MikeHitsHard93
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Just added 8 grams of lead at 3&9 and 4 grams at 12 on my pro open! Swings fairly solid now instead of whippy...should be interesting!
Just added 8 grams of lead at 3&9 and 4 grams at 12 on my pro open! Swings fairly solid now instead of whippy...should be interesting!
The fact is that most ATP Pros, instructors, and college students modify. If they don't, then they should. With the immense amount of variety in tennis, no two players are the same. Adding lead tape can make huge differences to your game that you can feel. I will admit that if someone can tell a difference with 1 gram in the handle then they should seek psychiatric help. However, 3 grams at 12 would be something that most players should feel.
I do understand where you are coming from. There are a lot of 3.0 hacks claiming to be able to tell weight differences; when in reality they can't even tell a string difference between RPM Blast fresh and RPM Blast after 10 months!
I'm a 5.5 NTRP and full-time tennis instructor/pro shop owner. I'm no pretender, this is my career. As for copying the pros, its not a bad idea...Typically professional tennis players choose what is the easiest. The simplest organism will survive. Tennis shoes, apparel, racquets, strings, even technique. Pros choose what performs the best. Its not all a money making scheme.
Tell you what, you wanna rock blue jeans and running shoes then go for it. Stick with punching the ball across the middle. WWFH is witchcraft that only the pros can do!
I can pretty much say 99% of Australia does not use any form of customising. I have to order my stuff from the states.
Hi movdqa -TW has length up to 29 inches there. Is there a 29 inch racquet, 95 sq in out there for me in the stock universe?
The Pros do it, so I must too! LOL! Everyone is such a pretender, it's hilarious.
The only 29 incher is the Big Bubba, headsize 137 sq in. That's just a bit big for me. They have the POG Longbody listed but not in stock.
There are hairpin sets for sale at Stringforums and the seller(s) will build to spec so I could get a set of frames that way but I'm actually pretty happy with my Prestige XLs. I think that the XLs out there are Radical variants though I wouldn't be surprised to see Prestige variants too.
Huge difference between changing racquets for the fun of trying new things and adding lead (single grams at a time) to suit your INCREDIBLY DELICATE and FINE TUNED tennis game that would be LOST without the PEERRRRFFFEECCCTTT SPEC! THE PERFECT SPEC! MUST GET IT PERFECT! roflroflrofl...
Well... I'd be happy play with a stock frame. There is just one big fat problemo. Nobody makes frames that are 12 or more points headlight, sw 310-340, head size 97-102, with an open string pattern. But with some silicone, lead, and leather, I can get there pretty easily. Problem solved. No biggie.
I really don't understand all this tribalism stuff regarding stock vs custom. If you are lucky enough to find a racquet you like that is stock, well that's awesome for you. If I want to tweak my frames a bit, and that irritates Lilguy1456, I guess he will just have to deal.
The Pros do it, so I must too! LOL! Everyone is such a pretender, it's hilarious.
In addition to providing much valuable information in other posts (thank you) - Jack, you are a voice of sanity here .
I just happened to be looking at another thread and found another post from Lilguy1456.
"Rofl at this. Nicely done. I usually don't even give sticks that much time. I have a bad habit of buying, hitting once or twice, then ONTO THE FORUMS it goes. I guess it has to be 'love at first forehand' for me!"
As I mentioned earlier, I'm very picky about my specs and I used my customized frames for twelve years. I appears that for someone who can play with any number of frames, your racquet buying history seems to tell a different story. Maybe a little customization and you won't be constantly changing frames .
is putting caps on a racquet considered customized?
Sorry I offended so many very sensitive people. It was my fault, and i'll never do it again...
No, I don't believe that's the problem.
You just need to get some on-court experience to better appreciate the value of both good-fitting shoes and a good-fitting racquet.
For mid- and upper-level players the racquet is a precision tool used at high speeds, often when nervous or "tight". The better it fits one's physique, biomechanics, and play style the more one can focus on the game and less on fighting the tool.
Because squeezing size 10 feet into size 8 shoes is nearly impossible while you could conceivably whack a ball over the net with a frying pan less knowledgeable players don't appreciate a well fit racquet. Getting that fit perfect can also be time consuming and includes lots of variables: static weight, swing weight, head size, string pattern, flex, grip size, grip type, string type, string tension, etc. In other words, more factors than when choosing a shoe.
I often thought it would be neat to build a "decision tree" of frames for new players demoing. Frames would be organized into a taxonomy of branching families.
I'd probably start with:
- High SW, High Weight
- High SW, Low Weight
- Low SW, High Weight
- Low SW, Low Weight
These four representative frames would be of mid-size and mid-flex and the first cut would determine arm and shoulder comfort relative to skill level and swing path.
Once you figure out a general SW and static weight you'd move up the tree to head size and string pattern: Small/Dense, Small/Open, Large/Dense, and Large/Open.
From there it's details of flex and balance.
We serendipitously took this approach last year with our sons and the results really made sense looking back on it. My older son clearly gravitated towards lower weight, higher SW frames with large heads (100") and open patterns. He hits full western with lots of topspin.
My younger son gravitated towards heavier, more evenly balanced control-oriented frames with smaller heads and tends to hit flat with great precision.
During the demo process we could clearly see families of frames emerge in their demo likes and dislikes. It about six weeks and the systematic approach was well worth it.
