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John Inverdale didn't apologise, the BBC did.
Here is the quote:He said (going by memory) "she's not a good athlete, it's good to see a real tennis player win, she can really wield that racquet, she waves it around like an artist weaves a paintbrush".
It was right at the end so when the match is up on youtube we can check if you like?
Here is the quote:
"It's so nice to see someone who was born to be a tennis player. She's not necessarily the most natural athlete you will ever see, but someone who wields a racquet like a paintbrush and she did her own version of Picasso - it was unexpected and amazing.
"She couldn't possibly have thought at any stage that she would have been able to pull off a Grand Slam victory or a Wimbledon triumph.
"It absolutely will inspire millions who will all be thinking, 'Hey, anything is possible!'."
If she wields a racquet like a paintbrush, why was it so unexpected and amazing?
Why couldn't she have possibly thought at any stage she would win a Grand Slam?
Why would millions of non-athlete, non-tennis players now think anything is possible?
Litmus test: Would he have said the same thing about Lisicki winning?
Answer: No
Here is the quote:
"It's so nice to see someone who was born to be a tennis player. She's not necessarily the most natural athlete you will ever see, but someone who wields a racquet like a paintbrush and she did her own version of Picasso - it was unexpected and amazing.
"She couldn't possibly have thought at any stage that she would have been able to pull off a Grand Slam victory or a Wimbledon triumph.
"It absolutely will inspire millions who will all be thinking, 'Hey, anything is possible!'."
If she wields a racquet like a paintbrush, why was it so unexpected and amazing?
Why couldn't she have possibly thought at any stage she would win a Grand Slam?
Why would millions of non-athlete, non-tennis players now think anything is possible?
Litmus test: Would he have said the same thing about Lisicki winning?
Answer: No
I think this is the problem. It's just like watching football with women, if you show them amazing skill by Ronaldinho or Rooney they just say how ugly they are because they don't like football.
In the same way, when men watch WTA we just look at the women a lot of the time.
http://twitter.com/LaurensJulien/status/353846437152428032Bartoli: "I invite him (J. Inverdale) to come to see me in my dress and high heels tonight at the tournament bal. It could change his mind."
McEnroe did a fair comment, he judged an athlete regardless of gender by his physical build
If she wields a racquet like a paintbrush, why was it so unexpected and amazing?
Why couldn't she have possibly thought at any stage she would win a Grand Slam?
Why would millions of non-athlete, non-tennis players now think anything is possible?
Litmus test: Would he have said the same thing about Lisicki winning?
Answer: No
Looks like that Inverdale guy has some fans... Ugly stuff...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOgELrKCQAQ6NFE.png:large
He seemed to be bending over backwards to complement her in spite of herself.
Both comments two sides of the same coin, in my opinion. John's an old hand at this though.
Ok, he shouldn't have said it on radio, but was it an unreasonable comment?
“Do you think Bartoli’s dad told her when she was little 'You’re never going to be a looker? You’ll never be a Sharapova, so you have to be scrappy and fight.’”
First of all, she doesn't look like Sharapova. How many times has she appeared in the Guys only: best legs and other best female issues thread? Not many I guess.
Secondly, if you did have a daughter who didn't look like a model, what would you tell her? Wouldn't it be reasonable to say that you have to work hard or study.
I just read that Bartoli's father made her play right-handed when she is a lefty? Why the hell did he do that? It probably would have been a great advantage for her.
Well, I don't think she's a "looker" either, but I hardly agree with a comment like this being made, and beauty is subjective anyway. He was asking for trouble with a comment like this and he rightfully got it. Some things are best left unsaid even if they are what you really think.
I will cut you a little slack since it is obvious based on your statement that you are young and are not a parent. But that is the most ridiculous, ignorant statement that any loving father could ever say to a daughter. Any loving father looks at his daughter and sees the most beautiful girl in the world.
As I watched the finals of both the women's and men's finals there were many instances where the TV showed the people in the crowd. 99.99% of the crowd were not "model" worthy and apparently their parents must have not been "model" worthy. So I guess that the British audience is worthless and the only way to make it is to work hard and study. So stupid.
Stepanek has never been called ugly and nobody noticed ARod going bald!
No I wasn't saying women are more judged by their appearance than men, I was saying sports presenters don't talk about male footballers attractiveness and it should be the same with female tennis players.
Yeah I think we are actually in agreement.
No, your metabolism does not decline - you only gain weight if you make bad food choices and don't exercise.LOL. Bartoli is not 50 though so I don't know why you are bringing that up. As you age your metabolism declines and you gain weight easier. Bartoli, and any other player, will certainly not be spared by the effects of aging either. Have you seen Lendl these days?
That's only because most of them are men...and it wouldn't make sense for a man to be sitting in the both talking about how broad Dwight Howard's shoulders are. I promise you this. Most women that watch him play could care less about his footwork in the paint or what his averages are. They watch for the enjoyment of looking at him. So women don't need to complain too much. I mean the guy shouldn't have said that on T.V. but it is what it is.
No, your metabolism does not decline - you only gain weight if you make bad food choices and don't exercise.
Not Gabby Logan, but you hear it all the time from other male commentators. For instance Keown is often called not much of a looker. Ronaldinho was insulted for his looks. Ronaldo called goofy etc.
That being said the comments about Bartoli are unacceptable really and could be very hurtful.
Are you serious about this? :-?
AM has a point here. Go to the Guys Only thread-most of the pictures are of the pale-skinned, light-haired players. (I find it refreshing to see Ivanovic, Jankovic, Robson, Heather Watson, and other dark haired beauties every now and then).....
Maybe they'd play more freely if they weren't under the constant pressure of having their looks evaluated and criticized while they're playing.
Not only on court but also off court does she score championship points!Marion Bartoli invites John Inverdale to the Wimbledon winners’ ball to change his mind over her image
"And on Sunday, she then challenged the presenter to see her dressed up at the ball, writing: ‘I invite him to come to see me in my dress and high heels tonight at the tournament ball. It could change his mind.’"
http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/07/marion-bartoli-invites-john-inverdale-to-the-wimbledon-winners-ball-in-order-to-change-his-mind-over-her-image-3872165/
Objectively, she is not bad at all, what's up with that idiot?
Well, I personally find Bartoli, and her fiery yet friendly personality, more attractive than Sharapova. Attraction is just not as straight forward as Inverdale likes to make out.
+1
I think she's great, and interesting, which is bit of a change from the bimbo jockettes that usually dominate the game..
I still remember Marion when she was a teenager , she was slim and rather attractive . Then she started gaining weight .
But back in those days she looked hot .
I think you guys and the title of the article are taking it a bit out of context. He shouldn't have said that but still with the full context being
“Do you think Bartoli’s dad told her when she was little 'You’re never going to be a looker? You’ll never be a Sharapova, so you have to be scrappy and fight.’
I think he was referring to her determination being that she is able to compete at this level even though she looks like she is out of shape.
So Sharapova only wins because of her looks.