How DJokovic BEAT Rafa Nadal over and over, again and again.

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Anatomy Of A Rivalry: How Novak Beats Rafa
By James Waterson Photo Credit: Leon Neal/AFP/Getty Images

(July 4, 2011) With Novak Djokovic’s 6-4, 6-1, 1-6, 6-3 victory against Rafael Nadal at Wimbledon, he's beaten the Spaniard in five finals this year.

Djokovic, who took the No. 1 ranking away from Nadal by advancing to the Wimbledon final, is the only man to have beaten the Spaniard more than three times in a row.

James Blake, Tomas Berdych, Lleyton Hewitt and Gaston Gaudio have done this, but all of their wins came early in Nadal’s career, and with the exception of Gaudio, on hard courts.

Since he’s been at the top of the rankings, Nadal has dominated his fellow top 10 players. He has a 17-8 record against Roger Federer, 12-4 against Andy Murray and 6-2 against Robin Soderling.

Of the top 10, Djokovic is the closest to being even with Nadal, but he still has a 12-16 record against him. That record includes the Serb’s five wins from this year, indicating that until recently their match-up was just as one-sided as the others.

So why has Djokovic become a bad match-up for Nadal? His gluten-free diet and improved fitness level certainly factor into the equation, but there’s more to it.

Some of Djokovic’s strengths play well off of Nadal’s pattern of play, and the Serb has become much savvier at taking advantage of the openings the Spaniard gives him.

Below I will discuss what he brings to the table and why he’s been able to succeed against an opponent that has consistently beaten everyone else this year.


The Two-Handed Backhand

For anyone who plays against Nadal (assuming they’re right handed), it’s critical they can attack and defend off of that side because of the Spaniard’s ability to hit heavy left-handed crosscourt forehands to that side.

Fortunately for Djokovic, that shot has always been one of his main strengths. He is capable of hitting with great consistency and depth, as well as hitting precise down the line and angled cross court winners from seemingly defensive positions.

Nadal likes to build points by moving his opponents laterally until he gets a short ball. While that works against almost everyone else, Djokovic can run everything down and, particularly on the backhand, hit deep shots that Nadal can’t attack.

This happened numerous times in the Wimbledon final. Nadal would hit a shot to Djokovic’s backhand after having him on the run and then step inside the baseline, anticipating a short response. What he got instead was a ball at his feet, and although he still got the shot back it enabled Djokovic to turn the point around.

Another key element is the Serb’s ability to direct his crosscourt backhands wide enough to make Nadal scramble. In a neutral rally, he sets the shot up by hitting short-angled crosscourt forehands to Nadal’s backhand.

The idea is to tempt the Spaniard to hit down the line, giving Djokovic a chance to hit into the open court with the shot he excells with the most.

If Nadal is able to get that shot back and crosscourt, Djokovic can direct his next backhand down the line to apply even more pressure.

Even when Nadal runs around his backhand to hit a forehand and hits it to Djokovic’s backhand, he does himself no favors because he opens up the court to the Serb’s backhand.

This strategy wouldn’t work if Djokovic didn’t have the endurance, speed or consistency to keep up with Nadal. In the past, he’s fallen short of the mark on all three of those, but this year things have changed.

Fitness and Defense

It’s no secret Djokovic has been working hard on his fitness, and his new diet has enabled him to lose some weight. He’s even said that he feels faster around the court and it’s obvious he has the confidence in his fitness to go the distance with anyone.

Against Nadal, that helps him tremendously because he doesn’t feel like he has to go for a lot. This enables him to hit higher percentage shots and be more patient in setting up the point, as opposed to many of the other players who feel they have to play first-strike tennis against the World No. 2.

In the Wimbledon final, Djokovic hit 12 unforced errors, three fewer than Nadal. Not a huge difference, until you consider that until that match Nadal had far fewer errors than any of his previous opponents.

The Serb also had more winners than Nadal, although both still had less than 30.

That number is particularly low for the World No. 2 because he hit an average of 40 winners per match leading up to the final.

