How to spin a racket for serve without scuffing?

Jer Yu

Rookie
Is there an efficient way to spin a racket without scuffing when deciding a tie breaker, or for the first server? The racket I am currently using is a blade 2016 (v6.0). The problem when spinning the blade with the hand is that its easy to see whether or not it's W or M even when you cover the buttcap. You can see what I'm talking about if you look at the blade online or in person.
 

Jer Yu

Rookie
Spinning it with the hand is when you turn the racket with one hand covering the buttcap and telling your opponent to say stop
 

Traffic

Hall of Fame
cover the butt cap with your hand when you spin.
If there are tell-tale signs on the racquet of the orientation, then cover the butt cap, but spin the racquet behind your back until they say to stop.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
The coin idea sure works...

Even though the racquet has graphics on it that can give away the M or W, you can have your opponent make the call before you make the spin, then do the spin while you're covering the butt cap, but make sure you're looking at them while you perform the spin and let them read the result.
 

Jer Yu

Rookie
The coin idea sure works...

Even though the racquet has graphics on it that can give away the M or W, you can have your opponent make the call before you make the spin, then do the spin while you're covering the butt cap, but make sure you're looking at them while you perform the spin and let them read the result.
Do I just stop it at anytime I want?
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Do I just stop it at anytime I want?

When I do that sort of spin, I let my spinning racquet's throat flop to a stop on my shoulder (laying relatively flat) while I'm covering the butt cap. Then when I uncover the butt cap, it's facing ahead for my opponents to see. Instead of coming to rest on the court where it can get scuffed, it comes to rest on my shoulder beside my head. Fair enough, since I can't physically look at it and steer the outcome.
 

Jer Yu

Rookie
When I do that sort of spin, I let my spinning racquet's throat flop to a stop on my shoulder (laying relatively flat) while I'm covering the butt cap. Then when I uncover the butt cap, it's facing ahead for my opponents to see. Instead of coming to rest on the court where it can get scuffed, it comes to rest on my shoulder beside my head. Fair enough, since I can't physically look at it and steer the outcome.
Just wondering, do you hover the racket above your shoulder and spin it with one hand on the Handle and the other on the buttcap?
 

Jer Yu

Rookie
Why are you spinning a racket for TBs? Serving order should already be established. Or are you playing TBs w/o playing sets?
I sometimes play for fun/competitively with friends in a nearby park. We use tiebreakers if the set is something like 10-10 and will go on forever.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Just wondering, do you hover the racket above your shoulder and spin it with one hand on the Handle and the other on the buttcap?

Pretty much yes. I hold the racquet vertically with the head up, spin it with my gripping hand (let the gripping hand go loose so the racquet spins), and let it fall horizontal on my shoulder while my non-gripping hand is covering the butt cap.
 
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Chadillac

Guest
Tell your opponent you dont wanna scrape your racket. Look at the hologram/serial by the grip. You will know if its up or down :)

Can do a 180 twist if needed
 

Traffic

Hall of Fame
It's impossible not to have huge marks over your racket as you play stronger players
Doubles guys have rackets like they survived a war zone
My son's racquets are pretty beat up. I used to get stressed about scuffing it for a racquet spin. But now I don't care. But interestingly, he still spins it in his hand while cover the butt cap. Typically he just lets someone else spin. But he plays with a PS97LS. So no tell-tale graphics other than the laser edged Federer's face on the inside of the throat.
 

newpball

Legend
Rock paper scissors isn't really 50/50 chance. There's a paper with research on how to win more often.
Show it!

The ideal strategy in RPS is to reach a Nash equilibrium, i.e. use each option 1/3 of the time completely random, unless your opponent does not, then you can take advantage of predicting his pattern , unless your opponent actually sets you up!

:D
 
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esgee48

G.O.A.T.
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Traffic

Hall of Fame
I rather spin the frame in my hand ala Fuzz Nation. I also have a dot of red paint on the butt cap that indicates Up or Down. Helps for those frames that don't have obvious markings like Babolat or Pro Kennex [tho they do, but you have to know which side means Up.]
My sister has a beer and wine sticker on her butt cap. Though she plays with a Wilson which is probably one of the easier symbols to decipher. Babolat and Volkl...sheesh...:rolleyes:
 
I spin it, and right before it falls I stick my shoe under it, let it fall on my shoe, then slide my shoe out, and it just drops a couple inches off my toes onto the court. Hope this helps.

Btw, dont know why i do this, my rackets get very scuffed from playing anyways, but scuffing doesnt matter.
 
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PittsburghDad

Guest
Holy smokes. If your racket aint scuffed all up anyway, you ain't working. What is going on out there.....
 

S&V-not_dead_yet

Talk Tennis Guru
Show it!

The ideal strategy in RPS is to reach a Nash equilibrium, i.e. use each option 1/3 of the time completely random, unless your opponent does not, then you can take advantage of predicting his pattern , unless your opponent actually sets you up!

:D

Great: now, in addition to worrying about topspin and footwork, I have to try and achieve a Nash equilibrium! Tennis is so complicated sometimes. :)
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
Is there an efficient way to spin a racket without scuffing when deciding a tie breaker, or for the first server? The racket I am currently using is a blade 2016 (v6.0). The problem when spinning the blade with the hand is that its easy to see whether or not it's W or M even when you cover the buttcap. You can see what I'm talking about if you look at the blade online or in person.


I spin it in the hand, but a lot of times I grab a wristband, make sure one side has the logo up, then throw it up and let them call it up or down in the air.
 

S&V-not_dead_yet

Talk Tennis Guru
Get a heavy coin that makes a satisfying clink on the court when tossed; Spanish doubloons work well but they have a tendency of disappearing.
 

donquijote

G.O.A.T.
Tell your opponent that you don't want to scuff your racquet. Choose W or M in your mind and ask him to guess. Trust me, whatever he says you can win the toss. Winning is everything.
 
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