Courts have opened again! So I took the racket strung with Big Spin 11 weeks ago and as before I liked it from the first stroke. I played really great with it and was surprised how well even flat backhand longline strokes worked with this spin orientated string. I am normally a defensive player (cf. username), but with Big Spin I tried more often to dominate the rallies!
Mayami strings
- Thread starter Lozannois
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Grieeegoorr
Semi-Pro
So that was the one that had 6 hours on it already?
Did you string it up in a fullbed?
What racquet and tension?
Cheers
Yes, it broke yesterday after 10h (normal durability for polyester strings). I had it strung in a fullbed at 51/49 lbs in a Babolat Pure Aero 2016. You can see my review on stringforum.net (they translated it from saitenforum.de), username Silverspoon.
Grieeegoorr
Semi-Pro
Will you use it again?
Grieeegoorr
Semi-Pro
I have just picked up an iPrestige MP and am thinking on stringing up a hybrid with Big Spin in the mains and Hit Pro in the crosses. Have you tried any other Mayami strings?
I actually have Tour Hex on my second racquet. I'll report soon.
LocNetMonster
Professional
You should try what I call the "Big Twist" instead and if you have the strings. Put Mayami Big Spin in the mains and Mayami Magic Twist in the crosses. Out of instinct, I did this with the first set of Mayami strings I got in their demo pack So much spin and from baseline to the net really, really dependable control. I can't comment on comfort 'cuz I swinging 13.5 oz sticks so I don't feel any negative feedback. Bought two reels of each, I love it so much.
LocNetMonster
Professional
Looking forward to hearing your take. Tour Hex is a nice string. Surprising amount of spin in my Radical MP. I think it is one of the few shaped strings I like as a full bed. Very dependable IMHO once you adjust to its play characteristics. It will tear the fuzz of a ball though
Also, tried it with Big Spin mains. Not as powerful as "Big Twist" hybrid I mentioned above in my MPs, it has a different personality in my Bab Pure Control sticks. Much lower launch angle in both, but still delivers a healthy amount of top spin.
I still have a set of Hit Pro from the original demo pack they sent. I need to try it, but I'm just too infatuated with Big Twist and I went ahead and bought a couple of reels of Tour Hex to string up for clients.
I have played 8 hours now with Tour Hex. Having played with Big Spin and T1 Firewire before trying Tour Hex, I needed some time to adjust to its characteristics. Big Spin and Firewire are triangular strings which create a special kind of spin called "kamikaze spin" by Locnetmonster. When you swing fast and with a lot of spin, the balls seems to sail out, but dives down at the end of the flight trajectory and stays in. With Tour Hex, this isn't the case, the balls sails out. But this is just different, not negative, because I could easily get a good length with Tour Hex, once I had adjusted to this phenomenon (which is quite normal, the kamikaze spin created by Big Spin and FW is the abnormal phenomenon).
I could play every stroke without problems and the string provided a nice, soft feedback and even a lot of power when I hit the ball in the sweet spot. So I think that Tour Hex is a solid and dependable string! It has no outstanding characteristic, but is a very good all-round string. IMHO, a lot of players may like it.
I could play every stroke without problems and the string provided a nice, soft feedback and even a lot of power when I hit the ball in the sweet spot. So I think that Tour Hex is a solid and dependable string! It has no outstanding characteristic, but is a very good all-round string. IMHO, a lot of players may like it.
LocNetMonster
Professional
@Spoon If you like Big Spin, you have to try Big Twist (Big Spin mains, Magic Twist crosses).
FWIW, IMHO, Tour Hex is better suited for wider pattern string beds. In my 97sqin 16x19 frame, it is last a long time and as @Spoon notes, "It has no outstanding characteristic, but is a very good all-round string." However, in a 105 16x19, I get more rpm. When I get to the ball in time and brush it real good, the ball may not dive into the court like with a Big Twist hybrid or full bed Big Spin, but I do see lively bounce of the court. In the right stick given the price point on a reel, the overall performance against a round string, and durability, it a nice doubles string for gals and guys with hands. Currently have a stick with Tour Hex mains and Ghost Wire crosses in a Brave for doubles. It is a soft and slice friendly setup.
