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I meant 2-2 with fedal? How so if Nadal won the FO and it is not even clear Fed would have won USO had he gone past Djoko.
I meant 2-2 with fedal? How so if Nadal won the FO and it is not even clear Fed would have won USO had he gone past Djoko.
I meant 2-2 with fedal
What favorWhat is Fedal ? Are they a single player? You are pretending as if Federer+Nadal are a team. If Fed had beaten Novak then there is a possibility that he could have lost to Nadal at the US Open. So Nadal would be on 23 slams today, Federer did himself a favor by choking.
Its just very clear 2011 Djokovic is a less advanced inferior player than 2015 djokovic...What is Fedal ? Are they a single player? You are pretending as if Federer+Nadal are a team. If Fed had beaten Novak then there is a possibility that he could have lost to Nadal at the US Open. So Nadal would be on 23 slams today, Federer did himself a favor by choking.
What favor
He would have taken down Nole twice and fedfans can always use match up card vs Nadal. Fed would be in no lose situation in the final.
Instead he is now labelled as choker goat.
Nole slowed Nadal slightly. He slowed Federer by a lot. The same lot of you who hoped for Nadal to be injured knew Federer is fitter. So without Nole, fed would easily be at 26 slams. 3 AO and 3 Wimby.Fedfans cannot use any card, the fact that such cards exist automatically erases Federer's case for goathood. Nadal has been dumping on Federer's legacy since mid 2000s, everybody knew that Fed was no GOAT since he was so weak against a rival but we were all hoping Nadal would get injured and retire, people wanted to see how far could Nadal go for the H2H to be taken seriously or not..... and Nadal happened to emerge ahead of Federer.... that literally closed the gates for Federer..... So I would say it is good that Djokovic emerged, otherwise Federer would have clearly looked like an Agassi of his times behind Nadal.... at least now they both are close enough, Nole slowed down Nadal a lot by emerging..... so yes Fed did himself a favor by losing that SF.
Federer: almost, nearly world-classExactly, in what this forum considers his best season ever Djokovic found himself millimeters away from splitting the grand slams 2-2 with Federer...
Pretty much agree here. This is nothing like beating old geyser Fed at W'19. Even though he won the SF by the skin of his teeth in 2011, and with some luck on his side, but at the end of the day, he still won. Then he went on to trounce Nadal in the final.2011 USO Djokovic v Federer and then Djokovic going on to beat Nadal in the final is what makes it the GOAT season. That was the moment that you knew Djokovic is the GOAT.
Pretty much agree here. This is nothing like beating old geyser Fed at W'19. Even though he won the SF by the skin of his teeth in 2011, and with some luck on his side, but at the end of the day, he still won. Then he went on to trounce Nadal in the final.
This is peak Nadal we are talking about, and maybe not peak Fedr, but still near prime. The only other person that has beaten both prime Fedal back-to-back for a slam was Delpo, but I rate Djoko's more impressive due to Nadal playing better in 2011 than in 2009.
YesUO11 is the 12th time in a row of nonclay slam draw Nole-Fed on same side. Of course clay slam draw Nole-Rafa almost alway same side, even same quarter....THEY really want Fed-Rafa final
The collective slam leadership should've been tried by tribunal and shot.UO11 is the 12th time in a row of nonclay slam draw Nole-Fed on same side. Of course clay slam draw Nole-Rafa almost alway same side, even same quarter....THEY really want Fed-Rafa final
2011 is peak Nadal, a 25 year old Nadal free of injury and conditioned at 100%. Most finals, more top 10 wins than in 2010, and a great record over fed and Murray. But 2011 belonged to the djoker, no questions about that. Djokovic just had the higher peak, simple as that.Peak Nadal is 2008 and 2011 isn't close... also Djokovics 2015 is best easily. Couple match points away from only winning 2 slams in 2011 which would've been twice eliminated by non peak Federer, clearly 2015 Djokovic is a better player