Kyrgios is the best thing in tennis right now

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Zoid

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Just when you think you've got NK figured out, in one week he starts a match with an underhand serve, calls Novak cringe-worthy, Rafa salty, and Fed the GOAT.

Mercurial is often thrown around but Kyrgios wears this word on his heart. A complete lack of fear of the big 3 - some say disrespect, and perhaps it is a bit of that, but I'm so happy younger guys like tsitsi and Kyrgios are stepping up and not afraid to take them on.

I want Kyrgios-Djok first round at the French - with Kygs serving it out with an underhand serve ace, followed by a teasing display of Novak chest-throws to the Parisian crowd. I think there would be jeers, whistles, and some hardcore ND fans jumping the court with foaming mouths.

Novak's post-match presser would be met with a low-pulled ND cap and plenty of purse-lipped frowns.

Nick's would be hilarious, "Like, you know, I just play the way i like to play, bro. I'm having fun out there, like, you know, fun?"

Hopefully he would follow this up with a second-round loss to a #nextgen journeyboy like Ymer or Fratangelo.

I'm expecting plenty more underhand serves this summer, and I think he will be credited for bringing it back into mainstream tennis as a legitimate tactic. Rafa won't be standing too far back next time I'm sure.
 
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Robert F

Hall of Fame
I don't mind all his shenanigans. Just wish sometimes he'd still keep it fairly respectful. It's a hard line to walk being brutally honest and chaotic that he is.

Tennis might need him for a while when Fed retires to help draw crowds until someone else steps up. I'm amazed Nick's stuff doesn't show up more in the general sports media. Still seems limited to the tennis outlets.
 
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Lleytonstation

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Robert F said:
I don't mind all his shenanigans. Just with sometimes he'd still keep it fairly respectful. It's a hard line to walk being brutally honest and chaotic that he is.

Tennis might need him for a while when Fed retires to help draw crowds until someone else steps up. I'm amazed Nick's stuff doesn't show up more in the general sports media. Still seems limited to the tennis outlets.
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Only tennis highlights you will see in sports outlets is from winners. If NK started to win, he would be bigger than Agassi in the 90's and maybe bigger than McEnroe.

But he needs to win tournaments, not matches.
 
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BorgTheGOAT

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I really like this guy. He speaks his mind and what he says about Nadal and Djokovic is actually on point. I also prefer that players create some rivalries off court which makes it all more interesting. For years now most players have been way to respectful towards the big three, just remember Berdych and his stupid fangirling of Nadal in Twitter. I can understand it if he was somewhere around 500 and no direct competitor to Nadal, but as a guy who should fight for slams this was outright ridiculous and also partly explains why the big three constantly destroyed all other players over the years. Kyrgios tennis ability is somewhat limited unfortunately but he does not show fear or respect to the big three which also explains why he is doing better against them than most others.
 
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Mark Asher

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Nick is a lot of fun. I wish he won more. He needs to stop tanking when he gets bored.

Djokovic is a nice guy by most accounts. I do think Nick is right when he says Novak craves to be loved the way Federer is loved. Nadal is a good guy too, but Nick is right when he points out that Rafa does tend to whine a bit when he loses. "It's the worst I've played on clay in 14 years!" Well, dude, and whose fault is that?

I hope Nick does well at the FO. I'd love to see him play one of these guys. :)
 
Karma Tennis

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conjoshruk said:
Lol, even though i think most of his comments are so absurd, a part of me can't help but like his honesty and the fact he doesnt care what anyone thinks.
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Which of his comments do you think are "absurd"?

I don't always agree with his views or his behaviour at times. But I think he is pretty spot on with his descriptions about many of the players they are discussing.

He's probably in a far better position to make a comment than any of us are.

And I do think Nick does care about what others think. He just wants them to think that he "doesn't care". Because if he really didn't care, he could just give the whole playing tennis thing up. There are plenty of other things Nick can do in Australia and in spite of what he says, he would be pretty successful at all of them.
 
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Zoid said:
Just when you think you've got NK figured out, in one week he starts a match with an underhand serve, calls Novak cringe-worthy, Rafa salty, and Fed the GOAT.

Mercurial is often thrown around but Kyrgios wears this word on his heart. A complete lack of fear of the big 3 - some say disrespect, and perhaps it is a bit of that, but I'm so happy younger guys like tsitsi and Kyrgios are stepping up and not afraid to take them on.

