on the next stringing and it doesn't become a rocket launcher, that might have the best feel. The stiffer feeling sucked.

Today was not as bad. However, I was getting a bit of twinge on the outside of my elbow which I believe is classic TE. Inside would be GE…which maybe not quite as bad. Still, I think I violated the rule of going more than 50% recommended tension. So definitely will back off for next stringing. Hoping I'll drop at least 10% tension by hour 4.
My arm and shoulder is feeling a sore today. I'm thinking that I've been playing Mon, Tues, Wed, Fri, Sat, Sun last week. So 6 out of 7 days. That might be contributing to it. I'm gonna back off playing a bit and let my body rest and recover. Since my new racquet is coming in, good time to geek out on modding racquets. I already spent a little time to add some weight to one of my son's racquets. Let him see what it's like to swing same racquet, but just a touch heavier (0.25oz). Also, I'm having him re-string his racquet with Velocity in the cross instead of OGSM. Hoping the softer, slicker, lower powered cross might work better for him. He's using HyperG 18 in the mains.
 

ByeByePoly

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No PK 5g you can go to 68 pounds. The the USRSA rate Velocity one of the lowest stiffness ratings for a multi in the history of their ratings at 137 gut being at 90. NRG is 175 not sure if these rating even mean anything. Its what feels good on your arm so for no issues with Velocity at 62 pounds hitting for 3 straight days but I think its more the pro kennex its a arm saver.

Yeah ... stiff was the wrong word. "WAY low powered @60" is what I meant. Velocity is a hard string to describe. A very "not stiff" arm-friendly nylon isn't suppose to play low-mid power poly-like, and yet it does.

Edit: Velocity plays a lot closer to poly than gut ... which I thought was the definition of multi (gut like). IMO ... it seems Velocity isn't a multi ... it's own niche like Origin.
 

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Yeah ... stiff was the wrong word. "WAY low powered @60" is what I meant. Velocity is a hard string to describe. A very "not stiff" arm-friendly nylon isn't suppose to play low-mid power poly-like, and yet it does.

Edit: Velocity plays a lot closer to poly than gut ... which I thought was the definition of multi (gut like). IMO ... it seems Velocity isn't a multi ... it's own niche like Origin.
I think I strung high because I was thinking in terms of typical multis. Obviously Velocity is different...
Now I want to see how low I can string and still retain that low powered performance but get some of the other benefits like even softer feel and more pocketing.
 

ByeByePoly

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I think I strung high because I was thinking in terms of typical multis. Obviously Velocity is different...
Now I want to see how low I can string and still retain that low powered performance but get some of the other benefits like even softer feel and more pocketing.

I am not sure yet if I will drop from 55#. My friend I played today has "real" :confused: groundstrokes. There wasn't that many times I was thinking "that shot could have used more pace". There were lots of times I needed the control/spin on a full FH to bring the ball down at the baseline. I needed to get him moving ... pace right at him just made him a happy camper. I'm guessing that 3# wouldn't change the spin. I also have a hunch Velocity is one of those strings that wouldn't play that different from 50# to 60# ... could be wrong.

I updated the RT numbers. Holding steady ... looks like I can expect 16g Natural to settle at 10% loss from tension off the stringer. Maybe you will be a guage for 17g tension loss. Of course, that 10% loss for my game. I'm sure that would vary for someone who hits harder, or soneone who hits softer.
 

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I am not sure yet if I will drop from 55#. My friend I played today has "real" :confused: groundstrokes. There wasn't that many times I was thinking "that shot could have used more pace". There were lots of times I needed the control/spin on a full FH to bring the ball down at the baseline. I needed to get him moving ... pace right at him just made him a happy camper. I'm guessing that 3# wouldn't change the spin. I also have a hunch Velocity is one of those strings that wouldn't play that different from 50# to 60# ... could be wrong.

I updated the RT numbers. Holding steady ... looks like I can expect 16g Natural to settle at 10% loss from tension off the stringer. Maybe you will be a guage for 17g tension loss. Of course, that 10% loss for my game. I'm sure that would vary for someone who hits harder, or soneone who hits softer.
I was thinking about a post that copolyx wrote regarding the question of 16g vs 17g performance given everything else is the same.

but in general, thinner will have more pop, more spin potential
thicker will yield more control, less power, less spin potenial
I wonder if the thinner gauge provides more comfort as there might be greater deflection with thinner gauge?
I know one of the experiments I'll have to do is a poly/Velocity hybrid. But I'm wondering about doing a HyperG18 and Velocity16? Spin from the poly, low power from poly AND Velocity, but maximize control?
 