The difference illustrates Djokovic’s ability to return many of Nadal’s shots, which put the Spaniard under the same kind of pressure he puts on many of his opponents. That has translated into a number of errors in crucial moments in all of their matches this year, which ultimately gave Djokovic the edge he needed to win.

In the end, Djokovic’s ability to scramble and defend has made Nadal look, dare I say, human?


Mental Strength

Nadal is a relentless competitor, and he’s shown time after time that if you give him even a half chance, he’ll find a way to turn that into a win. Even down a sizable deficit against one of the game’s top players, Nadal seems to find a way to seize the momentum and come back to win.

That momentum switch seems to come from a break of serve, or a close service game he manages to hold. A good example of this is his semifinal match against Andy Murray. Murray won the first set 7-5 and missed a short forehand that would have given him two break points at 2-2, and Nadal found a way to hold and that momentum carried him to winning the next seven games.

Djokovic doesn’t let a potential opportunity distract him from the task at hand, and he doesn’t get discouraged.

An example of this is in their first final of the year at Indian Wells. Although he lost the first set, Djokovic played his way to a 4-2 lead in the second. Nadal played a series of outstanding points to break back, but instead of getting down on himself, Djokovic found a way to break back and serve out the set.

It seems as if Djokovic understands that Nadal is capable of hitting shots that no one else can, but the Serb brushes those points off and goes back to playing the match he knows he needs to.

Djokovic has improved all parts of his game, but the improvement of these parts of his game has made him more than a match for Nadal, as well as enabled him to lose only one match this year.

After the Wimbledon final, Nadal said “We can analyze that my game is not bothering him … We have to find how I can bother him. I did in the past. He's in the best moment of his career. I am in one of the best moments of my career, but still not enough for him.”
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
Djokovic, who took the No. 1 ranking away from Nadal by advancing to the Wimbledon final, is the only man to have beaten the Spaniard more than three times in a row.

Incorrect. Davydenko has won his last 4 matches against Nadal.
 

TonyB

Hall of Fame
There's a lot written in that article, but there's only ONE really important shot that matters: the sharp angled crosscourt forehand to Nadal's backhand.

Djokovic learned this from Murray, who used it successfully in a few matches against Nadal last year. Murray consistently hit to Nadal's backhand and pinned him in that corner. Since then, Nadal started running around just about every backhand he could. Some matches he managed to hit more than 80% forehands just by running around his backhand.

But if Nadal does that against Murray or Djokovic, they can end the point going to the open court with either forehand or backhand. Federer was only really able to do this in the Year End Championships. In that match against Nadal, he crushed his crosscourt backhands and everyone was shocked to see so many backhand winners from Roger. But the point is that he set up the points by attacking Nadal's backhand first.

Anyways, the bottom line is that I'm amazed that it has taken this long for Nadal's opponents to pick up on this strategy. Short angled forehands to Nadal's backhand will set up much easier winners later in the rally. Djokovic knows this (as well as Murray) and they will soon be beating Nadal on a much more regular basis. And if the rest of the field isn't completely stupid, they will do the same.

If you don't believe me, just go back and watch the AO 2010 Murray/Nadal match and the recent 2011 Wimbledon Final. Once the pattern shifts sharply to Nadal's backhand side, the point is virtually over.
 

Tennis_Monk

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There's a lot written in that article, but there's only ONE really important shot that matters: the sharp angled crosscourt forehand to Nadal's backhand.

Djokovic learned this from Murray, who used it successfully in a few matches against Nadal last year. Murray consistently hit to Nadal's backhand and pinned him in that corner. Since then, Nadal started running around just about every backhand he could. Some matches he managed to hit more than 80% forehands just by running around his backhand.

But if Nadal does that against Murray or Djokovic, they can end the point going to the open court with either forehand or backhand. Federer was only really able to do this in the Year End Championships. In that match against Nadal, he crushed his crosscourt backhands and everyone was shocked to see so many backhand winners from Roger. But the point is that he set up the points by attacking Nadal's backhand first.