I want Kyrgios-Djok first round at the French - with Kygs serving it out with an underhand serve ace, followed by a teasing display of Novak chest-throws to the Parisian crowd. I think there would be jeers, whistles, and some hardcore ND fans jumping the court with foaming mouths.

Novak's post-match presser would be met with a low-pulled ND cap and plenty of purse-lipped frowns.

Nick's would be hilarious, "Like, you know, I just play the way i like to play, bro. I'm having fun out there, like, you know, fun?"

Hopefully he would follow this up with a second-round loss to a #nextgen journeyboy like Ymer or Fratangelo.

I'm expecting plenty more underhand serves this summer, and I think he will be credited for bringing it back into mainstream tennis as a legitimate tactic. Rafa won't be standing too far back next time I'm sure.
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Yeah I think it’s significantly more likely that he never wins another match against the big3 than ur scenario playing out
 
yokied

yokied

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It's good to see some folks taking a break from the geometric means to get excited over something slightly closer to the way the world perceives Djokovic. You guys realise tennis is a fight, not a popularity competition right? It's strange that such a tough fighter as Djokovic has such soft, insecure fans with monumental (pun intended) chips on their shoulders. I can't believe they had that thread removed. All Kyrgios said was what a lot of us have already said and discussed many times before: Djokovic's act is pretty phoney and very transparent.

I've said it many times before and I'll say it again: Novak's biggest missed opportunity is the chance to become the best tennis villain since McEnroe. He had it all but threw it all away for what? Sponsorships with Seiko, Uniqlo, Head, Lacoste. There's nothing more tragic than pretending you're happy 24-7.
 
Sysyphus

Sysyphus

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Zoid said:
Just when you think you've got NK figured out, in one week he starts a match with an underhand serve, calls Novak cringe-worthy, Rafa salty, and Fed the GOAT.
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when you put like that, I agree that he is on to something.
 
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OP must be a wrestling fan or an aficionado of telenovelas.

I suppose I confess to a certain morbid fascination as to what this idiot will do next, but no I’ll say watching Fed at 37 or Djokovic going for a second 4 in a row are far superior storylines.

There are some really interesting rivalries shaping up amongst next gen. Kygrios is destined to end up on the periphery, a neo villain with a bad haircut.
 
Pmasterfunk

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Zoid said:
I want Kyrgios-Djok first round at the French - with Kygs serving it out with an underhand serve ace, followed by a teasing display of Novak chest-throws to the Parisian crowd. I think there would be jeers, whistles, and some hardcore ND fans jumping the court with foaming mouths.

Novak's post-match presser would be met with a low-pulled ND cap and plenty of purse-lipped frowns.

Nick's would be hilarious, "Like, you know, I just play the way i like to play, bro. I'm having fun out there, like, you know, fun?"
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One can always dream
 
I Am Finnish

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Kyrgios is the best thing in tennis right now?




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mental midget

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nicks comments on djokovic sound about right but then again who doesn’t want to be liked? thing is, i think djokovic would attract more fans if his public persona fit his playing style. people like to put other people in boxes:

feds game has panache and so does he; borg was an icy grinder and stayed pretty quiet; boris was big and flamboyant, as was his game; edberg stylish and elegant all-around; agassi was flashy onand off the court.

these “holistic propositions” give people a handle to hold on to. novak’s problem is he’s a complicated guy, with a more curious and introspective personality than his grim metronomic grinding game would suggest. he’s got no “thing” in the public eye. if he were willing to play the villain he’d perversely engender more fan support, i could almost guarantee it. but that’s not him, or at least, how he wants to see himself.
 
Karma Tennis

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SystemicAnomaly said:
Beware of the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will...
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Beware of Stupid Tennis Umpires who do not heed the Players' requests to control the crowd at critical moments in a tennis match.

If it had been Roger ... the Umpire probably would have gotten down from his chair and gone over and personally slapped the spectator who was disrupting Kyrgios during his Service motion.
 
SystemicAnomaly

SystemicAnomaly

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Karma Tennis said:
Beware of Stupid Tennis Umpires who do not heed the Players' requests to control the crowd at critical moments in a tennis match.

If it had been Roger ... the Umpire probably would have gotten down from his chair and gone over and personally slapped the spectator who was disrupting Kyrgios during his Service motion.
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How is life in FantasyLand? Sure, let's blame others for Nick's outrageous antics...

