Ok I admit it now. Murray will never win Wimbledon.

[Fedex]

Watching Murray against Lubicic this evening is the final straw for me.
I now believe Murray will never win Wimbledon due to a combination of factors:

History - the pressure is massve for a British player. No winners in 75 years! Huge expectations and Murray just can't control his emotions here, gets too excited. Needs more composure and control.
Mentality - Murray is better but still self destructive. That personality trait is ingrained and just won't go away, ever.
Competition - Djokovic, Federer and Nadal - 3 of the greatest players to play the game in front of him. How can he overcome that? Yes he's done it before but not under these conditions and with them all on the top of their games.

Murray has the talent absolutely no doubt but mentality is king here.

This year, I think he'll beat Lubicic but next he has Gasquet, that's really tough, then he has Nadal followed by Federer or Djokovic.
That's just not going to happen.
And it'll be the same thing next year and the next.
Federer's not going anywhere soon, contrary to popular belief. That's a problem in itself, never mind the others.

Cast this thread back up if I'm wrong. Make me eat my words.
I'd be glad if you did but it's not going to happen.

Murray was truly born to make people angry. Including his fans.

 

[r2473]

You should apply for a job with the BBC.

 

[Fedex]

Edit: And one more factor I forgot to mention - he keeps going for everything even near impossible looking balls all the time and ends up leaving himself worn out near the final stages of Slams.
Against Lubocic tonight I saw Murray tweak his hamstring.
I wonder why he said sarcastically?

 

[rovex]

Didn't you make the same thread last year?

 

[Oceansize]

Edit: And one more factor I forgot to mention - he keeps going for everything even near impossible looking balls all the time and ends up leaving himself worn out near the final stages of Slams.
Against Lubocic tonight I saw Murray tweak his hamstring.
I wonder why he said sarcastically?

Yeah, his natural instinct is always to counter-punch. He gets involved in lots of long passive rallies, letting his opponent dictate, and getting Murray scurying around the court.

 

[ashitaka2010]

I agree, he is REALLY frustrating to watch...
I thought that maybe seing Novak get his mental on track could influence him or something but when i saw his awful body language/antics at RG, well even if it's clay and not a goal for him, that was so sad to see.

And now he's doing the same at home! Ugh!

 

[Deleted member 120290]

Murray has ZERO chance of winning a major and least of all, Wimbledon, unless he undergoes a MAJOR, SPECTACULAR mental transformation. Even then I don't think he will win one. He is not as talented as many think he is. To me, he is just a level above Roddick and below the Big 3 and Delpo. Hitting cute dinky shots, lobs and silly angles better than anyone else will not get you a major title. Celebrating each winning point or punching your racket after every losing point (even when your opponent hits a brilliant shot) will DEFINITELY prevent you from winning the big one. Too much mental and physically energy being wasted. He will be fried by Semis (if he gets that far.)

 

[Defcon]

Talent alone never won anyone anything. If you don't have discipline, composure, determination and the right attitude, you might get lucky and generate a lot of hype, but when it really counts, you'll fold.

That's exactly what's happening with Murray. Plus the fact that his game his not good enough to win - by that I mean if Murray, Fed, Nadal and Djoker all play their very best, Murray would get blown out by all 3 very easily.

 

[MixieP]

Watching Murray against Lubicic this evening is the final straw for me.
I now believe Murray will never win Wimbledon due to a combination of factors:

History - the pressure is massve for a British player. No winners in 75 years! Huge expectations and Murray just can't control his emotions here, gets too excited. Needs more composure and control.
Mentality - Murray is better but still self destructive. That personality trait is ingrained and just won't go away, ever.
Competition - Djokovic, Federer and Nadal - 3 of the greatest players to play the game in front of him. How can he overcome that? Yes he's done it before but not under these conditions and with them all on the top of their games.

Murray has the talent absolutely no doubt but mentality is king here.