ByeByePoly

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I was thinking about a post that copolyx wrote regarding the question of 16g vs 17g performance given everything else is the same.


I wonder if the thinner gauge provides more comfort as there might be greater deflection with thinner gauge?
I know one of the experiments I'll have to do is a poly/Velocity hybrid. But I'm wondering about doing a HyperG18 and Velocity16? Spin from the poly, low power from poly AND Velocity, but maximize control?

We are rec tennis players ... that word control needs to be bolded. Based on how I played today, no chance I'm changing from 16g. Of course, I have pretty much always played full bed 16g... and tension maintenance matters to me.

You know how we always talk about spin ... and compare between strings. I had another thought about that in my singles match today. I think I am close to RPM spin (say 8/10) ... but it looks like I'm hitting a heavier ball. Part of that could be the heavier V1, but it seems it's also the Velocity. It's one thing to be more spinny ... it's another to see your opponent deal with a heavier ball at the baseline. Obviously this is in context to my usual shots ... I still haven't broke Velocity in 27+ hours. I thought today was string break pic day ... serious notches now.
 

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We are rec tennis players ... that word control needs to be bolded. Based on how I played today, no chance I'm changing from 16g. Of course, I have pretty much always played full bed 16g... and tension maintenance matters to me.

You know how we always talk about spin ... and compare between strings. I had another thought about that in my singles match today. I think I am close to RPM spin (say 8/10) ... but it looks like I'm hitting a heavier ball. Part of that could be the heavier V1, but it seems it's also the Velocity. It's one thing to be more spinny ... it's another to see your opponent deal with a heavier ball at the baseline. Obviously this is in context to my usual shots ... I still haven't broke Velocity in 27+ hours. I thought today was string break pic day ... serious notches now.
It's amazing how long you've gone with that stringing. I had moderate notching after 15hrs. I noticed my son had moderate notching on his HyperG when I was cleaning up after his stringing (I need to have a talk with that boy).

I know that with the lower power, I need to swing out or else I'll have a nice meeting with the net. Any lack of footwork or weighting the wrong foot just comes out with shot to the net. So when I do get things right, I do hit a good ball. The heavier racquet seems to be one of those "power up rings" in video games that enhances everything by 5%...
 

ByeByePoly

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It's amazing how long you've gone with that stringing. I had moderate notching after 15hrs. I noticed my son had moderate notching on his HyperG when I was cleaning up after his stringing (I need to have a talk with that boy).

I know that with the lower power, I need to swing out or else I'll have a nice meeting with the net. Any lack of footwork or weighting the wrong foot just comes out with shot to the net. So when I do get things right, I do hit a good ball. The heavier racquet seems to be one of those "power up rings" in video games that enhances everything by 5%...

String tension is now going up ... lol

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/head-velocity.586942/page-7#post-11247172

Yeah ... 27.5 hours with a nylon string is nuts. Obviously I am trying to play this first set until it breaks as a benchmark. I most likely would restring before it breaks in the future, but it's still playing great to me. I played my best tennis of the summer today, with more pace and spin ... with 25 hours on the string. I remember Sensation feeling great at first ... but tailed off after a couple of weeks. That's the other thing ... I said it checked all the boxes for me except "feel". That is no longer the case. Not sure if I just got used to it, or better rhs now, or more hits in sweetspot ... but now it's feeling sweet on full groundies. About the only thing left I'm missing w/Velocity is honing in my BH dropshot. That's always my automatic shot ... even with RPM. I just haven't been as sharp with Velocity. That also improved today ... for whatever reason I need to give it a bit more height to keep it tight with the net.

I have no reason to hybrid Velocity. I actually don't want anymore spin ... I think there is a tradeoff between max spin and max control on flattish drives. Let's put it this way ... I can hit a better flatish shot with Velocity than with RPM. I hit a heavy cc dipper today on a running pass ... so I have more than enough spin on the shots I need it. That's funny ... 2 months ago I created a thread complaining how my cc FH w/ball machine sucked (and it did). Nylon feels GOOD :rolleyes: after years with poly.
 

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Just got back from Flights. My serves were ugly today. Ground strokes ok. Velocity felt better. Back to feeling more like I remember.

Grooved some strokes with club mate. Was hitting pretty good.
4+hrs now. 57.5#.

One more week of Flights immediately following kids' swim meet...

Club tournament this weekend.