Anyways, the bottom line is that I'm amazed that it has taken this long for Nadal's opponents to pick up on this strategy. Short angled forehands to Nadal's backhand will set up much easier winners later in the rally. Djokovic knows this (as well as Murray) and they will soon be beating Nadal on a much more regular basis. And if the rest of the field isn't completely stupid, they will do the same.

If you don't believe me, just go back and watch the AO 2010 Murray/Nadal match and the recent 2011 Wimbledon Final. Once the pattern shifts sharply to Nadal's backhand side, the point is virtually over.

Your assessment is spot on.

Players that can consistently attack Nadal's backhand can get better results against Nadal.

Ofcourse this is the same weakness Roger had too.

I dont think Djoker can play at this level (losing a match once every 6 months) and sooner or later his game will come down. Thats when it gets really interesting between the Roger, Nadal, Djoker and Murray.

Nadal has Roger
Djoker has Nadal
Roger can handle Djoker (i dont want to say has)
Murray can hang with these guys with some more work

calls for interesting next 1 year
 

Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
What I found weird was that Nadal was making unforced errors. That's something you very rarely see from him because he plays such high percentage tennis. I think he finally got a taste of his own medicine in terms of playing a backboard.
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
There's a lot written in that article, but there's only ONE really important shot that matters: the sharp angled crosscourt forehand to Nadal's backhand.

Djokovic learned this from Murray, who used it successfully in a few matches against Nadal last year. Murray consistently hit to Nadal's backhand and pinned him in that corner. Since then, Nadal started running around just about every backhand he could. Some matches he managed to hit more than 80% forehands just by running around his backhand.

But if Nadal does that against Murray or Djokovic, they can end the point going to the open court with either forehand or backhand. Federer was only really able to do this in the Year End Championships. In that match against Nadal, he crushed his crosscourt backhands and everyone was shocked to see so many backhand winners from Roger. But the point is that he set up the points by attacking Nadal's backhand first.

Anyways, the bottom line is that I'm amazed that it has taken this long for Nadal's opponents to pick up on this strategy. Short angled forehands to Nadal's backhand will set up much easier winners later in the rally. Djokovic knows this (as well as Murray) and they will soon be beating Nadal on a much more regular basis. And if the rest of the field isn't completely stupid, they will do the same.

If you don't believe me, just go back and watch the AO 2010 Murray/Nadal match and the recent 2011 Wimbledon Final. Once the pattern shifts sharply to Nadal's backhand side, the point is virtually over.



Almost every time Nadal has lost has been because Nadal has been too predictable off of his backhand side. I agree; I'm surprise that no one picked up on the fact that his inability to go hard down the line hurts him big time against players like Djokovic, Davydenko, etc.


The sharp angled forehand and the high heavy topspin forehand both to the Nadal backhand are both key shots in setting up points against Nadal. The times that Nadal has lost is because players are able to exploit Nadal's backhand, thus opening up his forehand corner. Nadal's forehand is only good when he has time to hit it; if you force him to hit it on the run and way behind the baseline, he has to either gun it down the line (which is a risky low percentage play) or play it safe and drop it short.


The one time I saw Nadal lose without this pattern occurring was against Ferrer at the US Open, where Ferrer actually pinned Nadal to his forehand corner with his inside out forehand, and then took it down the line.
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
Not letting Nadal camp out on his backhand side, and opening up the court to his forehand, is what results in then opening up the court on his backhand side.
 

Kaz00

Semi-Pro
Alright so I am going on a gluten free diet and working on my 2hbh and fitness. Maybe this will get me the #1 spot in college!
 

Magnus

Legend
Davydenko is Nadal's daddy, Djokovic not yet.

Davydenko has the ability to hit the best FH angles to Nadal's BH, forcing Nadal to hit weak, short slices, allowing Davydenko to go DTL with his FH and finish the point. Worked like a charm for their past 4 matches,
 

TennisFan3

Talk Tennis Guru
I summarized Djokovic's winning strategy against Nadal in another thread.