This year, I think he'll beat Lubicic but next he has Gasquet, that's really tough, then he has Nadal followed by Federer or Djokovic.
That's just not going to happen.
And it'll be the same thing next year and the next.
Federer's not going anywhere soon, contrary to popular belief. That's a problem in itself, never mind the others.

Cast this thread back up if I'm wrong. Make me eat my words.
I'd be glad if you did but it's not going to happen.

Murray was truly born to make people angry. Including his fans.

Edit: And one more factor I forgot to mention - he keeps going for everything even near impossible looking balls all the time and ends up leaving himself worn out near the final stages of Slams.
Against Lubocic tonight I saw Murray tweak his hamstring.
I wonder why he said sarcastically?

Sensible strategy, to play his chances down. Victory will be sweeter (and defeat not so painful).

However, Andy looking good, will win Wimbledon.

 

[marc45]

Watching Murray against Lubicic this evening is the final straw for me.
I now believe Murray will never win Wimbledon due to a combination of factors:

History - the pressure is massve for a British player. No winners in 75 years! Huge expectations and Murray just can't control his emotions here, gets too excited. Needs more composure and control.
Mentality - Murray is better but still self destructive. That personality trait is ingrained and just won't go away, ever.
Competition - Djokovic, Federer and Nadal - 3 of the greatest players to play the game in front of him. How can he overcome that? Yes he's done it before but not under these conditions and with them all on the top of their games.

Murray has the talent absolutely no doubt but mentality is king here.

This year, I think he'll beat Lubicic but next he has Gasquet, that's really tough, then he has Nadal followed by Federer or Djokovic.
That's just not going to happen.
And it'll be the same thing next year and the next.
Federer's not going anywhere soon, contrary to popular belief. That's a problem in itself, never mind the others.

Cast this thread back up if I'm wrong. Make me eat my words.
I'd be glad if you did but it's not going to happen.

Murray was truly born to make people angry. Including his fans.

when did djokovic become one of the greatest to ever play the game?...has he passed hewitt yet?

 

[Mainad]

Watching Murray against Lubicic this evening is the final straw for me.
I now believe Murray will never win Wimbledon due to a combination of factors:

History - the pressure is massve for a British player. No winners in 75 years! Huge expectations and Murray just can't control his emotions here, gets too excited. Needs more composure and control.
Mentality - Murray is better but still self destructive. That personality trait is ingrained and just won't go away, ever.
Competition - Djokovic, Federer and Nadal - 3 of the greatest players to play the game in front of him. How can he overcome that? Yes he's done it before but not under these conditions and with them all on the top of their games.

Murray has the talent absolutely no doubt but mentality is king here.

This year, I think he'll beat Lubicic but next he has Gasquet, that's really tough, then he has Nadal followed by Federer or Djokovic.
That's just not going to happen.
And it'll be the same thing next year and the next.
Federer's not going anywhere soon, contrary to popular belief. That's a problem in itself, never mind the others.

Cast this thread back up if I'm wrong. Make me eat my words.
I'd be glad if you did but it's not going to happen.

Murray was truly born to make people angry. Including his fans.

Good grief,Fedex.Any one would think Murray just got beaten! He DID win his match against Ljubicic you know.So he must have had enough mental focus and determination and whatever to get the job done.If he had folded and let the match slip away you might have had a point but he didn't.Give him some credit for goodness' sakes! What would you have said if he had LOST?

I don't know whether or not he will ever win Wimbledon but I do know there are enough threads on this board from assorted Murray-haters only too eager to razz in and diss him when given the chance.I am a bit surprised and dismayed you have chosen to add to them just after he WON a match! I thought you were a supporter?

 

[Homeboy Hotel]

Good grief,Fedex.Any one would think Murray just got beaten! He DID win his match against Ljubicic you know.So he must have had enough mental focus and determination and whatever to get the job done.If he had folded and let the match slip away you might have had a point but he didn't.Give him some credit for goodness' sakes! What would you have said if he had LOST?

