Mikeler's Multis

djNEiGht

Legend
I think that was the string I asked Mikeler about but he said he was living it up with Discho Microfibre.

I just started playing with power fibre and it is pretty nice.

I did a full bed at 57#s on a 16x19 90 inch Mizuno Turbo Pro. The drilling pattern makes the string bed fairly dense in the middle.

With this particular racquet I use OG Sheep and then Gamma Live Wire XP when I have a bit extra cash.

You really have to generate your own power AND let the weight of this racquet do it's work.

The strings had a nice feel and was comfortable. I think this would work well with those suffering fr GE/TE

I've only played x2 sets with this and so far the tension seems to hold up fairly well. It didn't seem to need to settle but then again I had it strung and sitting at home for over a week. It probably settled some during that time. I have heard that this string will look pretty beat up just like any other multi.

Lots of control and a decent amount of spin. The racquet (12.8 oz) leads me to hit a bit more flat than my mid+ and lighter sticks. I am eager to try this in one of my med+ racquets.

The one thing I didn't like was the sound upon contact. I had a dampener while playing yet it had more of a ping sound than a pop.
 

mikeler

Moderator
Had my first ever hit on a red European clay court today. If I played regularly here in the summer on the clay, I'd drop my tension to around 50# on DM. The red stuff is so much slower plus the temps are much cooler.
 

sansaephanh

Professional
hey mike, do you happen to have a video of your strokes? I've only popped a poly once so I'm thinking on pulling the trigger on some Hexy Fiber. Not sure if I should shoot for 16g or 17. Have you tried the 17 yet?

I have a feeling you haven't because you probably hit alot better then I do and have a necessity for 16g lol. A local 4.0-4.5 said I hit harder then a decent amount of 4.0s he's played with, but you know how that is... Having other people rate you is eh.

It probably was because I stuck to the baseline and my counter punching was doing good that day.

ANYWAYS, i'm hoping hexy fiber doesn't die as fast as synthetic gut. After that point I don't even touch the racket anymore. I hate that dead feeling.

PS: Do you think I could yield more spin/feel with a decent slippery cross? Maybe like some isospeed poly or something.
 

mixedmedia

Professional
And I'm finally caught up on this thread! Nice to be back on the boards semi-consistently again.

I noticed some recent discussion of gut, and personally I'd warn against Pacific. I had some durability issues with it, even with the 16 G. I'd say, for a slightly less powerful, but still great gut, mikeler, that Mamba Supra Gut is definitely worth a go. Using Babolat string savers, it is lasting forever and playing great. And, in agreement with your earlier comments, I too feel that gut doesn't give one as much breakage warning as some claim. Best to be safe than sorry with the string savers; they really prevent the proliferation of fraying.
 

filphil

Rookie
Mamba is too inconsistent to waste my time on it(don't string for myself). Half of the set on two separate occasion brokes on me while being strung with new grommets.

I'll be able to comment on the durability of pacific in hopefully a few weeks.
 

mixedmedia

Professional
Which Mamba did you use--the Supra or the Premium? The latter I wouldn't waste my time on. Maybe I just got a good batch of Supra; the next shipment will tell. (I do have original VS though and Wilson, but I may save those for customers, at least the Wilson, which is now the best gut made.)
 

mikeler

Moderator
And I'm finally caught up on this thread! Nice to be back on the boards semi-consistently again.

I noticed some recent discussion of gut, and personally I'd warn against Pacific. I had some durability issues with it, even with the 16 G. I'd say, for a slightly less powerful, but still great gut, mikeler, that Mamba Supra Gut is definitely worth a go. Using Babolat string savers, it is lasting forever and playing great. And, in agreement with your earlier comments, I too feel that gut doesn't give one as much breakage warning as some claim. Best to be safe than sorry with the string savers; they really prevent the proliferation of fraying.


Thanks for the info. I got your e-mail about trying out Gamma Pro. Maybe we can work something out later. For whatever reason, I've not been in the string experimentation mood for some time now.
 

mikeler

Moderator
hey mike, do you happen to have a video of your strokes? I've only popped a poly once so I'm thinking on pulling the trigger on some Hexy Fiber. Not sure if I should shoot for 16g or 17. Have you tried the 17 yet?

