How good will Nadal/Djokovic be a 30

[clout]

If their biggest competition is a 36-year old Federer and a bunch of nobodies with a mentality of a 5-year old girl, then I can easily see them compete for majors even then.

Well this couldn’t have aged any better...

 

[Third Serve]

If their biggest competition is a 36-year old Federer and a bunch of nobodies with a mentality of a 5-year old girl, then I can easily see them compete for majors even then.

Excellent prediction.

 

[RaulRamirez]

Fed - and also Rafa and Novak - has aged A LOT better than this thread has!

 

[ChaelAZ]

*chuckle*

You'll be quoting 5 year old poasts of jacksonvile ? LOL.

5 year old poasts....heh.

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

If their biggest competition is a 36-year old Federer and a bunch of nobodies with a mentality of a 5-year old girl, then I can easily see them compete for majors even then.

Woah..
Salute for predicting the future exactly as it turns out to be

 

[Turning Pro]

I love these types of threads

 

[DSH]

 

[MichaelNadal]

Rafa will not be around in his 30s. Neither would be winning Masters like Rodge is winning at his 30s.

The 6th of June 2016, Nadal`s 30th birthday, he will be retired from tennis.
I cant wait!!!

Rafa and Djoker will have both suffered too many injuries by then and have to move to an assisted living facility.

 

[KINGROGER]

If their biggest competition is a 36-year old Federer and a bunch of nobodies with a mentality of a 5-year old girl, then I can easily see them compete for majors even then.

Excellent prediction.
Career inflation era going strong since 2016. Stat padding.

 

[BGod]

If their biggest competition is a 36-year old Federer and a bunch of nobodies with a mentality of a 5-year old girl, then I can easily see them compete for majors even then.

I think they'll be doing much better than people realise.

Haha... If the biggest competition then is a 36 years old Federer, then that would definitely just add to Federer's legacy.

Federer would be winning slams if Djokovic wasnt arguably almost as good as Prime Federer

Nadal and Djokovic can still be winning slams in 4 - 5 years if the next generation isnt as dominant as this one

 

[BringBackSV]

Excellent prediction.
Career inflation era going strong since 2016. Stat padding.

Doesn't get any less dumb the more you say it.

 

[zep]

Excellent prediction.
Career inflation era going strong since 2016. Stat padding.

Nothing beats the 2004-07 stat padding period. At least Djokovic and Nadal are past prime now. If they had a career inflation period in their absolute physical prime, they would have had a lot more slams. Nadal's physical prime (2008-13) is perhaps the strongest era of all time.

 

[BGod]

Nothing beats the 2004-07 stat padding period. At least Djokovic and Nadal are past prime now. If they had a career inflation period in their absolute physical prime, they would have had a lot more slams. Nadal's physical prime (2008-13) is perhaps the strongest era of all time.

Nadal won 10 Slams in that stretch.....

 

[Cupcake]

How could you predict the baldness back then?!

That baldness prediction stood out for me too, lol.

Great old thread to bump. Thanks.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

I miss 2012

 

[titoelcolombiano]

7 years later.... Nadal and Djokovic are winning all the slams and Fed is being Fed he is either Vulturer or Chokerer rarely shows up as anything else.

Very amusing thread.

 

[Bender]

If their biggest competition is a 36-year old Federer and a bunch of nobodies with a mentality of a 5-year old girl, then I can easily see them compete for majors even then.

Nadal will still be winning Roland Garros at age 30. Not sure where Djokovic will be.

I'm not surprised that Federer faded from the slam title scene so quickly.

I think they'll be doing much better than people realise.

Nadal is the only player with a shot at winning slams as late as Agassi won slams, because Nadal at Roland Garros is so difficult to beat, even on a off day, that he will sustain domination into his 30s. Federer meanwhile, can't win slams anymore. And Djokovic is putting too much pressure on his back/shoulder muscles by stretching for wide balls rather than actually using footwork.