Based on what I've seen in the 5 Djoker-Nadal matches this yr, the 3 problem areas for Nadal -

1) Djokovic cross court (cc) forehand to Nadal's backhand: Djoker uses the Davydenko 101, i.e hitting short angled cross court forehand to drag Nadal off the court. This shot goes to Rafa's backhand. So Rafa either slices the ball back, or hits it short with his backhand. Then Djoker takes control of the neutral rally. Unlike 2008, Nadal cannot hit a good DTL backhand or a deep cross court backhand to save his life..

2) Nadal's backhand to Djoker's backhand: Standard change up for Nadal in ANY neutral rally is to the hit down the line (DTL) to his opponent's backhand. Against Djoker, Rafa drops the ball short with his DTL backhand, and Djoker steps in and attacks with his own backhand taking control. Very few players can do this consistently against Nadal.

3) Djoker ROS "deep" in the middle of the court: Djoker has a great tactic of returning deep straight back at Nadal on the Spaniard's serve. What happens with this, is that Nadal barely finishes his service and the ball is at his feet. Consequently, he gets out of the way, and throws a short ball. Djoker dominates..

Basically all of their matches Novak manages to push Nadal back by hitting deep in the middle or dragging him off court (laterally) on the backhand side.
So Djokovic is camped on the baseline, and Nadal is way behind doing all the running.
Match is on Djoker's racquet..
 

BeHappy

Hall of Fame
He just does to Nadal what Nadal does to righthanders.

He hit everything to his backhand, waited for Nadal to hit a short ball, then went for a winner. Simple stuff here people.

Nadal's tactics were the bigger problem, he seemed to forget he wasn't playing Roger Federer and kept hitting 90% of his forehands as high looping shots to Djokovic's backhand, which unlike Federer, Djokovic can crush and take control of the rally if not hit an outright winner.
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
He just does to Nadal what Nadal does to righthanders.

He hit everything to his backhand, waited for Nadal to hit a short ball, then went for a winner. Simple stuff here people.

Nadal's tactics were the bigger problem, he seemed to forget he wasn't playing Roger Federer and kept hitting 90% of his forehands as high looping shots to Djokovic's backhand, which unlike Federer, Djokovic can crush and take control of the rally if not hit an outright winner.



It's not really that simple; Djokovic has the ability to crush crosscourt backhands, so if Nadal tries to change the crosscourt backhand to forehand rally, he gets beat by Djokovic's crosscourt backhand quite often, but if he doesn't try to change the direction on the ball, he is at a severe disadvantage against Djokovic's forehand. Either way he's in big trouble.
 

BeHappy

Hall of Fame
It's not really that simple; Djokovic has the ability to crush crosscourt backhands, so if Nadal tries to change the crosscourt backhand to forehand rally, he gets beat by Djokovic's crosscourt backhand quite often, but if he doesn't try to change the direction on the ball, he is at a severe disadvantage against Djokovic's forehand. Either way he's in big trouble.

If Nadal wasn't so passive against Djokovic and didn't rely so heavily on Djokovic's backhand being a terrible shot (which it isn't) that regularly coughs up short balls (which it doesn't), then he'd be fine. Not only does Djokovic not have a problem with slow, short, high bouncing balls to his backhand, that's his absolute favorite shot. Nadal sets him up and Djokovic tees off. Nadal might as well be serving underarm.

He needs to realize he's not playing Federer. He needs to go back to how he played at the start of his career, run around his backhand and hit forehands and put his opponent on the backfoot, just as Sampras did so effectively throughout his career.
 
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TennisFan3

Talk Tennis Guru
If Nadal wasn't so passive against Djokovic and didn't rely so heavily on Djokovic's backhand being a terrible shot (which it isn't) that regularly coughs up short balls (which it doesn't), then he'd be fine. Not only does Djokovic not have a problem with slow, short, high bouncing balls to his backhand, that's his absolute favorite shot. Nadal sets him up and Djokovic tees off. Nadal might as well be serving underarm.