FWIW, IMHO, Tour Hex is better suited for wider pattern string beds. In my 97sqin 16x19 frame, it is last a long time and as @Spoon notes, "It has no outstanding characteristic, but is a very good all-round string." However, in a 105 16x19, I get more rpm. When I get to the ball in time and brush it real good, the ball may not dive into the court like with a Big Twist hybrid or full bed Big Spin, but I do see lively bounce of the court. In the right stick given the price point on a reel, the overall performance against a round string, and durability, it a nice doubles string for gals and guys with hands. Currently have a stick with Tour Hex mains and Ghost Wire crosses in a Brave for doubles. It is a soft and slice friendly setup.
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
Can't find another place to put it so I'll do it in this thread.
I got a reel of Big Spin some time ago and strung it up for several different players to test. All of them liked the string but decided to stick with what they were already using, or didn't like the amount of change in response as the sharp tip wore to a rounded shape. Only one player, a really, really hard hitting guy in his mid-20's, has decided to keep using it, and in this case it was because he uses a weighted Pure Drive Tour Plus and liked the softer response. However, now for the third time in three weeks, there's been a break right in the middle of the stringbed, where the Big Spin looks like it has sheared longitudinally. This guy can really thump the ball and each break has happened on either a first serve or putaway groundstroke.
You can see from the minor wear on the tips that this is a pretty fresh stringjob. The lack of pullback is most likely due to the twist shape locking the strings more or less in place.
Anyhow, this was kind of the last straw for using this string and he's gone back to Solstice Power.
Anyone else experience anything like this?
I got a reel of Big Spin some time ago and strung it up for several different players to test. All of them liked the string but decided to stick with what they were already using, or didn't like the amount of change in response as the sharp tip wore to a rounded shape. Only one player, a really, really hard hitting guy in his mid-20's, has decided to keep using it, and in this case it was because he uses a weighted Pure Drive Tour Plus and liked the softer response. However, now for the third time in three weeks, there's been a break right in the middle of the stringbed, where the Big Spin looks like it has sheared longitudinally. This guy can really thump the ball and each break has happened on either a first serve or putaway groundstroke.
You can see from the minor wear on the tips that this is a pretty fresh stringjob. The lack of pullback is most likely due to the twist shape locking the strings more or less in place.
Anyhow, this was kind of the last straw for using this string and he's gone back to Solstice Power.
Anyone else experience anything like this?
LocNetMonster
Professional
1. What tension did you string the mains at?
2. How many hour did it take him to do that?
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
This was done at 52/50. He started with Big Spin just prior to the pandemic and so his hitting from March through June was limited and low intensity. Now he is back to hard training and the string just doesn't seem to hold up to his level of hitting. This picture here is at the start of his second session, so about 90 minutes of play. None of the last three sets have lasted more than two hours.
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
Is this a triangle shaped string? Happens quite a bit with triangle shaped strings to me, especially with sharp edges.
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
Yeah, it's a fairly sharp, twisted triangular shape. I think what happens is that the string gets nicked on top of the sharp edge and the bottom of the nick is a stress point that allows the string to basically tear from there, eventually shearing apart along its length during heavy-hitting.
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
Exactly.
LocNetMonster
Professional
Interesting. I have been using and stringing Big Spin for other since last November, and have yet to see anything like that. From the notching on the other strings, your dude is a definitely a ball smacker. It looks like crosses are slicing the mains. If he likes the spin, you could have him try a round cross. I think that would eliminate the shearing.
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
From what I could tell by looking at it closer, the very tip of that thin sheared section looks like it's started on the tip of a triangular face that was at the top of the string bed, and not on the underside where it would press against a cross. Every string intersection has the flat faces against each other - the strings rotate into that position automatically as tension is pulled.
So with the triangular tip facing outward where it is pushed upward by the string intersection below it, the point is under additional stress by being stretched by the bend along with the string tension itself. So whether the ball picks up something and nicks the string, or it gets nicked in his racquet bag, or it just tears from the combination of string tension, bending stress, and impact stress, it looks like that damage starts a longitudinal separation in the string.