Kyrgios has a history of controversy while playing. Blatant tanking on more than one occasion. Extreme disrespect for opponents and for the game -- while playing matches. He was given multiple code violations for obscenities and racket-smashing during the 2014 U.S. Open. He’s received multiple fines at Wimbledon and the Australian Open for cursing. He also received an eight-week ban for allegedly not giving his best effort during a 2016 match at the Shanghai Masters... and on and on and on.
 
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mwym

Professional
SystemicAnomaly said:
That's not personality... that's a character flaw.

Let's not confuse personality with personality disorder.
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Or it might be just a simple case insufficient intelligence for this sport. A dead giveaway is the fact that he struggles with trivial rules of conduct because he cannot get why he should comply no matter how he feels. Exactly like a child with below average intelligence included in a class of regular pupils.

He is not able to grasp very simple stuff, that's all. A sort of a yet another victim of limitless inclusion doing damage masked as help.
 
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Colin

Professional
Oh yes, honey, Kyrgios is giving me everything these days — provocateur on the court and off, sassy social media, petulant podcasts, resting troll face and an episode of Clay Court Makeover: Extreme Edition.

I think many of us can agree this has been the best clay season in a while, with the return of Roger, Nadal's inability to make a final (um, let's call that "the unpredictability factor," and not Schadenfreude *wink*), Rome's raincheck buy-one-get-one-free day of enticing double-duty matches, and my concurrent, fortuitous discovery of the joys of premium boxed wine. But Kyrgios won't settle for anything but being the belle of this red-dirt ball.

Let's start with his conversation with Ben. Kyrgios didn't set out to spill tea, but girl just couldn't help herself! Ben was just baiting Nick — like waving a bloody deer carcass in front of a tiger who's spent the week on a vegan diet. These two could gossip for hours like a pair of Golden Girls sharing a cheesecake on the lanai. And I'm loving it, especially when Nick tells truths about Novak's cringe-inducing need to be loved (if only he had a licensed therapist instead of Pepe) and Rafa's salty defeats. Has Nick been reading my private TTW conversations with vive le beau? (Probably not since he didn't discuss the Bull's ongoing struggles with inanimate objects, his time-wasting habits, fake medical timeouts, self-serving rule-change ideas or the percentage of crusty fecal residue left in his post-match unmentionables.)

I do have to point out, however, that Ben is a horrible journalist. When Nick lamented the fact that somebody can't say a proper hello to him even when they shower naked next to each other, Ben failed to inquire about the biggest and smallest phalluses on tour. This kind of reportorial oversight is frankly irresponsible. The New York Times contributor could have at least had Nick confirm or deny the veracity of Verdasco's attributes in his days as a B-list tennis player moonlighting as a B-list underwear model. (All the "news" that fits in a low-rise brief, or something like that.)

Of course, this conversation was only a warm-up to his on-court entertainment, and I don't mean the tweeners and underhand serves. Nick was exiled to a far-flung court as even the Big Three divided their time between the top two courts. And Nick was not having the tacky furniture choices. Aren't Italians known for they style? He Marie Kondo'd that discount-store camping chair and decided it didn't bring him joy and flung it from his sight. He didn't need an elaborate throne (let's reserve such ostentation for Daenerys Stormborn and Roger Basel-born, First of His Name, the GOAT, King of Grass, the Lord of Lindt, Baron of Barilla, Breaker of David Ferrer and Father of Eagles). But at the very least they could have provided a tasteful settee, a cashmere throw and a few decorative pillows.

If it was a loss on the tennis court, it was a victory for aesthetic determination. In the echoing words of Jimmy Connors (one of his spiritual fathers, along with Mac and Nasty), that chair was an abortion and Nick was Alabama and Georgia all in one — he was not having it. And the best part? He gets another opportunity to preserve his head-to-head against Djokovic. And, as Nick mentioned in his conversation with Ben, if Novak can't beat Nick then there's no chance he will become the greatest of all time.
 
Karma Tennis

Karma Tennis

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SystemicAnomaly said:
... has a history of controversy while playing... Extreme disrespect for opponents and for the game -- while playing matches... was given multiple code violations for obscenities... received multiple fines .
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When did we start talking about Serena?

Nothing in your post changes what I said. It is the Umpire's job to protect the player and that includes controlling the crowd.

Did you note the Nationality of the Umpire? Did you note the way he was behaving from the start of the match?