I don't know whether or not he will ever win Wimbledon but I do know there are enough threads on this board from assorted Murray-haters only too eager to razz in and diss him when given the chance.I am a bit surprised and dismayed you have chosen to add to them just after he WON a match! I thought you were a supporter?

+ 1

 

[stronzzi70]

Your right FEDEX....he will not win wimblendon.
Bad second serve.
Too emotional.
If Murray wants to win " Please Mom can you wait outside the court"

 

[Fedex]

Good grief,Fedex.Any one would think Murray just got beaten! He DID win his match against Ljubicic you know.So he must have had enough mental focus and determination and whatever to get the job done.If he had folded and let the match slip away you might have had a point but he didn't.Give him some credit for goodness' sakes! What would you have said if he had LOST?

I don't know whether or not he will ever win Wimbledon but I do know there are enough threads on this board from assorted Murray-haters only too eager to razz in and diss him when given the chance.I am a bit surprised and dismayed you have chosen to add to them just after he WON a match! I thought you were a supporter?

I'm not being disloyal just realistic.
I've always tried to be objective about Murray and all other players.
I'm only being objective again.
I thought Murray had really sorted himself out this time heading into Wimbledon'11.
Thought he was in the best form ever especially in the mental department but tonight I saw him slipping into that old habbit of not finnishing off opponents quickly when he's on top.
That eventually takes it's toll in the later stages as we've seen repeatedly in the past.
He looks whacked out in the semis and finals and even quarters.
For instance tonight he was up 5-4 serving for the match. Ends up in a gruelling, tense tie break.
Another little bit of unnecessary mental and physical energy expended.
Against Gasquet I think he'll win but expect a marathon.
And the vicious cycle goes on.

 

[Element54]

I agree - mentally he was poor.

Somebody of his calibre shouldn't be so mentally frazzled by certain points, that negativity (which is bad for him) carries on for a few points, perhaps games causing him to be frustrated.

I am a big Murray fan, and I hope he picks it up in later stages.

 

[gregor.b]

+ 1

+ 1 more.........

 

[Fedex]

Talent alone never won anyone anything. If you don't have discipline, composure, determination and the right attitude, you might get lucky and generate a lot of hype, but when it really counts, you'll fold.

That's exactly what's happening with Murray. Plus the fact that his game his not good enough to win - by that I mean if Murray, Fed, Nadal and Djoker all play their very best, Murray would get blown out by all 3 very easily.

Sorry mate but I don't agree.
That's the frustrating thing about Murray.
I think Murray on his game beats these three if you've ever seen Murray on his game?
Last year he wiped the floor with Nadal and Federer at Toronto and Paris.
Murray strolled it.
Fed and Nadal were saying this guys too good not to win a Slam, the old cliche but true.
But mentally, I don't think Murray's good enough.

 

[Fedex]

I agree - mentally he was poor.

Somebody of his calibre shouldn't be so mentally frazzled by certain points, that negativity (which is bad for him) carries on for a few points, perhaps games causing him to be frustrated.I am a big Murray fan, and I hope he picks it up in later stages.

Exactly right. Big problem for him that just won't go away.
Terrible concentration at times.
The top 3, their concentration is incredible.
And they never seem to ease off.

 

[Oceansize]

I'm not being disloyal just realistic.
I've always tried to be objective about Murray and all other players.
I'm only being objective again.
I thought Murray had really sorted himself out this time heading into Wimbledon'11.Thought he was in the best form ever especially in the mental department but tonight I saw him slipping into that old habbit of not finnishing off opponents quickly when he's on top.
That eventually takes it's toll in the later stages as we've seen repeatedly in the past.
He looks whacked out in the semis and finals and even quarters.
For instance tonight he was up 5-4 serving for the match. Ends up in a gruelling, tense tie break.
Another little bit of unnecessary mental and physical energy expended.
Against Gasquet I think he'll win but expect a marathon.
And the vicious cycle goes on.