Federer would be winning slams if Djokovic wasnt arguably almost as good as Prime Federer

Nadal and Djokovic can still be winning slams in 4 - 5 years if the next generation isnt as dominant as this one

I think Nadal will still be a good player at 30, however, I think he will be bald. I think Djokovic will also still play well at 30, but his nose and face will have grown longer.

TTW once again proving that the only predictions that ever get proven to be true are the ones spouted by trolls

 

[Lew II]

Slams won since turning 28:

Djokovic 44.4%
Nadal 21.7%
Federer 12.2%

 

[tennis_pro]

Slams won since turning 28:

Djokovic 44.4%
Nadal 21.7%
Federer 12.2%

Competition since turning 28:
Federer - peak Nadal/Djokovic
Nadal - Berrettini

 

[junior74]

In before Lew strikes back

 

[RS]

Competition since turning 28:
Federer - peak Nadal/Djokovic
Nadal - Berrettini

Matteo don’t insult yourself.

 

[tennis_pro]

Matteo don’t insult yourself.

and Anderson

 

[tennis_pro]

In before Lew strikes back

This noob couldn't win an argument if his life depended on it. He's a stat vanilla boy. I heard he needs to do an hour of research before he buys an apple.

 

[junior74]

This noob couldn't win an argument if his life depended on it. He's a stat vanilla boy. I heard he needs to do an hour of research before he buys an apple.

Lol
Still waiting for ELO

 

[killerboss]

People been predicting Rafa's retirement even back then and here he is at year-end no 1, lmao.

 

[Lew II]

Competition since turning 28:
Federer - peak Nadal/Djokovic
Nadal - Berrettini

Competition before turning 28:

Djokovic - peak Nadal/Federer
Federer - Baghdatis

 

[wang07]

 

[tennis_pro]

Competition before turning 28:

Djokovic - peak Nadal/Federer
Federer - Baghdatis

Number of top 10 players Baghdatis beat before facing Federer: 3
Number of top 10 players Berrettini beat before facing Nadal: 0

But I guess there's some obscure stat that proves me wrong, bring it on stat vanilla boy.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Nothing beats the 2004-07 stat padding period. At least Djokovic and Nadal are past prime now. If they had a career inflation period in their absolute physical prime, they would have had a lot more slams. Nadal's physical prime (2008-13) is perhaps the strongest era of all time.

An amazing example of getting it perfectly wrong. Fred enjoying easier time for some of his peak/prime was less significant since he could've won most of those slams against fiercer opposition (considering it took peak Djokodal a tough five-setter to beat a slightly declined Federer except in their respective pet slams), but now that all of them are visibly on the decline, harder competition would've plausibly shut them out of titles, again except for their respective pet slams.

 

[RS]

and Anderson

Thats better.

 

[tennis_pro]

Thats better.

and Verdasco, Youzhny, Robredo, Gasquet, Rublev, Schwartzman, Medvedev - you know, Nadal's typical QF-SF-F opponents at the US Open.

 

[RS]

and Verdasco, Youzhny, Robredo, Gasquet, Rublev, Schwartzman, Medvedev - you know, Nadal's typical QF-SF-F opponents at the US Open.

Matteo dont worry about them you are better.

 

[Lew II]

Number of top 10 players Baghdatis beat before facing Federer: 3
Number of top 10 players Berrettini beat before facing Nadal: 0

But I guess there's some obscure stat that proves me wrong, bring it on stat vanilla boy.

Medvedev >>> Baghdatis

Why do you compare a finalist to a semifinalist?

 

[Lew II]

@tennis_pro

Slams won beating the highest ranked opponent:

Federer 25%
Nadal 52.6%
Djokovic 66.7%

Slams won beating one of the two highest ranked opponents:

Federer 40%
Nadal 68.4%
Djokovic 81.25%

Slams won beating one of the three highest ranked opponents:

Federer 50%
Nadal 78.9%
Djokovic 100%

 

[tennis_pro]

@tennis_pro

Slams won beating the highest ranked opponent:

Federer 25%
Nadal 52.6%
Djokovic 66.7%

Slams won beating one of the two highest ranked opponents:

Federer 40%
Nadal 68.4%
Djokovic 81.25%

Slams won beating one of the three highest ranked opponents:

Federer 50%
Nadal 78.9%
Djokovic 100%

Yes we know that Federer sucked for being unable to beat the top ranked player in a Slam in 2004-2007.