He needs to realize he's not playing Federer. He needs to go back to how he played at the start of his career, run around his backhand and hit forehands and put his opponent on the backfoot, just as Sampras did so effectively throughout his career.

Good post..
 
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jackson vile

G.O.A.T.
Alright so I am going on a gluten free diet and working on my 2hbh and fitness. Maybe this will get me the #1 spot in college!

LOL, He claims he made no major changes, just very slight LOL

It is up to Nadal to fight back and win, we will see what happens next.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
If Nadal wasn't so passive against Djokovic and didn't rely so heavily on Djokovic's backhand being a terrible shot (which it isn't) that regularly coughs up short balls (which it doesn't), then he'd be fine. Not only does Djokovic not have a problem with slow, short, high bouncing balls to his backhand, that's his absolute favorite shot. Nadal sets him up and Djokovic tees off. Nadal might as well be serving underarm.

He needs to realize he's not playing Federer. He needs to go back to how he played at the start of his career, run around his backhand and hit forehands and put his opponent on the backfoot, just as Sampras did so effectively throughout his career.

Wait a minute. namelessone said Nadal's problem is he hit 85% fh, and not enough bh. He needs to trust his bh but right now he has no confidence on his bh. By keep camping far on the deuce side, he's leaving a wide open court to get expose. That's what namelessone said.

So either you or him is correct.
 
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Deleted member 77403

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Valid points.

But also, I notice that Novak returns very deep down the middle of the court, straight back at Rafa a lot of the time. Rafa cannot move in time to creat the angle off of a ball coming straight at him. He then drops it short, and Novak pummels Nadal's backhand with angle forehands, opening up the court for the easy winner.
 
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Deleted member 25923

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Almost every time Nadal has lost has been because Nadal has been too predictable off of his backhand side. I agree; I'm surprise that no one picked up on the fact that his inability to go hard down the line hurts him big time against players like Djokovic, Davydenko, etc......

This is why i'm shocked when in polls of best backhand, people say Rafa (people say Fed too, which is dead wrong as well). Rafa can hit the odd DTL backhand here and there, and sometimes he can crank it crosscourt, but it's nowhere near Djokovic and Murray level.

Rafa sometimes has good matches with it (AO 09 Final), but it's often just a topspin roll and passing shot.
 

SLD76

G.O.A.T.
This is why i'm shocked when in polls of best backhand, people say Rafa (people say Fed too, which is dead wrong as well). Rafa can hit the odd DTL backhand here and there, and sometimes he can crank it crosscourt, but it's nowhere near Djokovic and Murray level.

Rafa sometimes has good matches with it (AO 09 Final), but it's often just a topspin roll and passing shot.

this right here...but to be fair, fed's bh was great when he was younger, and was devastating agaisnt murray in the AO 2010
 

Stinkdyr

Professional
Nada will not say it, but I think his foot injury hampered him in the finals. He needed to be 100% healthy to handle Djoker........and he wasn't. This is Djoker's year.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Nada will not say it, but I think his foot injury hampered him in the finals. He needed to be 100% healthy to handle Djoker........and he wasn't. This is Djoker's year.

His movement was fine at the final, there was nothing wrong with his court coverage. It was always excellent.
 

sunof tennis

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Can Amateurs employ this tactic ?




Anatomy Of A Rivalry: How Novak Beats Rafa
By James Waterson Photo Credit: Leon Neal/AFP/Getty Images

(July 4, 2011) With Novak Djokovic’s 6-4, 6-1, 1-6, 6-3 victory against Rafael Nadal at Wimbledon, he's beaten the Spaniard in five finals this year.

Djokovic, who took the No. 1 ranking away from Nadal by advancing to the Wimbledon final, is the only man to have beaten the Spaniard more than three times in a row.

James Blake, Tomas Berdych, Lleyton Hewitt and Gaston Gaudio have done this, but all of their wins came early in Nadal’s career, and with the exception of Gaudio, on hard courts.