I hit pretty hard but not as hard as this player, and no one else has experienced this problem in about a dozen times I've strung Big Spin.
LocNetMonster
Professional
It looks like at several intersections the apex of the cross string is resting on main instead of one of the three bases.
I would say the initial nicks are cause by impact from the apexes striking opposing string during snap back. Once the
notch is deep enough, this would make it easier for the strings to eventually start to "shave" the string as they slide in
or out of place on the preceding ball strikes.
When I string it, my goal is have strings in the center of the racquet be base-on-base, which is easier to do with Big Spin's
natural twist than with another triangle shaped string, Fire Wire. Having all the apex up at all the string intersections delivers
incredible ball bite and why I enjoy playing with this string so much.
I would say the initial nicks are cause by impact from the apexes striking opposing string during snap back. Once the
notch is deep enough, this would make it easier for the strings to eventually start to "shave" the string as they slide in
or out of place on the preceding ball strikes.
When I string it, my goal is have strings in the center of the racquet be base-on-base, which is easier to do with Big Spin's
natural twist than with another triangle shaped string, Fire Wire. Having all the apex up at all the string intersections delivers
incredible ball bite and why I enjoy playing with this string so much.
Some news about Mayami Big Spin: In the last weeks, I tried the following combos (always strung at 51/49 lbs. in a Babolat Pure Aero 2016):
1. Big Spin mains + Signum Pro X-Perience 17L crosses:
A good combination, although it felt a bit stiffer than full bed Big Spin and full bed X-Perience. But it already broke after 4.5 hours! Three mains snapped at the same time, and all mains were deeply notched. I didn’t expect this, because the edges of X-Perience aren’t very sharp.
2. Big Spin mains + Prince Tour XT crosses:
Very soft feeling, but too much power and not enough control. So, in this combination the XT crosses should be strung at higher tension.
Finally, I came back to full bed Big Spin, and again I really loved it!
I’ll try Big Spin + Magic Twist soon.
1. Big Spin mains + Signum Pro X-Perience 17L crosses:
A good combination, although it felt a bit stiffer than full bed Big Spin and full bed X-Perience. But it already broke after 4.5 hours! Three mains snapped at the same time, and all mains were deeply notched. I didn’t expect this, because the edges of X-Perience aren’t very sharp.
2. Big Spin mains + Prince Tour XT crosses:
Very soft feeling, but too much power and not enough control. So, in this combination the XT crosses should be strung at higher tension.
Finally, I came back to full bed Big Spin, and again I really loved it!
I’ll try Big Spin + Magic Twist soon.
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
I've run through about 15 sets of Big Spin and while it's a softer poly with really good grip on the ball, it has shear breakage problems worse than Silver 7 Tour. Only difference is that Big Spin breaks in the middle of the stringbed on a sweetspot contact whereas Silver 7 Tour tends to break at the grommet on a mis-hit.
This guy also thumps the ball and this apparently happened on a two handed backhand passing shot attempt.
This guy also thumps the ball and this apparently happened on a two handed backhand passing shot attempt.
jangotango
Semi-Pro
I just saw Mayami Official was banned back in March... Tough.
LocNetMonster
Professional
Saw that, too. Wonder why? Great string. I've got another order on the way.
LocNetMonster
Professional
I've run through about 15 sets of Big Spin and while it's a softer poly with really good grip on the ball, it has shear breakage problems worse than Silver 7 Tour. Only difference is that Big Spin breaks in the middle of the stringbed on a sweetspot contact whereas Silver 7 Tour tends to break at the grommet on a mis-hit.
This guy also thumps the ball and this apparently happened on a two handed backhand passing shot attempt.
No doubt, you guys a ball basher. If you have any left, have him try Big Spin mains and whatever slick 16g poly cross you have. I doubt you'll lose anything in the way of spin and I think your shear problem will go away.
LocNetMonster
Professional
Got a couple of sets of a not yet released (probably March I'm told) multifilament from Mayami Strings to demo called 'Perfection' with two reels I ordered several weeks ago. It is kinda cool 'cuz t coloring and transparency is identical to the Klip gut I have in one stick right now. There is an interesting visible spiral strand wrapped through it I gotta ask about. Now for the hard part; deciding which racquet to try it in.
