Nadal Fans - Do you care if he chases Year End #1/Year End #2?

[McEnroeisanartist]

Nadal Fans - Do you care if Nadal chases Year End #1/Year End #2

It seems #1 might be out of reach, but #2 is obviously still very much a possibility.

Obviously, he would tie Sampras for most year end #1's if he finishes #1.

He would break a tie with Federer for most year end Top 2's if he finishes #2.
He would also break a tie with Federer most years between Top 2.

 

[Deleted member 771911]

No. Nadal is smart. He is not going to burn himself out chasing no.1. He's like Serena like that. They know the true path to GOATness
Plus, he's already got, what, five? Holds the record with Fed and Djokovic?

 

[FrontHeadlock]

It will be a literal joke if they award a YE #1 for this season.

 

[octogon]

Absolutely not.

We are in the middle of a pandemic. All those things are secondary stats. The most important thing is who ends up with the most Grand Slams.

Novak can have those records. As a Nadal fan, I want him to have his best preparations to win more slams, not chase ranking records, which are nice to have, but nowhere as important.

 

[Bud]

Don't care. No YE#1 will be valid.

 

[Amritia]

I don't care about being number 1. However being in top 2 is important for Aus Open, as it avoid Djokovic until the final.

 

[StrongRule]

I don't care about being number 1. However being in top 2 is important for Aus Open, as it avoid Djokovic until the final.

And why is this good? Facing him in the final is probably the worst thing.

 

[ibbi]

Chasing a ranking is stupid. Overplaying at his age would be the dumbest thing he could do.

 

[Harry_Wild]

No! Rafa does not care about #1 rankings. He trying to make history by winning GS tournaments! All three, Federer, Djokovic and Rafa have been #1 ranking over and over again for many years!

 

[Amritia]

And why is this good? Facing him in the final is probably the worst thing.

He could lose to Thiem in the semi, and Thiem is a easier final than Djokovic.

 

[FrontHeadlock]

And why is this good? Facing him in the final is probably the worst thing.

Well, if you are Nadal and you think you are the 2nd best player to Djokovic in Australia, it's still good for you to get the extra 480 ranking points and to have another Major final on your resume.

 

[StrongRule]

He could lose to Thiem in the semi, and Thiem is a easier final than Djokovic.

I honestly don't know who is a good enough opponent for Nadal in AO final. Somehow he just can't win it no matter what. Every time something happens.

 

[Amritia]

I honestly don't know who is a good enough opponent for Nadal in AO final. Somehow he just can't win it no matter what. Every time something happens.

He's second favourite for 2021 AO in my opinion. Djokovic is supremely confident there and will be tough to beat. If Thiem or someone manages to oust Djokovic, Nadal will be in pole position.

 

[Nadal_King]

If rafa finishes out of top 2, it's guaranteed he will fall in djokovic's half thanks to craig Tiley .IYKWIM

 

[NoleFam]

I think Nadal will play the WTF. I think now that he has reached 20, he has to feel like he wants to win the one real big title he's missing that all the rest of the ATGs have. I don't think he cares about anything about the rankings though at this point in time.

 

[StrongRule]

I think Nadal will play the WTF. I think now that he has reached 20, he has to feel like he wants to win the one real big title he's missing that all the rest of the ATGs have. I don't think he cares about anything about the rankings though at this point in time.

Typical thoughts of Djokovic fans. No need to bring these ideas to our fanbases. I really hope Nadal never plays this "tournament" again. It is a joke, as we have seen last year.

 

[The Blond Blur]

Nadal Fans - Do you care if he chases Year End #1/Year End #2?

They played like 10 tournaments this year The 2020 YE#1 is asterisk city

 

[NoleFam]

Typical thoughts of Djokovic fans. No need to bring these ideas to our fanbases. I really hope Nadal never plays this "tournament" again. It is a joke, as we have seen last year.

The tournament is not a joke and it is historic among the greats. Many great battles were made there and it was a motivation for players to go there and win and gain YE #1.

 

[Patriots]

I think Rafa will play this year not because of a chase for #1, but simply because he hasn't played that much so his body isn't worn out at this time of the year. If he gets #1 , great , if not, no biggie as far he's concerned.

When has a noninjured Nadal played only 2 clay court tournaments and 3 HC tournaments by mid October? He's obviously worked himself back into top playing condition so he might as well compete , plus the sponsors/tour are pressuring the top guys by now to "save" what's left of the ATP schedule.