Since he’s been at the top of the rankings, Nadal has dominated his fellow top 10 players. He has a 17-8 record against Roger Federer, 12-4 against Andy Murray and 6-2 against Robin Soderling.

Of the top 10, Djokovic is the closest to being even with Nadal, but he still has a 12-16 record against him. That record includes the Serb’s five wins from this year, indicating that until recently their match-up was just as one-sided as the others.

So why has Djokovic become a bad match-up for Nadal? His gluten-free diet and improved fitness level certainly factor into the equation, but there’s more to it.

Some of Djokovic’s strengths play well off of Nadal’s pattern of play, and the Serb has become much savvier at taking advantage of the openings the Spaniard gives him.

Below I will discuss what he brings to the table and why he’s been able to succeed against an opponent that has consistently beaten everyone else this year.


The Two-Handed Backhand

For anyone who plays against Nadal (assuming they’re right handed), it’s critical they can attack and defend off of that side because of the Spaniard’s ability to hit heavy left-handed crosscourt forehands to that side.

Fortunately for Djokovic, that shot has always been one of his main strengths. He is capable of hitting with great consistency and depth, as well as hitting precise down the line and angled cross court winners from seemingly defensive positions.

Nadal likes to build points by moving his opponents laterally until he gets a short ball. While that works against almost everyone else, Djokovic can run everything down and, particularly on the backhand, hit deep shots that Nadal can’t attack.

This happened numerous times in the Wimbledon final. Nadal would hit a shot to Djokovic’s backhand after having him on the run and then step inside the baseline, anticipating a short response. What he got instead was a ball at his feet, and although he still got the shot back it enabled Djokovic to turn the point around.

Another key element is the Serb’s ability to direct his crosscourt backhands wide enough to make Nadal scramble. In a neutral rally, he sets the shot up by hitting short-angled crosscourt forehands to Nadal’s backhand.

The idea is to tempt the Spaniard to hit down the line, giving Djokovic a chance to hit into the open court with the shot he excells with the most.

If Nadal is able to get that shot back and crosscourt, Djokovic can direct his next backhand down the line to apply even more pressure.

Even when Nadal runs around his backhand to hit a forehand and hits it to Djokovic’s backhand, he does himself no favors because he opens up the court to the Serb’s backhand.

This strategy wouldn’t work if Djokovic didn’t have the endurance, speed or consistency to keep up with Nadal. In the past, he’s fallen short of the mark on all three of those, but this year things have changed.

Fitness and Defense

It’s no secret Djokovic has been working hard on his fitness, and his new diet has enabled him to lose some weight. He’s even said that he feels faster around the court and it’s obvious he has the confidence in his fitness to go the distance with anyone.

Against Nadal, that helps him tremendously because he doesn’t feel like he has to go for a lot. This enables him to hit higher percentage shots and be more patient in setting up the point, as opposed to many of the other players who feel they have to play first-strike tennis against the World No. 2.

In the Wimbledon final, Djokovic hit 12 unforced errors, three fewer than Nadal. Not a huge difference, until you consider that until that match Nadal had far fewer errors than any of his previous opponents.

The Serb also had more winners than Nadal, although both still had less than 30.

That number is particularly low for the World No. 2 because he hit an average of 40 winners per match leading up to the final.

The difference illustrates Djokovic’s ability to return many of Nadal’s shots, which put the Spaniard under the same kind of pressure he puts on many of his opponents. That has translated into a number of errors in crucial moments in all of their matches this year, which ultimately gave Djokovic the edge he needed to win.

In the end, Djokovic’s ability to scramble and defend has made Nadal look, dare I say, human?


Mental Strength

Nadal is a relentless competitor, and he’s shown time after time that if you give him even a half chance, he’ll find a way to turn that into a win. Even down a sizable deficit against one of the game’s top players, Nadal seems to find a way to seize the momentum and come back to win.