I have a feeling you haven't because you probably hit alot better then I do and have a necessity for 16g lol. A local 4.0-4.5 said I hit harder then a decent amount of 4.0s he's played with, but you know how that is... Having other people rate you is eh.

It probably was because I stuck to the baseline and my counter punching was doing good that day.

ANYWAYS, i'm hoping hexy fiber doesn't die as fast as synthetic gut. After that point I don't even touch the racket anymore. I hate that dead feeling.

PS: Do you think I could yield more spin/feel with a decent slippery cross? Maybe like some isospeed poly or something.


I have videos of me serving but most of them are when my form was out of whack. One of these days I'd like to video my forehand and backhand but it is by no means a priority at this point. Perhaps someday I'll post something.

I've only tried 17g Hexy Fibre as a cross string. In general, 17g multis just don't meet my durability needs. I've never tried Isospeed poly so I can't help you there. Happy string testing.
 

filphil

Rookie
Which Mamba did you use--the Supra or the Premium? The latter I wouldn't waste my time on. Maybe I just got a good batch of Supra; the next shipment will tell. (I do have original VS though and Wilson, but I may save those for customers, at least the Wilson, which is now the best gut made.)

I used supra in 17g. It actually felt slightly larger than 17g akin to a 16. At the moment the only HALF set of classic I ordered got through the stringing process. Since I don't string for myself the extra 8 or so dollars for a full set is worth it to me. I can't say I don't see the advantage of the supra for a home stringer though. When I mentioned to Ray that I had issues with his gut the refund was a no questions asked type of deal.
 

sansaephanh

Professional
I have videos of me serving but most of them are when my form was out of whack. One of these days I'd like to video my forehand and backhand but it is by no means a priority at this point. Perhaps someday I'll post something.

I've only tried 17g Hexy Fibre as a cross string. In general, 17g multis just don't meet my durability needs. I've never tried Isospeed poly so I can't help you there. Happy string testing.

Dammit. I just destroyed a set of Cyberflash blue today. Really decent spin. Finally got my slice serve to start working the way i want it. But at the back of my mind I kept thinking about how much more swing it could have with a textured poly...

Technique over equipment really hit me today. As everything clicked and spin was as plentiful as I wanted it to be. I just gotta get my darn tennis fitness back. I'll probably stick to bhbr though... It gives me all sorts of confidence even though it lacks the touch i love from synthetic guts. The goods just happen to outweigh the bad.
 

fortun8son

Hall of Fame
I finally got to string up my other set of Pro's Pro Gutex Ultra 1.25 on a k Six-One Team for a young man who is not a stringbreaker.
What a dream to work with, even smells like MCS and HiTech.
I'm sure he'll like it better than the Sensation16 that TW gave him.
I will definitely buy a reel of the stuff when I run out of Dunlop Comfort Synthetic 17!
 
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mikeler

Moderator
I finally got to string up my other set of Pro's Pro Gutex Ultra 1.25 on a k Six-One Team for a young man who is not a stringbreaker.
What a dream to work with, even smells like MCS and HiTech.
I'm sure he'll like it better than the Sensation16 that TW gave him.
I will definitely buy a reel of the stuff when I run out of Dunlop Comfort Synthetic 17!


That Gutex Ultra was pretty good stuff in the 17g. Since I tend to like 16g multis, I might like the thicker gauge even better.
 

mixedmedia

Professional
I used supra in 17g. It actually felt slightly larger than 17g akin to a 16. At the moment the only HALF set of classic I ordered got through the stringing process. Since I don't string for myself the extra 8 or so dollars for a full set is worth it to me. I can't say I don't see the advantage of the supra for a home stringer though. When I mentioned to Ray that I had issues with his gut the refund was a no questions asked type of deal.

I see what you mean, but I haven't been able to find a mid-range gut that I like better and that lasts, esp. with Performaxx seemingly discontinued and Tonic ruined.
 

mikeler

Moderator
I've played quite well my last two outings with the Discho. My opponent today said I'd be stupid to keep switching strings.
 

mixedmedia

Professional
That's why I said various. :) Maybe one (not Wilson) would work better? That's really the only other options I see for you, as sad as it is to say.
 

mixedmedia

Professional
True... But with Supra it might be worth a go, if Supra can take the weight. :)

Btw, thanks to noticing the brand name in your reviews, I will be demoing some PKs soon!
 

mikeler

Moderator
True... But with Supra it might be worth a go, if Supra can take the weight. :)

Btw, thanks to noticing the brand name in your reviews, I will be demoing some PKs soon!


