Most Dominant Years based on Number of Big Titles?

[drm025]

If we consider the big tournaments to be the Grand Slams, Masters(for men) and Premier Mandatory/Premier 5/Tier I(for women), and YECs, that gives you an equal number of big tournaments for both the men and women each year, 14. Looking back over the past 20 years or so, the highest number of big tournaments won by one player in a single year was 8. And this happened 3 times:

1. 2006 - Roger Federer (92-5) - 8 big titles, 3 other finals
Australian Open, Indian Wells, Miami, Wimbledon, Toronto, US Open, Madrid, ATP Finals
Runner-Up: Monte Carlo, Rome, French Open (losses to Nadal)

2. 2011 - Novak Djokovic (70-6) - 8 big titles, 1 other final
Australian Open, Indian Wells, Miami, Madrid, Rome, Wimbledon, Montreal, US Open
Runner-Up: Cincinnati (loss to Murray)

3. 2013 - Serena Williams (78-4) - 8 big titles, 2 other finals
Miami, Madrid, Rome, French Open, Toronto, US Open, Beijing, WTA Finals
Runner-Up: Doha, Cincinnati (losses to Azarenka)

This has not been accomplished by Nadal, Sampras, or Agassi. It's hard to compare to players before the 90s since tournaments were ranked pretty differently before then, though Graf did not accomplish this during the 90s.

I would have to give the edge to Federer as the best season (3 slams and ATP finals), followed by Djokovic (3 slams), then Serena (2 slams and WTA finals). Djokovic was the only one who won titles on all surfaces, though.

Do you think this is a good criterion to use when selecting the most dominant seasons since 1990?

 

[TheAnty-vic]

^Welcome new McEnroeisanartist to the forum!
Great debut thread, no?

 

[drm025]

^Welcome new McEnroeisanartist to the forum!
Great debut thread, no?

Not sure if this is sarcastic since I'm new here..... Care to elaborate?

 

[McEnroeisanartist]

^Welcome new McEnroeisanartist to the forum!
Great debut thread, no?

Lol, that is funny TheAnty-vic

 

[TheAnty-vic]

Lol, that is funny TheAnty-vic

How difficult is it, logging in and commenting from 2 different accounts at the same time? :twisted:

 

[drm025]

Wait, why am I being confused for being someone else? You can check my name, I've been posting over at the Tennis Frontier forum, but then I found this one which seems to have way more posters and greater variety of opinions. I posted this same thread over there, too.

 

[TMF]

Welcome to the forum drm025.

Oh, and ignore some of the bad apples in here who aren't nice to you.

Back to the topic, Fed 06 edged out Nole 2011. He had more impressive stats than Nole.

Serena also had a great year but women tennis is inferior to men so it's apples to oranges comparison. However, her 2013 is comparable to Henin 2007.

 

[drm025]

Welcome to the forum drm025.

Oh, and ignore some of the bad apples in here who aren't nice to you.

Back to the topic, Fed 06 edged out Nole 2011. He had more impressive stats than Nole.

Serena also had a great year but women tennis is inferior to men so it's apples to oranges comparison. However, her 2013 is comparable to Henin 2007.

Thanks, TMF.

I think Serena's 2013 was better, overall she had 15 more wins and 3 more big titles, Henin only won 5. Plus, Henin didn't even play the Australian Open.

 

[TMF]

How difficult is it, logging in and commenting from 2 different accounts at the same time? :twisted:

This is already a pro-Nadal forum and you should be grateful, so leave the other posters alone.

And I'm not saying this because it's Christmas. :twisted:

 

[chandu612]

If we consider the big tournaments to be the Grand Slams, Masters(for men) and Premier Mandatory/Premier 5/Tier I(for women), and YECs, that gives you an equal number of big tournaments for both the men and women each year, 14. Looking back over the past 20 years or so, the highest number of big tournaments won by one player in a single year was 8. And this happened 3 times:

1. 2006 - Roger Federer (92-5) - 8 big titles, 3 other finals
Australian Open, Indian Wells, Miami, Wimbledon, Toronto, US Open, Madrid, ATP Finals
Runner-Up: Monte Carlo, Rome, French Open (losses to Nadal)

2. 2011 - Novak Djokovic (70-6) - 8 big titles, 1 other final
Australian Open, Indian Wells, Miami, Madrid, Rome, Wimbledon, Montreal, US Open
Runner-Up: Cincinnati (loss to Murray)

3. 2013 - Serena Williams (78-4) - 8 big titles, 2 other finals
Miami, Madrid, Rome, French Open, Toronto, US Open, Beijing, WTA Finals
Runner-Up: Doha, Cincinnati (losses to Azarenka)

This has not been accomplished by Nadal, Sampras, or Agassi. It's hard to compare to players before the 90s since tournaments were ranked pretty differently before then, though Graf did not accomplish this during the 90s.

