My Roland garros 2020 Draw analysis.

Beckerserve

Legend
Lol medvedev won’t even get to semis. I don’t think he’s won a first round at the french. He lost early in Hamburg! ;)
Only issue is the balls which i think are almost of Russian design. Heavy balls will suit Medvedev all day long as he will just hit ugly shot after ugly shot and wear opponents down. Potential issue for Djokovic is that slice 2nd serve of his that has been devastating will not do much on clay with a heavy ball. So if he got Medvedev that could be a 6 hour match!! With babolat balls Medevedev would be out before 4th round.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
The draw is laughably favorable for him. Zverev should have been on his side to balance it somewhat. If you're Novak could you have designed this to be any better?
Zverev? Are you guys serious? Zverev is so out of form and confidence he is a dream qf draw. Shame he wont get that far.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Djokovic tanked the 5th Set vs. Thiem at Roland Garros last year, and I don't think he'll want to play Nadal this year either.
He knows he can only beat 2015 Nadal at Roland Garros, and Nadal will lead their slam h2h 10-6 if they meet this year.
Do you honestly think like that, or believe that a pro athlete like Djokovic would think like that?!
No words...
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
I liked the post though for the hubris of suggesting it.
I've seen idiocy like that from others as well in my two years here - players sabotaging their own success to not ruin their H2H record with a rival.

It's scary that someone would even think that a pro athlete would think, "Wow, I have a shot at winning Slam #18, of being the first of the OE to win a double career slam, practically clinch YE#1 and get closer to the record for weeks at #1! Oh wait, I better tank before the final, 'cause if I lose to Rafa, some chucklehead will post that I'm 6-10 versus him at slams."
 

Beckerserve

Legend
I've seen idiocy like that from others as well in my two years here - players sabotaging their own success to not ruin their H2H record with a rival.

It's scary that someone would even think that a pro athlete would think, "Wow, I have a shot at winning Slam #18, of being the first of the OE to win a double career slam, practically clinch YE#1 and get closer to the record for weeks at #1! Oh wait, I better tank before the final, 'cause if I lose to Rafa, some chucklehead will post that I'm 6-10 versus him at slams."
I think some may have believed Agassis book too much. He said in 1996 he tanked v Chang to avoid Becker. Having watched the match the reality was it was windy and Agassi hated the wind as he took ball so early it threw him off. But for a book sale better to throw in tanking to avoid a war with Becker.
Djokovic lost last year because of the wind always harder for the guy who takes it earlier.
 

tudwell

G.O.A.T.
Zverev? Are you guys serious? Zverev is so out of form and confidence he is a dream qf draw. Shame he wont get that far.
He was literally two points from a slam title in the last event he played. That's out of form and confidence? Then Nadal might as well be on the challenger tour given how he played in Rome.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
I think some may have believed Agassis book too much. He said in 1996 he tanked v Chang to avoid Becker. Having watched the match the reality was it was windy and Agassi hated the wind as he took ball so early it threw him off. But for a book sale better to throw in tanking to avoid a war with Becker.
Djokovic lost last year because of the wind always harder for the guy who takes it earlier.
I did read, and mostly liked, "Open", though didn't remember that claim (I believe you). I think Andre may have indeed exaggerated here and there.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
He was literally two points from a slam title in the last event he played. That's out of form and confidence? Then Nadal might as well be on the challenger tour given how he played in Rome.
You really were impressed with Zverev? Reason he made final was because this era is weakest of all time bar 3 chaps.
 

Jack the Hack

Hall of Fame
There are quite a few interesting 1st round match-ups:
  • Nishikori vs Evans
  • Sinner vs Goffin
  • Thiem vs Cilic
  • FAA vs Nishioka
  • Wawrinka vs Murray
  • Bublik vs Monfils
  • Shapovalov vs Simon
  • Querrey vs Rublev
  • Pospisil vs Berrettini
  • Tiafoe vs Struff
  • PCB vs Millman
  • RBA vs Gasquet
  • Garin vs Kohlschrieber
Even Djokovic vs Mikael Ymer has some interest in the sense that Ymer is supposed to be one of the young guns (although I expect him to get thumped in straight sets).
 