 

[mehdimike]

He could lose to Thiem in the semi, and Thiem is a easier final than Djokovic.

OR

 

[daphne]

Goodness me. Everyone knows what Nadl thinks! Everyone!

 

[Kozzy]

To me, the #1 ranking should be low priority for these guys - I mean, it is gravy, but so much less important than making deep runs at slams. Even masters 1000s seem a bit irrelevant for these guys beyond staying match tough.

 

[Amritia]

OR

or what? lol

 

[mehdimike]

or what? lol

Or could lose to Stan if not Thiem

 

[chicagodude]

The tournament is not a joke and it is historic among the greats. Many great battles were made there and it was a motivation for players to go there and win and gain YE #1.

I agree, but to me it has lost a lot of its luster after they did away with the best-of-5 final format.

EIther way, I do think Nadal will try this year (assuming it's being played), since he's never been as fresh at the end of the year as this year, for obvious reasons. Normally it's not only the indoor conditions that are an issue but also because he is usually relatively more burnt up at end of season than several other players, especially Djokovic and Federer. Seems like a relatively decent chance this year.

 

[UnderratedSlam]

Rankings should be not very relevant to all fan bases, especially this year.

To me it's about the slams, M1000s and...

No, not the Masters Cup.

 

[NoleFam]

I agree, but to me it has lost a lot of its luster after they did away with the best-of-5 final format.

EIther way, I do think Nadal will try this year (assuming it's being played), since he's never been as fresh at the end of the year as this year, for obvious reasons. Normally it's not only the indoor conditions that are an issue but also because he is usually relatively more burnt up at end of season than several other players, especially Djokovic and Federer. Seems like a relatively decent chance this year.

Yea he should come in a lot fresher this year and he has a chance so why not go for it and play it? I think he will too. I don't know about Paris though.

 

[PeoplesChamp]

To me, the #1 ranking should be low priority for these guys - I mean, it is gravy, but so much less important than making deep runs at slams. Even masters 1000s seem a bit irrelevant for these guys beyond staying match tough.

Deep consistent runs at slams are what keeps someone in contention for #1.

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

Typical thoughts of Djokovic fans. No need to bring these ideas to our fanbases. I really hope Nadal never plays this "tournament" again. It is a joke, as we have seen last year.

Aren’t you a Djokovic fan?

 

[Backspin1183]

Not this year. He's not gonna be year end #1 anyway. #2 or #4 doesn't make a huge difference.

 

[PeoplesChamp]

I agree, but to me it has lost a lot of its luster after they did away with the best-of-5 final format.

EIther way, I do think Nadal will try this year (assuming it's being played), since he's never been as fresh at the end of the year as this year, for obvious reasons. Normally it's not only the indoor conditions that are an issue but also because he is usually relatively more burnt up at end of season than several other players, especially Djokovic and Federer. Seems like a relatively decent chance this year.

No Federer. It's now or never. Of course it won't mean as much unless it's over Djokovic which I give Nadal about 20% chance.

 

[zuluzazu]

No Federer. It's now or never. Of course it won't mean as much unless it's over Djokovic which I give Nadal about 20% chance.

So according to you Federer's RG title doesn't mean anything since he did not beat rafa to get the title? Why do you have to beat Djoker at WTF for the title to mean something?

 

[Amritia]

Or could lose to Stan if not Thiem

Nah, Stan's time at the top is over I'm afraid.

 

[PeoplesChamp]

So according to you Federer's RG title doesn't mean anything since he did not beat rafa to get the title? Why do you have to beat Djoker at WTF for the title to mean something?

Are you really comparing one of the greatest competition years in tennis history in 2009 to 2020 pretenders?Besides, Nadal was present for 2009 FO. Next.

 

[zuluzazu]

Are you really comparing one of the greatest competition years in tennis history in 2009 to 2020 pretenders?

IMHO if nadal wins any tournament by not beating djoker and it is asterisked then so should be RG2009 and RG 2016. But I don't believe in any asterisk and you beat the opponent in front of you. I feel RG2009 was a great tourney for fed but when fed faces del potro in RG(clay) it is a tough draw but when nadal faces del potro in USO when he is already a USO champ then it is a laughable draw. These kind of double standards irk me. Del Potro has never done anything on clay but he is a damn good hard court player.

 

[Rabin]

Torn on this, want him to have the best preparation for AO and that might mean having a few matches in November/December as to not lose match fitness. But at this point I have faith in Rafa and his team, they've been smart about the schedule.