 

[junior74]

 

[Lew II]

Yes we know that Federer sucked for being unable to beat the top ranked player in a Slam in 2004-2007.

Nope.

Highest ranked opponent means he should have beaten the #2 if he was #1.

 

[junior74]

Yes we know that Federer sucked for being unable to beat the top ranked player in a Slam in 2004-2007.

He is even better at beating himself than Nadovic are.

 

[Lew II]

2 years spending all my days on this forum and people don't know yet how to interpet my stats

 

[RS]

@Lew II
Believe it or not a lot of people agree with your stats......

 

[Lew II]

@Lew II
Believe it or not a lot of people agree with your stats......

It's not about agreeing. I expect that after two years they know that by "highest ranked opponent" I don't mean "world #1".

 

[Lew II]

Djokovic in 14 slams beat either Federer, Nadal or Murray+Wawrinka (combo)



Only "easy" slams were RG16 and UO18 where he beat just, respectively, Murray and Del Potro.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

TTW once again proving that the only predictions that ever get proven to be true are the ones spouted by trolls

Hood man is anything but a troll. In fact, he is missed as he doesn't post any more (or at least I haven't seen him post in a long time). You can make a point about the others too, although the opposing fanbases will be quick to swamp the thread with opposite suggestions.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

7 years later.... Nadal and Djokovic are winning all the slams and Fed is being Fed he is either Vulturer or Chokerer rarely shows up as anything else.

Very amusing thread.

Amids the mostly amazingly correct predictions your comment looks like whining just to troll, which is what you are doing.

 

[Tiki-Taka]

Nadal will be retired well before then,but Rolaids will still be chugging along. He's going to be contending for slams for years and years,imo.

Looks like this poster is the one who retired well before then. Rafa is still doing alright.

 

[tennis_pro]

Nope.

Highest ranked opponent means he should have beaten the #2 if he was #1.

Yeah totally Fed's fault that Nadal was so good on hard courts in 2004-2007.

 

[Lew II]

Yeah totally Fed's fault that Nadal was so good on hard courts in 2004-2007.

Not his fault but he was lucky the #2-4 were so weak.

 

[RS]

@Lew II
People could be trolling you about the 04-07 thing. I think they know you mean the next highest ranked player it is kinda obvious.

 

[blablavla]

@tennis_pro

Slams won beating the highest ranked opponent:

Federer 25%
Nadal 52.6%
Djokovic 66.7%

Slams won beating one of the two highest ranked opponents:

Federer 40%
Nadal 68.4%
Djokovic 81.25%

Slams won beating one of the three highest ranked opponents:

Federer 50%
Nadal 78.9%
Djokovic 100%

you do know that highest ranked opponent does NOT equal to the toughest opponent in a given period of time, don't you?
for example, how many matches Kafelnikov lost in a row after reaching the #1?

the player in the QF, had to win 4 BO5 matches within less than 2 weeks.
the player in the SF, had to win 5 BO5 matches within less than 2 weeks.
the player in the final, had to win 6 BO5 matches during 2 weeks.
which makes them very strong in a given point in time.

 

[KINGROGER]

Nothing beats the 2004-07 stat padding period. At least Djokovic and Nadal are past prime now. If they had a career inflation period in their absolute physical prime, they would have had a lot more slams. Nadal's physical prime (2008-13) is perhaps the strongest era of all time.

04-07 wasn’t stat padding. Federer beat many quality contemporaries and also held off up coming world class young players.

If they had their prime at same time as Fed, they’d nowhere near 5 Wimbledon or 4 USO that’s for sure. Fed drew the short straw.