Lots of people (especially the BBC) have gone on about this, when it simply isn't true. I've seen nothing in the last couple of months to suggest Murray has really taken a step forward in terms of maturity and playing more aggressively. He's at the same level now that he's been at since the summer of 2008.

McEnroe was doing his best to bring some realism to the desperate Brit BBC commentators, and pointed out that Murray hasn't really changed that much in the last couple of months. I mean, some of the BBC "experts" are almost trying to make out he's stepped up to the level of the big 3, which at the moment is silly to suggest.

 

[Antonio Puente]

I think Murray on his game beats these three if you've ever seen Murray on his game? Last year he wiped the floor with Nadal and Federer at Toronto and Paris.

Murray's best game beats Nadal's and Fed's best game? I mean, on a certain day, he can beat them, yes, but I certainly wouldn't agree with that.

 

[Element54]

McEnroe was doing his best to bring some realism to the desperate Brit BBC commentators, and pointed out that Murray hasn't really changed that much in the last couple of months. I mean, some of the BBC "experts" are almost trying to make out he's stepped up to the level of the big 3, which at the moment is silly to suggest.

The worst (IMO) is Andrew Castle, he is terrible.

 

[Fedex]

Lots of people (especially the BBC) have gone on about this, when it simply isn't true. I've seen nothing in the last couple of months to suggest Murray has really taken a step forward in terms of maturity and playing more aggressively. He's at the same level now that he's been at since the summer of 2008.

McEnroe was doing his best to bring some realism to the desperate Brit BBC commentators, and pointed out that Murray hasn't really changed that much in the last couple of months. I mean, some of the BBC "experts" are almost trying to make out he's stepped up to the level of the big 3, which at the moment is silly to suggest.

I disagree with you here. It's not hype.
I think Murray has stepped it up and is playing aggressive and is mentally stronger. And I'm sure McEnroe said he's improved.
Had a great clay court season. Nearly beat Nadal and Djokovic, then got to the semis at RG and showed great mental and physical strength.
Looked great at Queens.
Then Wimbledon, somethings going wrong. He's going backwards again.
Maybe it's just the pressure here.
But, generally, he's definitely improved.
Trouble is so have the top 3.

 

[Mainad]

Exactly right. Big problem for him that just won't go away.Terrible concentration at times.The top 3, their concentration is incredible.
And they never seem to ease off.

Ha,I've seen Federer go mentally awol many times when he has been up against an opponent.Do you recall all those matches he lost last year when he held match points? There were about 4 or 5 I think.The USO semi against Djokovic was the most notorious example.This year didn't he go a couple of breaks up in the 1st set of the FO final against Nadal but ended up choking them away?

I agree that Murray's focus and concentration tends to go up and down faster than a bride's nightie and it's certainly something he needs to work on.Here I think a new,solid coach would help.To my mind,he was more consistent in his 2008-2009 period when he had a permanent coach by his side (Gilbert,then McClaghan).I wish he would get himself fixed up with someone again.The top 3 players all currently have full-time coaches (long-standing in the case of Nadal and Djokovic) and the results speak for themselves.

But so far he's been holding it together enough to get through.Tonight's match against Ljubicic was as tough as I suspected it to be.Ljuby is a very dangerous opponent when he's on and he's always been an awkward match up for Murray.But Andy came through.He knows he needs to step it up as he goes deeper. Same for everyone else!

 

[NadalAgassi]

Ha,I've seen Federer go mentally awol many times when he has been up against an opponent.Do you recall all those matches he lost last year when he held match points? There were about 4 or 5 I think.The USO semi against Djokovic was the most notorious example.

Yeah since Federer is definitely in the prime of his career after all. And in his prime when he was winning 3 slams a year he was such a choking dog wasnt he.

And Djokovic didnt hit clean winners to save the 2 match points at the U.S Open either.

 

[aceX]

Very few players ever win a major. Sorry for Murray and the UK public

 

[Oceansize]

The worst (IMO) is Andrew Castle, he is terrible.