That momentum switch seems to come from a break of serve, or a close service game he manages to hold. A good example of this is his semifinal match against Andy Murray. Murray won the first set 7-5 and missed a short forehand that would have given him two break points at 2-2, and Nadal found a way to hold and that momentum carried him to winning the next seven games.

Djokovic doesn’t let a potential opportunity distract him from the task at hand, and he doesn’t get discouraged.

An example of this is in their first final of the year at Indian Wells. Although he lost the first set, Djokovic played his way to a 4-2 lead in the second. Nadal played a series of outstanding points to break back, but instead of getting down on himself, Djokovic found a way to break back and serve out the set.

It seems as if Djokovic understands that Nadal is capable of hitting shots that no one else can, but the Serb brushes those points off and goes back to playing the match he knows he needs to.

Djokovic has improved all parts of his game, but the improvement of these parts of his game has made him more than a match for Nadal, as well as enabled him to lose only one match this year.

After the Wimbledon final, Nadal said “We can analyze that my game is not bothering him … We have to find how I can bother him. I did in the past. He's in the best moment of his career. I am in one of the best moments of my career, but still not enough for him.”

Good analysis. I must agree that tennis is even more interesting now. I had said in a post earlier this year, that tennis like basketball, is often about the match ups. All other things being equal, Nadal, as a heavy top spin hitting left hander who is extremely fast and generally not prone to errors, is always going to be a tough match up for Fed. Likewise, Djokovic's strenghs match up very well against Nadal. Now that he is both physcially and mentally stronger, it is tough for Rafa to overcome the match up issue.
Could be a very good US Open if Roger plays at the level he did in the French and Rafa comes back strong.
 

Fedace

Banned
But in order to employ this stretegy, Doesn't Djokovic have to be a better athlete than Nadal ?? If not, it sounds like Novak couldn't execute this shot pattern.
 

Spider

Hall of Fame
Djokovic is a complete player with extremely strong backhand and amazing forehand that doesn't break. Moreover, he can defend just about anything thrown at him, and his ROS is the best in the game.

There is virtually no place in the court that Nadal can go to, to exploit Djokovic's game. There really isn't. Djokovic is more talented and much better than Nadal in every aspect of the game.

Soon he will be surpassing all of Nadal's records.
 

Diabl0

New User
Djokovic is a complete player with extremely strong backhand and amazing forehand that doesn't break. Moreover, he can defend just about anything thrown at him, and his ROS is the best in the game.

There is virtually no place in the court that Nadal can go to, to exploit Djokovic's game. There really isn't. Djokovic is more talented and much better than Nadal in every aspect of the game.

Soon he will be surpassing all of Nadal's records.

Lets not make the same mistake as Nadal fans when he emerged as no.1. They were banking on 5 years of dominance with a crazy estimate of 18-20 slams.

Djokovic has the potential to go on a tear winning 2-3 slams for the next few years...but lets wait and see.
 

Spider

Hall of Fame
Lets not make the same mistake as Nadal fans when he emerged as no.1. They were banking on 5 years of dominance with a crazy estimate of 18-20 slams.

Djokovic has the potential to go on a tear winning 2-3 slams for the next few years...but lets wait and see.

Sorry Nadal was never the complete player that Djokovic is currently, so your argument is moot. Djokovic has lost one match this year, and looks like he won't be losing any other match this year. Nadal was never in such a dominant position away from clay.
 

TonyB

Hall of Fame
Sorry Nadal was never the complete player that Djokovic is currently, so your argument is moot. Djokovic has lost one match this year, and looks like he won't be losing any other match this year. Nadal was never in such a dominant position away from clay.


While Djokovic has a "complete game", he isn't invincible and certainly can drop his level on occasion. Federer's game was very "complete" back in 2005-2006, PLUS Federer had a better serve than Djokovic, a better net game, better forehand, and more speed around the court. I'm absolutely stunned every time I watch one of Federer's matches from 2006. His movement is sublime.

So if Djokovic doesn't maintain his absurdly-high level of play, he can most certanily lose to just about anyone in the top 10. We'll see what happens in the next few years.
 
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