I'm a big fan of the PK 7G. Plays like a stiff racket with the comfort of a flexible stick. I'd still like to try the 5G one day to see if the standard length racket could cure my minor forearm troubles.
 

mixedmedia

Professional
I'm looking at the Ki 5 PSE, QTour, Redondo Mid, and Redondo MP. I would probably put lead at 3/9 on the latter three. Heard anything about those? (I've read a lot on the boards, but still have questions only demos can answer.)
 

mikeler

Moderator
I'm looking at the Ki 5 PSE, QTour, Redondo Mid, and Redondo MP. I would probably put lead at 3/9 on the latter three. Heard anything about those? (I've read a lot on the boards, but still have questions only demos can answer.)


Can't help you there. I switched from the original Babolat PSTs to the PK 7G because the specs were really close. I took a chance and bought a 7G without doing a demo. It was pretty obvious from the first hit that it was easier on my arm so I ordered 2 more and sold my PSTs.
 
Thanks Mike for helping with the B5E/thunder blast hybrid. I like it. it is soft, powerful and the control is exceptional. I will try 56/60 the next time cause my racket, the 2012 PDR, has too much power. I am now between this set up and the WC scorpion full bed at 54. Again, thank you!
 
a little of toppic here, and MAYBE mikeller will rip my head off but well..
i have now played with both mantis confort synthetic and the pros pro equivalent: high tec multifiber.

they are close, agreed, but not the same string.
the pros pro, altough a good string (excelent considering the price) have one thing i absolutely hate, which is a plastic feeling to them that the mantis does not have. Some would call it a firmmer feel, but its for me, a plasctic and stiffer feel, that say it is still very soft for a multi.

play both os them in the redondo mid, and the one with the pros pro has been giving me some shoulder pain... go figure, because the rest of the setup is the same... same racquet, same tension, and same cross string, sugnum pro poly plasma pure.

outside of the frame, they are absolutely the same, but believe me, they play diferent when strung

please dont kill me
 

mikeler

Moderator
so which one is ur personal favourite?

See post #1 of this thread for my favorite multis.


Thanks Mike for helping with the B5E/thunder blast hybrid. I like it. it is soft, powerful and the control is exceptional. I will try 56/60 the next time cause my racket, the 2012 PDR, has too much power. I am now between this set up and the WC scorpion full bed at 54. Again, thank you!

I went from 48/52 with this setup in the PSTs to 52/56 in the 7G.


a little of toppic here, and MAYBE mikeller will rip my head off but well..
i have now played with both mantis confort synthetic and the pros pro equivalent: high tec multifiber.

they are close, agreed, but not the same string.
the pros pro, altough a good string (excelent considering the price) have one thing i absolutely hate, which is a plastic feeling to them that the mantis does not have. Some would call it a firmmer feel, but its for me, a plasctic and stiffer feel, that say it is still very soft for a multi.

play both os them in the redondo mid, and the one with the pros pro has been giving me some shoulder pain... go figure, because the rest of the setup is the same... same racquet, same tension, and same cross string, sugnum pro poly plasma pure.

outside of the frame, they are absolutely the same, but believe me, they play diferent when strung

please dont kill me

You are dead to me. :). Let's agree to disagree.


if you want a crisp multi with power and good control, which would you buy ?

Thunder Blast.


Yes Virginia there is a PK 10G, in both 100"mp and 107"os. Believe it is the 1st PK Kinetic racquet from 1996. There are two racquets for sale in TW Vintage section which may be the very 1st Kinetic racquets.

Ah, vintage.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Need some help here, and since you got so many reviews maybe you are the guy to start with.

What in your opinion is the closest string to X-1 Biphase? Ive tried a few multis, but havent had much luck. Im just tired of dropping 17 bucks for a pack of strings if there is a similar equivalent for cheaper especially in a reel. TF cuts you no break on the reels.

Thanks
 

mikeler

Moderator
There is nothing quite like X1 Biphase. Phase 1 I'm blasting winners left and right but when phase 2 arrives my shots are hitting the back of the fence.
 
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