Druss

Hall of Fame
Many unknowns playing in R1, then you get Wawrinka vs Murray....talk about balance. Anyways, should be a cracker of a first round match.
 

tudwell

G.O.A.T.
You really were impressed with Zverev? Reason he made final was because this era is weakest of all time bar 3 chaps.
He was quite comprehensive on his way to the semifinal of both the Australian and the US. He had significant wobbles in those last two matches, but he also had periods of great play. The Zverev of the first two sets of the US Open final absolutely beats the Nadal who showed up in Rome.
 

blablavla

G.O.A.T.
Only issue is the balls which i think are almost of Russian design. Heavy balls will suit Medvedev all day long as he will just hit ugly shot after ugly shot and wear opponents down. Potential issue for Djokovic is that slice 2nd serve of his that has been devastating will not do much on clay with a heavy ball. So if he got Medvedev that could be a 6 hour match!! With babolat balls Medevedev would be out before 4th round.

clay is his weakest surface, by far.
let's see if he can go past first round for beginning
 

blablavla

G.O.A.T.
Do you honestly think like that, or believe that a pro athlete like Djokovic would think like that?!
No words...

even if pro athletes don't think like this, this is what many Novak fans here truly believe.
so, let us tease them a bit with their own medicine :)
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
So what happened to the "RG draw will be rigged against Djokovic / in favour of Nadal, book it" crowd?

Bet your life Djokovic gets Thiem!!!

The Universe against Serbia!!!
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Beckerserve

Legend
He was quite comprehensive on his way to the semifinal of both the Australian and the US. He had significant wobbles in those last two matches, but he also had periods of great play. The Zverev of the first two sets of the US Open final absolutely beats the Nadal who showed up in Rome.
Lol. This is so funny. Nadal would beat Zverev something like 6-3 6-2 6-1. Nadal got lucky getting Zverev.
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
Delusional to think Zverev on this form is a threat to Nadal lol.
In their last meeting Zverev schooled Nadal 6-2 6-4. And in their last meeting on clay Zverev won a set 6-1. It is delusional to think Zverev is an easy opponent.

Ask 100 fans who is the easier 1/4 final opponent-Zverev or RBA. You are the only person who would choose Zverev.
 

myth

Professional
Only issue is the balls which i think are almost of Russian design. Heavy balls will suit Medvedev all day long as he will just hit ugly shot after ugly shot and wear opponents down. Potential issue for Djokovic is that slice 2nd serve of his that has been devastating will not do much on clay with a heavy ball. So if he got Medvedev that could be a 6 hour match!! With babolat balls Medevedev would be out before 4th round.

I thought you were talking about Nadal.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
In their last meeting Zverev schooled Nadal 6-2 6-4. And in their last meeting on clay Zverev won a set 6-1. It is delusional to think Zverev is an easy opponent.

Ask 100 fans who is the easier 1/4 final opponent-Zverev or RBA. You are the only person who would choose Zverev.
RBA would be much harder for Nadal. Zverev now is a woeful player. He is absolutely not a threat on clay. In fact i would not be surprised if he is out in r1. Nadal got lucky with this draw. Very lucky.
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
No. I just understand tennis. You are just trying to pop off at Djokovic all the time and diminish his achievements if he wins. I am honest. I love Nadal but he got a soft draw until semi final.
Are you a 7 years old or something? Even Djokovic fans admit he has an absolute cakewalk draw. And you think he has the hardest draw? Yes, you are just a troll.

Sure, RBA who never won a set against Nadal (and moreover won just 7 games in their last 2 meetings combined) is a bigger threat than Zverev who won their last meeting 6-2 6-4 and almost won their last clay meeting. And also was in AO semifinal and USO final recently. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

Beckerserve

Legend
Are you a 7 years old or something? Even Djokovic fans admit he has an absolute cakewalk draw. And you think he has the hardest draw? Yes, you are just a troll.