My 2nd V1Pro came in. Time to post up in the gut/poly thread soon...

Gonna be a busy weekend.
 
Just tried Head Velocity 16g Natural string in Angell TC100, 57 lbs in a 63 RA unstrung racquet.

Feels excellent. Only have OG sheep micro 16 as comparison in a Dr 98, but seems to be less springy, but providing a more predictable response while still being comfortable. It's like it provides some benefits like a poly, such as predictability, but maintaining the comfort of a multi. I am really enjoying it. Will keep you guys posted on how it progresses, but so far I have found a wonderful string setup.
 

ByeByePoly

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Just tried Head Velocity 16g Natural string in Angell TC100, 57 lbs in a 63 RA unstrung racquet.

Feels excellent. Only have OG sheep micro 16 as comparison in a Dr 98, but seems to be less springy, but providing a more predictable response while still being comfortable. It's like it provides some benefits like a poly, such as predictability, but maintaining the comfort of a multi. I am really enjoying it. Will keep you guys posted on how it progresses, but so far I have found a wonderful string setup.

Man ... @Holliman is going to have to give a speech at the annual Velocity gathering. :rolleyes: I think he showed up recently in a poly thread ... afraid he went back to the dark side.

Yes, Velocity is BYOP ... bring your own pop.
 

georgiahank

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After cheating on Velocity a few times with a poly, I am now fully committed to it (well at least for the next several months). After trying a variety of tensions and gauges I have finally settled on 53/53 with 16g mains in natural and 17g crosses in black. No preference on color, just easier to identify the half sets. I hit full bed 16g and the 16g/17g hybrid side by side over the course of several weeks and in every session I preferred the 16g/17g hybrid. It just felt better in every category except durability which is only marginally worse. My hitting partner complains about the black marks on the balls but he is just going to have to deal with it.
 

ByeByePoly

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After cheating on Velocity a few times with a poly, I am now fully committed to it (well at least for the next several months). After trying a variety of tensions and gauges I have finally settled on 53/53 with 16g mains in natural and 17g crosses in black. No preference on color, just easier to identify the half sets. I hit full bed 16g and the 16g/17g hybrid side by side over the course of several weeks and in every session I preferred the 16g/17g hybrid. It just felt better in every category except durability which is only marginally worse. My hitting partner complains about the black marks on the balls but he is just going to have to deal with it.

Yep ... if I went 17g cross I was going to use black for same reason (keeping up with half sets). I shouldn't ask ... but :confused: tell me more about side by side test. I was going to try 16g/17g ... but then it occurred to me I wasn't looking for more spin from full bed 16g.

I think this is the first I heard of the black strings marking the ball. That would probably be enough reason for me to stick with natural 17 in the crosses.

Tension question? I see most that 2 piece string with same string drop a couple of lbs on the cross. Is the thinking that 53# 17g is "less than" 53# 16g as far as feel,pocketing,spin?

I was planning (probably) to try full bed 16g at 52#. How would your 53/53 hybrid feel/play compared to that fb 52# 16g?

What racquet? Maybe you already said.
 

georgiahank

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Yep ... if I went 17g cross I was going to use black for same reason (keeping up with half sets). I shouldn't ask ... but :confused: tell me more about side by side test. I was going to try 16g/17g ... but then it occurred to me I wasn't looking for more spin from full bed 16g.

I think this is the first I heard of the black strings marking the ball. That would probably be enough reason for me to stick with natural 17 in the crosses.

Tension question? I see most that 2 piece string with same string drop a couple of lbs on the cross. Is the thinking that 53# 17g is "less than" 53# 16g as far as feel,pocketing,spin?

I was planning (probably) to try full bed 16g at 52#. How would your 53/53 hybrid feel/play compared to that fb 52# 16g?

What racquet? Maybe you already said.

I have noticed two primary differences with the hybrid. 1) Better net clearance which is attributable either to higher launch angle or additional power. With the 16g I felt I had to work harder to keep shots out of the net whereas with the 16g/17g hybrid shots more easily cleared the net but with no issue dropping quickly enough to land in. 2) The hybrid seemed to significantly improve the one area I initially thought was lacking with Velcoity which is the overall feel. I was much better at executing touch shots with the hybrid and felt overall better control. In short, I was much more confident from all areas of the court.

One of my tests was with a full bed at 52 and though the lower tension full bed started to get close in performance and feel, the hybrid was still significantly better.

