mike danny
Bionic Poster
1 slam, 2 extra slam finals, the Olympics, 3 masters, the WTF and world no.1.
I think it's pretty close.
I think it's pretty close.
Is Murray's 2016 the best 1 slam season?
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Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Lendl's '85 season is still probably ahead although it is very close. In terms of most ranking points I'm guessing Djokovic's 2012 would be considered number 1 but I think Murray's overall achievements this year are better.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Murray's 2016 and Djokovic' 2012 are nearly identical. And to make matters even more interesting, both seasons were Olympics seasons.
Yeah, but Murray's 2016 is slightly better. Olympic Gold vs. Olympic 4th place and 78-9 vs. 75-12.
metsman
G.O.A.T.
Djokovic faced far far far tougher competition.
InsideOut900
Legend
I think he reffered strictly by achievements.
Because levelwise it is still debatable if 2016 is better than Murray's own 2012 season,let alone 2012 Djoker who topped that peak Murray clearly.
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Can't disagree with that to be honest.
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Actually there's half a chance that in 5-10 years time we'll be pining away wishing that Murray was #1 again when guys from the "lost generation" are #1 just because Murray and company are old and washed up.
BVSlam
Professional
Dunno. Djokovic's 2012 and 2014 are pretty much identical aside from the Olympics, which is pretty much the tiebreaker in terms of achievements. If you look at it as black and white as that, then yeah it's probably the best 1-slam season. Djokovic did win 1 more Masters in 2014 though, and I think, to go down that route, that Djokovic had tougher competition in 2012 and even 2014 overall.
I think that they're fairly similar, but what makes Murray's seem better might be that his 2016 results are a positive surprise for him, especially just after RG when it looked like Djokovic would have another 2011/2015-like season, while 2012 and 2014 were disappointing for Djokovic after what happened in 2011. Murray doesn't have a season that's overall close to his 2016 in terms of achievement, so it feels better than Djokovic's 1-slam seasons which look weak compared to his 2011 and 2015 (and even 2016 with two slams and four masters and complete domination of the first half). Not counting 2013 btw since Djokovic didn't get the YE#1.
I think that they're fairly similar, but what makes Murray's seem better might be that his 2016 results are a positive surprise for him, especially just after RG when it looked like Djokovic would have another 2011/2015-like season, while 2012 and 2014 were disappointing for Djokovic after what happened in 2011. Murray doesn't have a season that's overall close to his 2016 in terms of achievement, so it feels better than Djokovic's 1-slam seasons which look weak compared to his 2011 and 2015 (and even 2016 with two slams and four masters and complete domination of the first half). Not counting 2013 btw since Djokovic didn't get the YE#1.
Booger
Hall of Fame
The lost generation can get bent and disappear from history. I'm sure Raonic will win a couple weak sauce wimbledons, but otherwise we're going to skip right to Zverev, Thiem, Shapavalov, etc.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Zverev and Shapovalov may be good, but I'm not sold on Thiem. Never have been.
DerekNoleFam1
Hall of Fame
Djoker 2014 imo, along with Lendl 1985 and Mac 1983.
Murray not far behind.
Murray not far behind.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Ivan 1985 and it's not even close. Lendl had fierce and brutal competition... Murray has had nobody post-June.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Agreed. It's early but they both look better to me as well.
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