I would have to give the edge to Federer as the best season (3 slams and ATP finals), followed by Djokovic (3 slams), then Serena (2 slams and WTA finals). Djokovic was the only one who won titles on all surfaces, though.

Do you think this is a good criterion to use when selecting the most dominant seasons since 1990?

Weak field vs strong field.
Btw, welcome to the forum...we just needed one more Fed fanatic.

 

[mike danny]

Weak field vs strong field.
Btw, welcome to the forum...we just needed one more Fed fanatic.

yeah whenever somebody fails to do something it is because of strong filed.....good excuse. so the guy who failed gets more praise than the guy who actually did it.

stupid logic.....

 

[TheAnty-vic]

This is already a pro-Nadal forum and you should be grateful, so leave the other posters alone.

And I'm not saying this because it's Christmas. :twisted:

O really?

 

[TMF]

Weak field vs strong field.
Btw, welcome to the forum...we just needed one more Fed fanatic.

And we don't need more butthurt from you.

 

[chandu612]

And we don't need more butthurt from you.

lol...when people started liking Nadal, Federer is already a force. So all Nadal fans didnt want to be Fed fans..so who is butthurt? Fans who are stuck on Fed bandwagon and crying watching getting his rear whipped by Nadal...hilarious

 

[drm025]

Weak field vs strong field.
Btw, welcome to the forum...we just needed one more Fed fanatic.

I'm actually a Nadal fan, haha, but an objective one. Simply, he's never won 8 big titles in a year.

 

[drm025]

I do agree that the competition was a little tougher after 2006 (e.g. Fed had to beat Baghdatis to win the AO) but Djokovic did manage to pull it off in 2011.

 

[mike danny]

I do agree that the competition was a little tougher after 2006 (e.g. Fed had to beat Baghdatis to win the AO) but Djokovic did manage to pull it off in 2011.

Exactly LOL!!! Chandu has shot himself in the foot. So 2011 had a weak filed by his logic?

 

[Team10]

lol...when people started liking Nadal, Federer is already a force. So all Nadal fans didnt want to be Fed fans..so who is butthurt? Fans who are stuck on Fed bandwagon and crying watching getting his rear whipped by Nadal...hilarious

Your ignore list is faulty.

 

[Backspin1183]

I'm actually a Nadal fan, haha, but an objective one. Simply, he's never won 8 big titles in a year.

Then you'd know there's nothing like 8 big title season. What counts is the slams and number of titles. Nadal won 10 titles in 2013 including FO and USO.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

If we consider the big tournaments to be the Grand Slams, Masters(for men) and Premier Mandatory/Premier 5/Tier I(for women), and YECs, that gives you an equal number of big tournaments for both the men and women each year, 14. Looking back over the past 20 years or so, the highest number of big tournaments won by one player in a single year was 8. And this happened 3 times:

1. 2006 - Roger Federer (92-5) - 8 big titles, 3 other finals
Australian Open, Indian Wells, Miami, Wimbledon, Toronto, US Open, Madrid, ATP Finals
Runner-Up: Monte Carlo, Rome, French Open (losses to Nadal)

2. 2011 - Novak Djokovic (70-6) - 8 big titles, 1 other final
Australian Open, Indian Wells, Miami, Madrid, Rome, Wimbledon, Montreal, US Open
Runner-Up: Cincinnati (loss to Murray)

3. 2013 - Serena Williams (78-4) - 8 big titles, 2 other finals
Miami, Madrid, Rome, French Open, Toronto, US Open, Beijing, WTA Finals
Runner-Up: Doha, Cincinnati (losses to Azarenka)

This has not been accomplished by Nadal, Sampras, or Agassi. It's hard to compare to players before the 90s since tournaments were ranked pretty differently before then, though Graf did not accomplish this during the 90s.