I originally started with 16g at 55/53 almost always dropping cross tension by 2 pounds. I read a thread from a while back where someone said they preferred to keep same tension in mains and cross, but used a thinner cross of the same string. In theory, the thinner gauge should have more pocketing which is what I believe is trying to be accomplished with the lower cross tension.

I am using a DR98+.
 

ByeByePoly

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I have noticed two primary differences with the hybrid. 1) Better net clearance which is attributable either to higher launch angle or additional power. With the 16g I felt I had to work harder to keep shots out of the net whereas with the 16g/17g hybrid shots more easily cleared the net but with no issue dropping quickly enough to land in. 2) The hybrid seemed to significantly improve the one area I initially thought was lacking with Velcoity which is the overall feel. I was much better at executing touch shots with the hybrid and felt overall better control. In short, I was much more confident from all areas of the court.

One of my tests was with a full bed at 52 and though the lower tension full bed started to get close in performance and feel, the hybrid was still significantly better.

I originally started with 16g at 55/53 almost always dropping cross tension by 2 pounds. I read a thread from a while back where someone said they preferred to keep same tension in mains and cross, but used a thinner cross of the same string. In theory, the thinner gauge should have more pocketing which is what I believe is trying to be accomplished with the lower cross tension.

I am using a DR98+.

Great feedback. Thanks ... I think. :confused: I said "never poly again", and then tried Cream. I said "no Velocity because sounded to powerful, and now it's my string". I said I had no need for 17g Velocity ... and Hank happened.

What really makes me consider it is the feel. I have no issues with launch angle or spin, or feel on groundies (actually starting to love feel from full groundstrokes). But what I gained from full groundstrokes, I seem to have lost dropshot feel off my bh. Interestingly vollies feel good ... it's just the dropshot feel. I figure every string is a trade-off ... and full groundstrokes are WAY more important than the occasional dropshot. But here's the thing ... the dropshot has always been a goto shot for me I can count on. If I could get the same (or better) play + a bit more touch ... win win.

Cr@p ... :p
 

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Great feedback. Thanks ... I think. :confused: I said "never poly again", and then tried Cream. I said "no Velocity because sounded to powerful, and now it's my string". I said I had no need for 17g Velocity ... and Hank happened.

What really makes me consider it is the feel. I have no issues with launch angle or spin, or feel on groundies (actually starting to love feel from full groundstrokes). But what I gained from full groundstrokes, I seem to have lost dropshot feel off my bh. Interestingly vollies feel good ... it's just the dropshot feel. I figure every string is a trade-off ... and full groundstrokes are WAY more important than the occasional dropshot. But here's the thing ... the dropshot has always been a goto shot for me I can count on. If I could get the same (or better) play + a bit more touch ... win win.

Cr@p ... :p
Once you start down the hybrid rabbit hole...

We use OGSM in black. It marks the ball.

Hm...16gM and 17gC... I can see trying that out.
I was actually thinking of going the other way. Try 17g Velocity in cross and 18g HyperG in main... Hoping for a bit higher launch angle and spin. But that's a couple stringings away. I still have yet to hit with VS/Cream. I have a match tonight and tomorrow. Will try the gut in light practice this afternoon and see if it's something I want to play with over full bed Velocity.
 
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ByeByePoly

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Once you start down the hybrid rabbit hole...

We use OGSM in black. It marks the ball.

Hm...16gM and 17gC... I can see trying that out.
I was actually thinking of going the other way. Try 17g Velocity in cross and 18g HyperG in main... Hoping for a bit higher launch angle and spin. But that's a couple stringings away. I still have yet to hit with VS/Cream. I have a match tonight and tomorrow. Will try the gut in light practice this afternoon and see if it's something I want to play with over full bed Velocity.

Decided no need to order 17g until I try fb 16g @52 next. I thought it would break today in doubles. One notch is way past 50%. It's in exactly the same spot I put the ss on other side M5,C4. LOL.
 
Had anyone tried Velocity mains/poly crosses hybrid? I have been thinking that this might be a good combination. Given that velocity is slick, has good snapback, and is durable, might this be a cheaper alternative to Natty gut/poly? I know it wouldn't be the same, but would it have similar characteristics. I was thinking about a smooth, round copoly like Head Hawk, Yonex PTP, Weiss SS/Scorpion, or something like Max power at a lower tension as a cross.
 