The other day they really cracked me up. Heather Watson was playing and they were going on and on about how great she was, and then later on they said about how us Brits have a tendancy to get ahead of ourselves as we're so desperate for some good players. They really didn't seem to recognise they'd spent the last hour getting ahead of themselves, by making out she's going to be a future Slam winner or something. It's really embarrassing to listen to at times.

 

[Oceansize]

Lots of people (especially the BBC) have gone on about this, when it simply isn't true. I've seen nothing in the last couple of months to suggest Murray has really taken a step forward in terms of maturity and playing more aggressively. He's at the same level now that he's been at since the summer of 2008.

McEnroe was doing his best to bring some realism to the desperate Brit BBC commentators, and pointed out that Murray hasn't really changed that much in the last couple of months. I mean, some of the BBC "experts" are almost trying to make out he's stepped up to the level of the big 3, which at the moment is silly to suggest.

I disagree with you here. It's not hype.
I think Murray has stepped it up and is playing aggressive and is mentally stronger. And I'm sure McEnroe said he's improved.
Had a great clay court season. Nearly beat Nadal and Djokovic, then got to the semis at RG and showed great mental and physical strength.
Looked great at Queens.
Then Wimbledon, somethings going wrong. He's going backwards again.
Maybe it's just the pressure here.
But, generally, he's definitely improved.
Trouble is so have the top 3.

The only thing that impressed me really, was his match against Djokovic in Rome. Other than that, he had a cakewalk to the semis at the French, and he's already won Queens two years ago. To me, people were definitely getting ahead of themselves here, in saying he'd gone up a level.

But like we've said before, we'll just have to agree to disagree here. As a Brit, i really hope Murray can get it together and win a Slam eventually.

 

[Mainad]

Sorry mate but I don't agree.
That's the frustrating thing about Murray.I think Murray on his game beats these three if you've ever seen Murray on his game?

Absolutely.For instance,Murray's 8-6 h2h against Federer can't just be ignored.To try and argue that Federer was never playing his best on those occasions is just risible.You could just as easily argue that Murray was never playing his best whenever Fed beat him.In 2008-9 he beat Djokovic three times in a row (twice in MS finals).Of course he hasn't beaten him this year but then no-one but Federer has managed that yet.

Last year he wiped the floor with Nadal and Federer at Toronto and Paris.
Murray strolled it.

Straight setted Nadal and Fed in the semis and final of Toronto.Straight setted Fed again at the final of Shanghai (not Paris).

Fed and Nadal were saying this guys too good not to win a Slam, the old cliche but true. But mentally, I don't think Murray's good enough.

Lol...you can't help but wonder why some people on here think they know better about Murray's abilities than the top players who have actually had to play him?

 

[Oceansize]

Fed and Nadal were saying this guys too good not to win a Slam, the old cliche but true.

Lol...you can't help but wonder why some people on here think they know better about Murray's abilities than the top players who have actually had to play him?

This may be a bit cynical, but i've always been under the impression that when Nadal and Fed say things like this, they're really just trying to heap more pressure on Murray.

Nadal is great at doing this, as he often bigs up his opponent and talks down his own chances. When they say this, secretly they're thinking this: -

 

[Mainad]

This may be a bit cynical, but i've always been under the impression that when Nadal and Fed say things like this, they're really just trying to heap more pressure on Murray.

Quite possibly.But I haven't noticed them saying it about too many others.They will often point out so-and-so's potential to win a Slam but,just out of interest,who else among the current crop have they described as being too good not to win one?

 

[Fedex]

Ha,I've seen Federer go mentally awol many times when he has been up against an opponent.Do you recall all those matches he lost last year when he held match points? There were about 4 or 5 I think.The USO semi against Djokovic was the most notorious example.This year didn't he go a couple of breaks up in the 1st set of the FO final against Nadal but ended up choking them away?

I wish he would get himself fixed up with someone again.The top 3 players all currently have full-time coaches (long-standing in the case of Nadal and Djokovic) and the results speak for themselves.