What do you think, should I do a full bed or hybrid string job (with a poly cross)?
What do you think, should I do a full bed or hybrid string job (with a poly cross)?
Try hybrid and full bed. It will be interesting how it will play...Got a couple of sets of a not yet released (probably March I'm told) multifilament from Mayami Strings to demo called 'Perfection' with two reels I ordered several weeks ago. It is kinda cool 'cuz t coloring and transparency is identical to the Klip gut I have in one stick right now. There is an interesting visible spiral strand wrapped through it I gotta ask about. Now for the hard part; deciding which racquet to try it in.
What do you think, should I do a full bed or hybrid string job (with a poly cross)?
LocNetMonster
Professional
Played an hour and half yesterday and hour today with the demo Multifilament (aka Perfection) in the mains at 57# and Magic Twist crosses at 51#. It was in the upper 40s and I was hitting outdoors. Despite feeling soft on contact, the string bed is pretty lively. It doesn't have a slick coating like other well-known multis. Here's is my first impression with the initial set up after two and half hours:
Power: 9/10
I need to up the tension another 5 pounds on the next install as I tended to hit long consistently with a normal swing. Given the way it felt as I uncoiled it to string, I thought I'd be dead on in terms of tension. I think new users will definitely find it has more power than Head MLT and Prince Premier. I need to hit with NXT again to compare. What is for sure is it is really easy to generate pace without even trying.
Spin: 7/10
Spin was average for this type of string.
Comfort: 9/10
It's a comfortable string play with. It will be interesting to see if it maintains the comfort level at a little higher tension. I think folks with a history of arm/wrist issues will appreciate this string. The last hour I hit yesterday I alternated between this set up, one with natural gut mains and Magic Twist crosses and a stick with Forten nylon. Definitely more discomfort from the Forten set up. Really wasn't a noticeable difference between the NattyGut and Mayami multi mains.
Control: 7/10
I hadn't been able to play for a week so it could be a timing issue, but control seemed pretty typical for a multi. I'd say when it comes to control it is pretty predictable like playing with NXT, MicroFiberX or MLT.
Feel: 8/10
Felt really connected at the net with volleys and with touch shots. Normal grounds strokes were kind of weird. With solid contact it didn't feel like I was hitting a tennis ball most of the time.
Durability: TBD
After 2.5 hours of match play there is a little notching, but no fraying yet in a 16x19, 105si frame.
Power: 9/10
I need to up the tension another 5 pounds on the next install as I tended to hit long consistently with a normal swing. Given the way it felt as I uncoiled it to string, I thought I'd be dead on in terms of tension. I think new users will definitely find it has more power than Head MLT and Prince Premier. I need to hit with NXT again to compare. What is for sure is it is really easy to generate pace without even trying.
Spin: 7/10
Spin was average for this type of string.
Comfort: 9/10
It's a comfortable string play with. It will be interesting to see if it maintains the comfort level at a little higher tension. I think folks with a history of arm/wrist issues will appreciate this string. The last hour I hit yesterday I alternated between this set up, one with natural gut mains and Magic Twist crosses and a stick with Forten nylon. Definitely more discomfort from the Forten set up. Really wasn't a noticeable difference between the NattyGut and Mayami multi mains.
Control: 7/10
I hadn't been able to play for a week so it could be a timing issue, but control seemed pretty typical for a multi. I'd say when it comes to control it is pretty predictable like playing with NXT, MicroFiberX or MLT.
Feel: 8/10
Felt really connected at the net with volleys and with touch shots. Normal grounds strokes were kind of weird. With solid contact it didn't feel like I was hitting a tennis ball most of the time.
Durability: TBD
After 2.5 hours of match play there is a little notching, but no fraying yet in a 16x19, 105si frame.
topspn
Legend
I see, you have to choose all strings first then it will show individual set packs. Thanks!