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Had anyone tried Velocity mains/poly crosses hybrid? I have been thinking that this might be a good combination. Given that velocity is slick, has good snapback, and is durable, might this be a cheaper alternative to Natty gut/poly? I know it wouldn't be the same, but would it have similar characteristics. I was thinking about a smooth, round copoly like Head Hawk, Yonex PTP, Weiss SS/Scorpion, or something like Max power at a lower tension as a cross.

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/head-velocity.586942/page-3#post-11172499
 

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I just strung another velocity hybrid in my son's Wilson Ultra 100: Cyclone Tour 18 anthracite crossed with black Velocity 16 at 50/51. Looks pretty stealthy, but we'll see how long it can last. The CT feels like twisted steel cable next to the Velocity and wouldn't be surprised if the Velocity gets shredded
So @392Hemi seems to have the most experience with side-by-side fb Velocity as well as hybrid of V/Cream and CT/V. Any changes to your impressions?

I cut out fb V after 15hrs and found that freshly strung, played not much differently. So it does seem that playability lasts even with notching and the mains moving out of place.

So having tasted gut/Cream, and loving it, I'm now curious about V/Cream vs fb V.
 

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So @392Hemi seems to have the most experience with side-by-side fb Velocity as well as hybrid of V/Cream and CT/V. Any changes to your impressions?

I cut out fb V after 15hrs and found that freshly strung, played not much differently. So it does seem that playability lasts even with notching and the mains moving out of place.

So having tasted gut/Cream, and loving it, I'm now curious about V/Cream vs fb V.

My son hates the cyclone tour/Velocity but likes full velocity, so likely the volkl not doing it for him. I have not changed my full velocity yet after 3 weeks (prob 20 hrs) in the prokennex and it still plays great. I will probably go with velocity/Cream again next time to try it out in the pk. I liked it very much in the tw100. Wife tried but does not like velocity and is playing X1/OGSM. So more in the stash for me
 

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Did it ... broke Velocity.

I feel like Gerulaitus after finally beating Jimmy Connors ... "And let that be a lesson to you all. Nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitis 17 times in a row."

So Velocity ... let that be a lesson ... no nylon string lasts over 30 hours with BBP. :cool:

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My son hates the cyclone tour/Velocity but likes full velocity, so likely the volkl not doing it for him. I have not changed my full velocity yet after 3 weeks (prob 20 hrs) in the prokennex and it still plays great. I will probably go with velocity/Cream again next time to try it out in the pk. I liked it very much in the tw100. Wife tried but does not like velocity and is playing X1/OGSM. So more in the stash for me

I think Velocity is like poly regarding RHS. I think it's a good choice for full swings with decent RHS, but better choices when someone wants/needs more pop/touch. JMO. My wife loves Sensation ... every time I have tried anything else with her she tells me to put the Sensation back in. She tries my new racquets and strings, but hard for her to compare since she plays with a 7 oz racquet. :cool:
 

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My son hates the cyclone tour/Velocity but likes full velocity, so likely the volkl not doing it for him. I have not changed my full velocity yet after 3 weeks (prob 20 hrs) in the prokennex and it still plays great. I will probably go with velocity/Cream again next time to try it out in the pk. I liked it very much in the tw100. Wife tried but does not like velocity and is playing X1/OGSM. So more in the stash for me
I never liked Cyclone Tour. Like Jekyl and Hyde.

Just wonder whether I should jump on Velocity Cream for next stringing. Or just stick to FB Velocity as my back up and keep hitting gut/cream.
 

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Did it ... broke Velocity.

I feel like Gerulaitus after finally beating Jimmy Connors ... "And let that be a lesson to you all. Nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitis 17 times in a row."

So Velocity ... let that be a lesson ... no nylon string lasts over 30 hours with BBP. :cool:

GklgCPel.jpg
Way to go. Are you on the second floor and your dog on the first. Or is he really only 8oz...
 

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Did it ... broke Velocity.

I feel like Gerulaitus after finally beating Jimmy Connors ... "And let that be a lesson to you all. Nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitis 17 times in a row."

So Velocity ... let that be a lesson ... no nylon string lasts over 30 hours with BBP. :cool:

GklgCPel.jpg

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My son hates the cyclone tour/Velocity but likes full velocity, so likely the volkl not doing it for him. I have not changed my full velocity yet after 3 weeks (prob 20 hrs) in the prokennex and it still plays great. I will probably go with velocity/Cream again next time to try it out in the pk. I liked it very much in the tw100. Wife tried but does not like velocity and is playing X1/OGSM. So more in the stash for me
How was the playabiliy duration of the cream cross with v mains? Wanted to try this setup, or another soft, slick copoly.
 
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