Yes but even when things aren't going well, the likes of Federer and Nadal still keep their cool and maintain focus, not take epileptic fits like Murray.
If you watch Fed and Nadal at Wimbledon you can see they are 100% focused the whole match.
They maybe look too serious and boring but hey 27 Slams between them.

 

[sarmpas]

Lots of people (especially the BBC) have gone on about this, when it simply isn't true. I've seen nothing in the last couple of months to suggest Murray has really taken a step forward in terms of maturity and playing more aggressively. He's at the same level now that he's been at since the summer of 2008.

McEnroe was doing his best to bring some realism to the desperate Brit BBC commentators, and pointed out that Murray hasn't really changed that much in the last couple of months. I mean, some of the BBC "experts" are almost trying to make out he's stepped up to the level of the big 3, which at the moment is silly to suggest.

You watched the match no doubt. Murray lived and breathed the crowd's every emotional reaction to a good and bad shot. Watching Murray you'd think he was playing the final. When a player needs to react like that you just know the he's not rising above the situation and staying on a even keel emotionally, he will not make the final.

 

[Mainad]

Yes but even when things aren't going well, the likes of Federer and Nadal still keep their cool and maintain focus, not take epileptic fits like Murray.

Federer is Mr.Ice Cool always.Very Borg-like in that respect.Nadal will mutter,and cast dark looks towards Uncle Toni and his entourage.Djokovic's shoulders will slump and he will look despairingly at the heavens and shout some imprecations in Serbian.Murray punches his racket,raises his arms,shout/swears at himself or at his entourage.Each of them releases tensions in the way that comes naturally to them.

 

[sarmpas]

The worst (IMO) is Andrew Castle, he is terrible.

Give him credit for doing his utmost to gain enough brownie points to earn a cushy job for life in the LTA tennis establishment.

 

[Mainad]

You watched the match no doubt. Murray lived and breathed the crowd's every emotional reaction to a good and bad shot. Watching Murray you'd think he was playing the final.

Well if he HAD been playing the final,he would have won wouldn't he??

 

[sarmpas]

Well if he HAD been playing the final,he would have won wouldn't he??

He'd need all his christmasas coming at once to get Lubo across the net in a slam final

 

[Fedex]

You watched the match no doubt. Murray lived and breathed the crowd's every emotional reaction to a good and bad shot. Watching Murray you'd think he was playing the final. When a player needs to react like that you just know the he's not rising above the situation and staying on a even keel emotionally, he will not make the final.

Yes, agree with this. React like this if you're coming back from one or two sets down or in the semi or final.

Well if he HAD been playing the final,he would have won wouldn't he??

Like you're positive attitude Mainad.
Really hope you're right but my heads telling me something else.

 

[Oceansize]

Quite possibly.But I haven't noticed them saying it about too many others.They will often point out so-and-so's potential to win a Slam but,just out of interest,who else among the current crop have they described as being too good not to win one?

Well he's definitely a contender, so i think it makes sense for them to heap the pressure on him by saying this. However, i think too good not to win one, is going a bit far, and i still doubt they really believe this. But i suppose Murray can take it as a complement that they feel the need to put more pressure on him, as you rightly say they're not saying this about any of the other slamless guys.

 

[Boricua]

Watching Murray against Lubicic this evening is the final straw for me.
I now believe Murray will never win Wimbledon due to a combination of factors:

History - the pressure is massve for a British player. No winners in 75 years! Huge expectations and Murray just can't control his emotions here, gets too excited. Needs more composure and control.
Mentality - Murray is better but still self destructive. That personality trait is ingrained and just won't go away, ever.
Competition - Djokovic, Federer and Nadal - 3 of the greatest players to play the game in front of him. How can he overcome that? Yes he's done it before but not under these conditions and with them all on the top of their games.

Murray has the talent absolutely no doubt but mentality is king here.

This year, I think he'll beat Lubicic but next he has Gasquet, that's really tough, then he has Nadal followed by Federer or Djokovic.
That's just not going to happen.
And it'll be the same thing next year and the next.
Federer's not going anywhere soon, contrary to popular belief. That's a problem in itself, never mind the others.