Sure, RBA who never won a set against Nadal (and moreover won just 7 games in their last 2 meetings combined) is a bigger threat than Zverev who won their last meeting 6-2 6-4 and almost won their last clay meeting. And also was in AO semifinal and USO final recently. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
What bit of Zverev FH and his 2nd serve impresses him. Djokovic has a tough draw. From r3 onwards it is tricky. Not as bad as Thiems but far harder than Nadal.
You are just doing jinx posts. Actually analyse the game objectively. Are you even watching Hamburg?
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
What bit of Zverev FH and his 2nd serve impresses him. Djokovic has a tough draw. From r3 onwards it is tricky. Not as bad as Thiems but far harder than Nadal.
You are just doing jinx posts. Actually analyse the game objectively. Are you even watching Hamburg?
Well, I guess another troll is joining my ignore list. So satisfying to get rid of these 7 years old Djokovic fanboys.
 
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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
i really worry about Stepanoe Tsitsipas playing so much tennis in Hamburg. he will likely win but won't he be too tired to win the french open ?
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Who cares about him? He is losing early in every slam for ages now. He wasn't going past the third round anyway.
No,, this time it will be different. After Thiem won the US open, this gave new belief that stepanoe too can win a major because he truly believes he is Better than Thiem in his mind. So i believe Stepanoe will win the French open and surprise everyone. All Bookies will get ripped for this one.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
i really worry about Stepanoe Tsitsipas playing so much tennis in Hamburg. he will likely win but won't he be too tired to win the french open ?
No. It is exactly what he needed to build confidence. If he wins Hamburg i think he could win FO. He has a very good clay game as his BH is much more reliable and he has more time on return of serve. I was desperate for Nadal to avoid him before a potential final. He was guy along with Shapolav i most feared. I think for those hoping Djokovic is knocked out one of tsisipas rublev or shapolav in semis could really trouble him. Any of those 3 would have probably taken nadal out in semis.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
No,, this time it will be different. After Thiem won the US open, this gave new belief that stepanoe too can win a major because he truly believes he is Better than Thiem in his mind. So i believe Stepanoe will win the French open and surprise everyone. All Bookies will get ripped for this one.
Tsitisipas has a poor return game on faster courts. On clay he has a winning record v Thiem.!
 

sredna42

Hall of Fame
Djokovic wins this tournamemt easy lol. What a fantastic draw.
No he won't. Novak will be playing more than just the player on the other side of the net at RG. He'll also have the chair umpire against him, and pretty much every linesman.
Looking forward to the WWE tier bad calls at important moments to go against him.
 
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Deleted member 770948

Guest
Do you honestly think like that, or believe that a pro athlete like Djokovic would think like that?!
No words...
Djokovic is not known for being professional, and who knows what goes on in his head? We can only speculate, but that is what I think after watching Djokovic play some uncharacteristically reckless tennis in that 5th Set. And Djokovic is the master of the 5th Set, known for superb clutchness.
 

ForehandRF

Legend
Can you imagine how disastrous it would be if Nadal was never given the opportunity of playing Djokovic ever again at Roland Garros?
Being forced to only play Djokovic at hardcourt slams would be completely unfair.
Playing at Wimbledon is ok, considering Djokovic needed 10-8 5th Set to beat Nadal at Wimbeldon 2018 with a closed roof, but they rarely meet there.
Nadal looking to improve to 10-6 vs. Djokovic at slams, unless Djokovic tanks in the semi again....

I'm trying to figure out who will take a set from Nadal.....
Thiem is the toughest opponent, but they've played THIRTEEN sets at Roland Garros and Thiem has only won ONE set.....and it was a very difficult 7-5 set.
Maybe Fognini if he's on fire can take a set.
Djokovic has the more difficult Semi-final, so if he doesn't want to face Nadal he'll be able to tank very easily unfortunately.
Yeah, because they didn't played already 7 times there, almost the same number of times they played at the other 3 slams combined.Another win there for Nadal would not matter that much for the rivalry because everybody knows that Nadal is much better at the French than Djokovic.
 
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