Contrast his behaviour with the way Mohammed Lahyani acted with Nick at last years US Open. And the authorities had the audacity to suspend Lahyani as a result.

Rest assured, if it had been Federer, Nadal or Djokovic, the Umpire would have jumped onto the crowd quick smart.

Even Federer is wise enough to see the real situation and has defended Nick in this instance. I trust Roger here more than you or anyone else to call it exactly as it is.
 
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thrust

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Tennis_Hands said:
Actually, it does help winning tennis matches. In fact, I will go out on a limb and say that it was instrumental in beating all of the big 3.

:cool:
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How many tournaments has he ever won? Anything above a 250? The problem with Nick is that he is very talented, physically but mentally unstable, at least on the tennis court.
 
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Tennis_Hands

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thrust said:
How many tournaments has he ever won? Anything above a 250? The problem with Nick is that he is very talented, physically but mentally unstable, at least on the tennis court.
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Well, I said that his personality helped him win against the big 3. Whatever the roots of his rebellious/bratty nature it gives him a certain negligent attitude towards their greatness, or rather refusal to be "in their shadow", which definitely helps him compete with them well in crucial moments, unlike the players that are singing their praises but cannot accept it in their mind that they can beat them, even if they have cornered someone from the big 3.

Obviously that doesn't work with much lesser players, as they don't represent the authority the way the big 3 do, so St. Nick is often unmotivated, regardless of the stakes.

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Karma Tennis

Karma Tennis

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thrust said:
How many tournaments has he ever won?
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A lot more than you have.

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Anything above a 250?
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Same as you have. But at least he has competed in more of them than you have.

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The problem with Nick is that he is very talented, physically but mentally unstable
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Nick's PROBLEM is the same problem that is faced by most modern Australian tennis players.

THEY ARE SPOILT from a very young age. They get all the support from Tennis Australia and think it is one great big party. They don't need tennis to escape a "terrible life". The ones that were born in Australia have all had pretty decent childhoods in Australia.

All this makes it very tough for them to leave (what many think is) the best country on the planet and perform at the highest level week in week out. They go out of their comfort zones. But they can't focus for extended periods of time because they never developed that skill as juniors ... especially if they were winning all the time because the competition was weak and they were constantly told how good they were.

Also in Nick's case, and Thanasi's as well ... they played themselves into the ground as Juniors ... especially on Hard Courts. The wrecked their bodies long before they reached 19 years of age.

Nick is always playing injured ... always. He probably hasn't played "pain free" for at least 7 years. That is excuse for his behaviour but it certainly explains it.

Nick loves Basketball. He does not like Tennis. He was elite at both sports as a junior. But he was forced to make a choice. His parents "encouraged" him to choose tennis because of the funding on offer to them. He took that path. Perhaps he should have resisted his parents and gone the other way. But what is done is done.

Anyway, what is the problem? If you don't like his antics or his behaviour ... like he says ... don't watch him play tennis, don't comment on him.

Easy enough to do.
 
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SystemicAnomaly

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Karma Tennis said:
When did we start talking about Serena?

Nothing in your post changes what I said. It is the Umpire's job to protect the player and that includes controlling the crowd.

Did you note the Nationality of the Umpire? Did you note the way he was behaving from the start of the match?

Contrast his behaviour with the way Mohammed Lahyani acted with Nick at last years US Open. And the authorities had the audacity to suspend Lahyani as a result.

Rest assured, if it had been Federer, Nadal or Djokovic, the Umpire would have jumped onto the crowd quick smart.

Even Federer is wise enough to see the real situation and has defended Nick in this instance. I trust Roger here more than you or anyone else to call it exactly as it is.
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Deflection and rationalization.

Not a fan of Serena's negative behavior either. But it pales in comparison to the frequent & ongoing boorish and disrespectful antics we've seen from Nick. Actions of umpires or spectators are no excuse for his extreme actions. (Perhaps you want to put the blame on his mum as well).
 
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OhYes

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Karma Tennis said:
He grew up in Canberra, Australia.

Anyone who knows Canberra, knows that the word "like" is very popular and heavily used there.
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I know that every region in the world has their special short phrases ppl use very often in a sentence or with expressing themselves. But I also know that it is usually derived from street talk common in not so educated male population. Sometimes it can be caused by aversion to camera, situation, person who is listening, but in this case 99% lack of education and wanna be thug posture.
 
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