Cast this thread back up if I'm wrong. Make me eat my words.
I'd be glad if you did but it's not going to happen.

Murray was truly born to make people angry. Including his fans.

I think thatt if he has the talent, all the other factors are secondary. He could win Wimbledon anytime,including this year. If he has his best game in key moments of the match he can win it. He is not the favorite of course, but he has a legitimate chance.

 

[Oceansize]

You watched the match no doubt. Murray lived and breathed the crowd's every emotional reaction to a good and bad shot. Watching Murray you'd think he was playing the final. When a player needs to react like that you just know the he's not rising above the situation and staying on a even keel emotionally, he will not make the final.

In a way i feel sorry for Murray, as the pressure on him during Wimbledon, is unlike the pressure on any other player in any other tournament. You can see on TV how anxious and desperate the crowd are, and it must be hard for him not to be affected. I remember Tursunov said after beating Henman, that there is so much pressure on Henman and he didn't envy him playing with that pressure for so many years. Unfortunately us Brits are desperate for male Wimbledon champ, and the pressure on Murray during Wimbledon is massive.

 

[Fedex]

Here's what McEnroe thinks:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...-pals-act-and-toughen-up-says-john-mcenroe.do

 

[sarmpas]

In a way i feel sorry for Murray, as the pressure on him during Wimbledon, is unlike the pressure on any other player in any other tournament. You can see on TV how anxious and desperate the crowd are, and it must be hard for him not to be affected. I remember Tursunov said after beating Henman, that there is so much pressure on Henman and he didn't envy him playing with that pressure for so many years. Unfortunately us Brits are desperate for male Wimbledon champ, and the pressure on Murray during Wimbledon is massive.

I'm a brit too and know exactly what you mean about the pressure, the newspapers go overboard about the home players.

He needs to do something. Maybe see the people who mentally prepare Beth Tweedle or the other olympians.

 

[Oceansize]

Here's what McEnroe thinks:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...-pals-act-and-toughen-up-says-john-mcenroe.do

McEnroe is spot on about Murray not understanding the mind games aspect of things. He'll often talk up his chances like saying he could beat Nadal in the French, and he just needed to play his best tennis. He should be taking the pressure off himself and deflecting it towards his opponent.

Another example is playing showboating though the legs half volleys. He needs to realise this is taking the **** out of his opponent, and it just fires them up and makes them play better, like how Ljubicic broke back after he did it today.

 

[Ledigs]

So true fedex. Can you imagine Sampras or Agassi yelling at their coach after a bad point ? Murray just seems quite immature on court

 

[Spider]

Murray will win Wimbledon. Someday he will. Maybe this year.

 

[FedExpress 333]

Didnt everyone at TW (except for Breakpoint: heh heh) know this already?

 

[Ross K]

... and neither will Andy Roddick.

 

[FedExpress 333]

... and neither will Andy Roddick.

Best post on this thread

 

[JAY1]

Murray is not emotionally strong enough to ever win a Slam!
He constantly acts like a 12 year old brat on court and unlike Connors and Mcenroe before him, he doesnt even have any endearing qualities.
There is no doubt he is a superbly talented player but you can see how a lack of an older male role model in his life now and in his past has contributed to him having little respect and emotional intelligence!

 

[Alzer]

I don't know if Andy will win a major or not but yesterday I was fortunate to see both Rafa and Murray play live - and I was only 4 rows back from the court to see Murray. All I can say was that Murray's tennis was by far and away the most entertaining. I know the match was obviously more exciting as it actually reached a finish. But to me, Andy's tennis AND his emotion on court is something I'd much rather see compared to Rafa's ugly style, constant baseline, spinny ball bashing... yawwwwn.

All I know is that none of the top 3 will be wanting to play Murray at ANY stage of this tournament - and if' they're worried about playing him then he must have a chance of winning Wimby.