I would have to give the edge to Federer as the best season (3 slams and ATP finals), followed by Djokovic (3 slams), then Serena (2 slams and WTA finals). Djokovic was the only one who won titles on all surfaces, though.

Do you think this is a good criterion to use when selecting the most dominant seasons since 1990?

That's interesting, didn't know this existed. Just goes to show how special those seasons were, and how you had to basically dominate week and week out for a very long time. By the way, welcome to the boards!

 

[drm025]

Then you'd know there's nothing like 8 big title season. What counts is the slams and number of titles. Nadal won 10 titles in 2013 including FO and USO.

Yes, but at the same time he didnt play Australia and lost first round Wimbledon. He won 7 big titles this year, so very close to making this list. Let's see what he can do next year when he's not coming back from 7 months out.

 

[eldanger25]

An interesting post - what I take from it is that it's even more clear how hard court-centric professional tennis has become. The multi-generational move from natural surfaces to concrete etc. - which has brought the game to new places, since HCs are of course much cheaper to maintain - is basically complete. The rankings and surface distribution of "big" tournaments reflect this - among your Big 14 tournaments, 9 are on HCs, worth 11500 points; 4 are on clay, worth 5000 points, and then SW19 worth 2000.

I'd take Fed's 2006, by the way - for the YEC; for nearly toppling Nadal at his athletic peak at various points across the clay court season; and for the aesthetics of Fed at his toppermost.

 

[timnz]

Most Dominant Year in tennis history 1967

Laver won every important tournament available to him that year with a total of 19 titles.

french Pro, wembley, us pro, wimbledon pro, madison square garden pro, world professional championships oklahoma + 13 more

 

[Graf=GOAT]

Laver won every important tournament available to him that year with a total of 19 titles.

french Pro, wembley, us pro, wimbledon pro, madison square garden pro, world professional championships oklahoma + 13 more

Pre open era is about as hard as present day challenger tour.

 

[Backspin1183]

Yes, but at the same time he didnt play Australia and lost first round Wimbledon. He won 7 big titles this year, so very close to making this list. Let's see what he can do next year when he's not coming back from 7 months out.

Do you think Federer or Djokovic would dominate the tour like Nadal if they came back from 7 months out???? NO!

And Nadal's had 3 multi slam years to Djokovic's one. Deal with it, my dear Nadal "fan".

I'm a Federer-Djokovic fan but an objective one. Nadal is better as their H2Hs suggest. I wish Djokovic were better but he has 6 slams to Nadal's 13!

 

[Tenez101]

Wait, why am I being confused for being someone else? You can check my name, I've been posting over at the Tennis Frontier forum, but then I found this one which seems to have way more posters and greater variety of opinions. I posted this same thread over there, too.

Get out while you still can.

 

[Kalin]

I misread 'titles' and was about to say it is clearly Serena followed by the 'old' Halep. My bad....

 

[drm025]

Do you think Federer or Djokovic would dominate the tour like Nadal if they came back from 7 months out???? NO!

And Nadal's had 3 multi slam years to Djokovic's one. Deal with it, my dear Nadal "fan".

I'm a Federer-Djokovic fan but an objective one. Nadal is better as their H2Hs suggest. I wish Djokovic were better but he has 6 slams to Nadal's 13!

You're talking about things outside the scope of this thread. Nowhere did I say any player was better than any other player. I never mentioned multi-slam years or coming back from injury in the OP. I am only talking about the 3 seasons where a single player won the most big titles, and whether those seasons are the most dominant we have seen in the past 20 years or so.

I don't why you question me being a Nadal fan. I agree that he was dominant for most of this year. I'm just stating the fact that he didn't win 8 big titles. Being objective means looking at the facts.

 

[drm025]

I misread 'titles' and was about to say it is clearly Serena followed by the 'old' Halep. My bad....

Lol! Nice.

 

[timnz]

Ah No

Pre open era is about as hard as present day challenger tour.

Ah, No. It is clear that they were of great standard when you later get Laver pushing 40 years old winning sets off of Borg. When Laver was nearly 37 he pushed Borg to 5 sets. So peak Laver? He would have cleaned house with the 1970's open era guys.