LocNetMonster
Professional
Hit for another 2.5 hours yesterday with the Perfection/Magic Twist combo. Honestly like this hybrid ... a lot ... after I got in sync with the string bed. My arm feels great, like I never hit at all on Sunday. My control was much, much better so I don't know if I should mark it up a point, but the only really change to my initial review concerns durability. Having played five hours with this installation, there are four or five strings that are notched about half way through. It will be interesting to see if I can make it 10 hours. For the performance, comfort and price, I think this will be a good buy next year.
I never play with a full bed of poly of the same string so I'll take suggestions for a cross string for my next installation of Perfection. In the mean time, after this breaks, I'll try out the set of sGut they sent. What string do you think I should try as a cross string next?
I never play with a full bed of poly of the same string so I'll take suggestions for a cross string for my next installation of Perfection. In the mean time, after this breaks, I'll try out the set of sGut they sent. What string do you think I should try as a cross string next?
taydbear7
Professional
I really like Big Spin. Great ball pocket. Mayami is really underrated.
I tried two more combos with Mayami Big Spin mains:
- "Big Alpha": Big Spin mains + Grapplesnake Alpha crosses (51/51 lbs.)
- "Big Twist": Big Spin mains + Mayami Magic Twist crosses (51/48 lbs.)
Both combos worked really well!!
Big Alpha is softer and offers more power (even strung + 3 lbs.). It feels a bit lighter and faster. Angle shots were easy and effective.
Big Twist offers even more control and feels solid like the Chinese wall! Defending against big hitters is a delight with this combo.
So, it’s hard to say which one I like more. Big Alpha might be better in cold conditions (more power and feel), Big Twist will give you a bit more control and confidence in hot conditions and when you play against opponents who hit really hard.
However, one thing is sure: I’ll use Big Spin in mains during the next season!
- "Big Alpha": Big Spin mains + Grapplesnake Alpha crosses (51/51 lbs.)
- "Big Twist": Big Spin mains + Mayami Magic Twist crosses (51/48 lbs.)
Both combos worked really well!!
Big Alpha is softer and offers more power (even strung + 3 lbs.). It feels a bit lighter and faster. Angle shots were easy and effective.
Big Twist offers even more control and feels solid like the Chinese wall! Defending against big hitters is a delight with this combo.
So, it’s hard to say which one I like more. Big Alpha might be better in cold conditions (more power and feel), Big Twist will give you a bit more control and confidence in hot conditions and when you play against opponents who hit really hard.
However, one thing is sure: I’ll use Big Spin in mains during the next season!
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
I thought these were quite different strings. Tour Hex reminded me of Tour Bite, being firm and crisp, with average oto below average power but above average control. Big Spin is soft and fairly muted, with average power, good comfort, and good spin capability until the pointy edges wear smooth, which doesn't take long. It also suffers from shear breaks right in the sweetspot under heavy hitting.
Big Spin offers more free power, the launch angle is higher and the spin it creates could be described as "fly high and dive down" spin. Tour Hex is a control string with a lower launch angle, a more linear spin and better durability. Both are very good strings! I personally prefer Big Spin, but hardhitters searching for ultimate control should try Tour Hex.
LocNetMonster
Professional
Magic Twist seems to last longer. You might want to try the "Big Twist", which is Big Spin main with Magic Twist crosses. Nearly the same great spin minus the shearing
LocNetMonster
Professional
Final update on the Mayami Perfection demo. Light notches after the first two hours but last about 17 hours total, 2/3 of that heavy hitting. Honestly like this hybrid for all-court play. It played great right up until it popped today. I'd give it a 10/10 on durability as it seemed to maintain tension/playability after the initial drop. Can't wait for the official release.
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
Finally got to try Tour Hex thanks to @Injured Again in my clash 100. Had Lynx Tour in it previously. Initial impressions of the tour hex were that it was much stiffer/low powered than Lynx tour. After hitting with it for an hour or so it opened up. I’d say it has more control and spin than Lynx tour but I like the way Lynx tour pockets the ball better. Overall really good string from Mayami, but won’t replace my silver 7 tour as my main string.
LocNetMonster
Professional
Have you played with the natty gut yet? How was it?