 

[PeoplesChamp]

IMHO if nadal wins any tournament by not beating djoker and it is asterisked then so should be RG2009 and RG 2016. But I don't believe in any asterisk and you beat the opponent in front of you. I feel RG2009 was a great tourney for fed but when fed faces del potro in RG(clay) it is a tough draw but when nadal faces del potro in USO when he is already a USO champ then it is a laughable draw. These kind of double standards irk me. Del Potro has never done anything on clay but he is a damn good hard court player.

That's the thing. Everything always comes back to RG or clay with you guys. I wonder why 2009 Delpo was pre injury Delpo. You can't compare 2017 Delpo to 2009 Delpo. If Delpo had been able to maintain the same BH he had in 2009 he would have been a bigger force on clay. He couldn't because his wrist was through.

 

[Yugram]

Typical thoughts of Djokovic fans. No need to bring these ideas to our fanbases. I really hope Nadal never plays this "tournament" again. It is a joke, as we have seen last year.

Yeah. Nadal could beat Djokovic, Thiem, Zverev in straight sets in a row and they’d still find a reason why he won’t make it out of RR.

 

[FrontHeadlock]

That's the thing. Everything always comes back to RG or clay with you guys. I wonder why 2009 Delpo was pre injury Delpo. You can't compare 2017 Delpo to 2009 Delpo. If Delpo had been able to maintain the same BH he had in 2009 he would have been a bigger force on clay. He couldn't because his wrist was through.

Let's be fair, it does with Nadal haters too.

"Except for clay..."

"Outside of clay..."

"If you remove RG from the equation..."

 

[zuluzazu]

That's the thing. Everything always comes back to RG or clay with you guys. I wonder why 2009 Delpo was pre injury Delpo. You can't compare 2017 Delpo to 2009 Delpo. If Delpo had been able to maintain the same BH he had in 2009 he would have been a bigger force on clay. He couldn't because his wrist was through.

Actually we are not the ones that always bring up stats like with RG and without RG. We also don't say that excluding one slam A is greater than B. Basically we don't cherry-pick stats.

 

[PeoplesChamp]

Let's be fair, it does with Nadal haters too.

"Except for clay..."

"Outside of clay..."

"If you remove RG from the equation..."

See. 3/4 lines about clay

 

[PeoplesChamp]

Actually we are not the ones that always bring up stats like with RG and without RG. We also don't say that excluding one slam A is greater than B. Basically we don't cherry-pick stats.

You take overall stats and try to make Nadal appear better than he actually is while ignoring why the overall stat is higher. It's basically bs.

 

[zuluzazu]

You take overall stats and try to make Nadal appear better than he actually is while ignoring why the overall stat is higher. It's basically bs.

Because being a super human in facet cant be a liability. It just cant but fed fans always try to potray his godly dominance as something that tarnishes his resume. I personally don't think Nadal is yet the GOAT but cherry picking stats is something that I cant tolerate. Either we look at the complete stats or don't use stats at all.

 

[Third Serve]

Now is not the time to discuss tennis. Let us make a few masks , donate blood and do other things that are the need of the hour.

 

[beast of mallorca]

Nadal Fans - Do you care if Nadal chases Year End #1/Year End #2

It seems #1 might be out of reach, but #2 is obviously still very much a possibility.

Obviously, he would tie Sampras for most year end #1's if he finishes #1.

He would break a tie with Federer for most year end Top 2's if he finishes #2.
He would also break a tie with Federer most years between Top 2.

He can chase number 1 next year. No point in doing anything now.

Let the others get the scraps. We're on to greater things

 

[Beckerserve]

Nadal Fans - Do you care if Nadal chases Year End #1/Year End #2

It seems #1 might be out of reach, but #2 is obviously still very much a possibility.

Obviously, he would tie Sampras for most year end #1's if he finishes #1.

He would break a tie with Federer for most year end Top 2's if he finishes #2.
He would also break a tie with Federer most years between Top 2.

YE1 means nothing this year for obvious reasons. I hope he skips rest of season so goes to australia fresh. Last year he made a mistake playing after USO.

 

[Beckerserve]

I think Nadal will play the WTF. I think now that he has reached 20, he has to feel like he wants to win the one real big title he's missing that all the rest of the ATGs have. I don't think he cares about anything about the rankings though at this point in time.

He wont play london. No chance. And he will be right to skip it.