Unfortunately, most frame marketing is build around "control vs power" which doesn't make sense. And retail sales processes usually consist of, "feel how light this one swings! Oooohhh!" The way the industry treats its customers it's its own worst enemy.
No, I don't believe that's the problem.
You just need to get some on-court experience to better appreciate the value of both good-fitting shoes and a good-fitting racquet.
For mid- and upper-level players the racquet is a precision tool used at high speeds, often when nervous or "tight". The better it fits one's physique, biomechanics, and play style the more one can focus on the game and less on fighting the tool.
Because squeezing size 10 feet into size 8 shoes is nearly impossible while you could conceivably whack a ball over the net with a frying pan less knowledgeable players don't appreciate a well fit racquet. Getting that fit perfect can also be time consuming and includes lots of variables: static weight, swing weight, head size, string pattern, flex, grip size, grip type, string type, string tension, etc. In other words, more factors than when choosing a shoe.
I often thought it would be neat to build a "decision tree" of frames for new players demoing. Frames would be organized into a taxonomy of branching families.
I'd probably start with:
- High SW, High Weight
- High SW, Low Weight
- Low SW, High Weight
- Low SW, Low Weight
These four representative frames would be of mid-size and mid-flex and the first cut would determine arm and shoulder comfort relative to skill level and swing path.
Once you figure out a general SW and static weight you'd move up the tree to head size and string pattern: Small/Dense, Small/Open, Large/Dense, and Large/Open.
From there it's details of flex and balance.
We serendipitously took this approach last year with our sons and the results really made sense looking back on it. My older son clearly gravitated towards lower weight, higher SW frames with large heads (100") and open patterns. He hits full western with lots of topspin.
My younger son gravitated towards heavier, more evenly balanced control-oriented frames with smaller heads and tends to hit flat with great precision.
During the demo process we could clearly see families of frames emerge in their demo likes and dislikes. It about six weeks and the systematic approach was well worth it.
Unfortunately, most frame marketing is build around "control vs power" which doesn't make sense. And retail sales processes usually consist of, "feel how light this one swings! Oooohhh!" The way the industry treats its customers it's its own worst enemy.
No, I don't believe that's the problem.
You just need to get some on-court experience to better appreciate the value of both good-fitting shoes and a good-fitting racquet.
For mid- and upper-level players the racquet is a precision tool used at high speeds, often when nervous or "tight". The better it fits one's physique, biomechanics, and play style the more one can focus on the game and less on fighting the tool.
Because squeezing size 10 feet into size 8 shoes is nearly impossible while you could conceivably whack a ball over the net with a frying pan less knowledgeable players don't appreciate a well fit racquet. Getting that fit perfect can also be time consuming and includes lots of variables: static weight, swing weight, head size, string pattern, flex, grip size, grip type, string type, string tension, etc. In other words, more factors than when choosing a shoe.
I often thought it would be neat to build a "decision tree" of frames for new players demoing. Frames would be organized into a taxonomy of branching families.
I'd probably start with:
- High SW, High Weight
- High SW, Low Weight
- Low SW, High Weight
- Low SW, Low Weight
These four representative frames would be of mid-size and mid-flex and the first cut would determine arm and shoulder comfort relative to skill level and swing path.
Once you figure out a general SW and static weight you'd move up the tree to head size and string pattern: Small/Dense, Small/Open, Large/Dense, and Large/Open.
From there it's details of flex and balance.
We serendipitously took this approach last year with our sons and the results really made sense looking back on it. My older son clearly gravitated towards lower weight, higher SW frames with large heads (100") and open patterns. He hits full western with lots of topspin.
My younger son gravitated towards heavier, more evenly balanced control-oriented frames with smaller heads and tends to hit flat with great precision.
During the demo process we could clearly see families of frames emerge in their demo likes and dislikes. It about six weeks and the systematic approach was well worth it.
Unfortunately, most frame marketing is build around "control vs power" which doesn't make sense. And retail sales processes usually consist of, "feel how light this one swings! Oooohhh!" The way the industry treats its customers it's its own worst enemy.
Question about customization: if I add 4 g of lead at 11:00 and 1:00, how many grams of weight should I add to the handle to return the racquet to its original balance? 4, 6 or 8 grams?
thanks
Where abouts in Australia are you?? There are a couple of places in Sydney that have this service, both guys that I know are doing and have done customisation for current ATP & WTA players. PM me if you want details
OP still around? One thing I remember about the Yonex RDX500 90 is that the stock grip it came with was awful. God-awful. I don't know how you play with that thing because the first thing I did was replace that grip with something 6 millions times better.
Huge difference between changing racquets for the fun of trying new things and adding lead (single grams at a time) to suit your INCREDIBLY DELICATE and FINE TUNED tennis game that would be LOST without the PEERRRRFFFEECCCTTT SPEC! THE PERFECT SPEC! MUST GET IT PERFECT! roflroflrofl...
Nothing wrong with customizing though, I enjoy a racquet w/ a rhinoceros calf leather handle strung with manatee gut @ 65 lbs just as much as the next man. :twisted:
I prefer to dip my strings in giant squid ink to promote spin/disguise and real Vermont maple syrup on the grip to improve tack... any advice on how to keep the ants from finding my racket bag?
I grew up with wood rackets and then played with Kennex Black Aces that weighed close to 14 oz stock for years. That's what I'm used to and that's what my strokes are grooved to.
No one makes 14oz rackets. Only way to get a racket I like is to customize it.
(I do have two Black Aces which are stock, though.)