The point that starts at 3:32 is a really aggressive, good point. Fun video to watch.
If you want to stay with the kid, you'll have to start experimenting with putting less air on your shots, flattening out your forehands esp a lot more. When you get an easy forehand as the second shot, try to really lean into the forehand, put body behind it so you can hit it harder. There was one such opportunity for you around 2:20 and you ended up hitting a rally ball.
Isn't that kid still in high school? He has a nice looking game. Smooth, natural strokes. I'm guessing you beat him many times through sheer consistency, but that era might be coming to an end.
The kid has obviously had some proper coaching and training, very nice footwork and groundstrokes, volleys.
And then look at you.
You would do well to invest in some proper lessons if you want to hang with him!
Yes the kid is a very good polished player with great mechanics, then there is me who is self taught with ugly strokes. We played two games of 21 and he beat me 21-16 and 21-17. So I am not sure but I consider that hanging with him. I would like to see you play this kid and see how well you could do.
Hey all I'm trying to do is offer some advice. If it hurts your self-taught ego, then I am really sorry. Let's move on.
Way to move! Love the defense and anticipation. Hope you're doing a lot of stretching and foam rolling!
Just stating the facts nothing to do with my ego. But I would like to see a video of you playing a guy of his caliber so you could show me how it's done. I wonder what the chances of that happening are? Lol
I am still a work-in-progress (coaching twice a week). I used to play like you until I finally got sick of playing ugly and got some coaching. Hey at least I am doing something about it.
I still play like you sometimes, but that's to do with the lack of natural talent. As they say, it takes one to know one. Watching you is like watching myself a couple of years ago.
I will be taking lessons in the summer and I am always working on my game. I didn't start playing until I was in my 40's so that has made it tougher than if I would have learned when I was younger. But even though my game is ugly it is pretty effective for a hacker.
Yes the kid is a very good polished player with great mechanics, then there is me who is self taught with ugly strokes. We played two games of 21 and he beat me 21-16 and 21-17. So I am not sure but I consider that hanging with him.
That's great! At least you're doing something about it, instead of insisting on self-help videos and books. Tennis doesn't work that way.
There is no doubt your game is pretty effective, but that's the only thing pretty about it. LOL. OK OK I'll stop. IMO, it is better to lose prettily than to lose ugly. Doesn't everybody want to look good? Even when losing? I know I do! Face it, you (and I) won't be able to beat a kid of that calibre anyway so at least look good while losing.
Good luck with your upcoming lessons!
That's actually pretty good considering his youth and edge in stroke mechanics. How were you able to hang tough? You left out all the points where you blasted winners, followed by triumphant fist pumps.
Way to move! Love the defense and anticipation. Hope you're doing a lot of stretching and foam rolling!
Nice video - other player looks excellent. You did well hanging in there, he still had to produce quality winners against you. Has your consistency improved the last couple of months?
Yes the kid is a very good polished player with great mechanics, then there is me who is self taught with ugly strokes. We played two games of 21 and he beat me 21-16 and 21-17. So I am not sure but I consider that hanging with him.
I have been beating him for the last few years but he is now passing me up. He trains twice a day most of the time and has really improved. Which I am glad to see him get better than I am and I hope he keeps improving. But I would like to see you play this kid and see how well you could do.
You're playing his game - defensive shots which he pounds to the corner which wears you out.
I am not playing his game I am doing the best I can to stay in the point.
There is hanging with someone then there is just trying to survive. That looked more like just trying to survive. You were 7 feet behind the baseline hitting lobs and slices 90% of the time while he executed his plan and moved you around. He made too many mistakes which he will continue to make less of as he improves.
We all know defensive pusher tennis can be successful and keep scores reasonable. But to truly hang with him, you need a few more weapons.
Of course he'd blow me off the court because a) I don't play consistent pusher tennis and b) I don't have this kids quality of strokes. But I'd enjoy hitting with him as I love returning pace with pace..
I've seen you hit topspin forehands and you can put some pressure with those shots but you were hitting a lot of chop forehands and he was just nailing those.
If you've read the OP's posts around these parts it's pretty obvious he's not open to any sort of criticism. He gets extremely defensive whenever someone points out anything wrong.Hey all I'm trying to do is offer some advice. If it hurts your self-taught ego, then I am really sorry. Let's move on.
Yes your right, but his ball speed has increased. But on some of those shots I could have hit topspin but I was not sure if I had enough time so I hit slice forehands.
I can play him better outside where my topspin shots kick up much higher and his shots are not as fast as indoors.
You just don't have enough pace on your balls to challenge him. Because you don't hit through the ball he's basically waiting to tee off on each ball. Granted he's getting much better, but your non pressure style facilitates his. Until you can increase your pace you will be doing a lot of running.Yes your right, but his ball speed has increased. But on some of those shots I could have hit topspin but I was not sure if I had enough time so I hit slice forehands.
I can play him better outside where my topspin shots kick up much higher and his shots are not as fast as indoors.
I sometimes play against people that hit harder than what I'm used to hitting against and I have to make an adjustment when that happens. I shorten my backswing and stroke using the incoming power to add pace to the outgoing shot. I usually don't have to use much of a stroke to hit the ball back with decent pace and spin. It usually doesn't take as much effort than it would in taking a bigger cut.
So you should be able to adjust to his ball speed.
You just don't have enough pace on your balls to challenge him. Because you don't hit through the ball he's basically waiting to tee off on each ball. Granted he's getting much better, but your non pressure style facilitates his. Until you can increase your pace you will be doing a lot of running.
That being said kudos on your defence and fitness. Since you said the scores were pretty close he's probably still erratic, but practicing with you will make him a better player.
If you've read the OP's posts around these parts it's pretty obvious he's not open to any sort of criticism. He gets extremely defensive whenever someone points out anything wrong.
Just watch this video of him from 2012:
There are no appreciable changes in his strokes from then. Perfection can't be improved upon, so why bother?
I disagree that is just that. As long as your swing path remains as vertical as it is, due to late hitting and lack of body use in the swing, you power potential will be limited,I need to be able to increase set up time and prep so I can make an attempt at hitting my shots harder.
I disagree that is just that. As long as your swing path remains as vertical as it is, due to late hitting and lack of body use in the swing, you power potential will be limited,
I can hit more aggressively against most players but he is taking my time away and rushing me more than I am used to.
I'm sure you would like to return pace against pace but the first problem is getting in the right spot with enough time to set up and take a good cut.
That's why i'd like to hit with him and not play a match. He'd kill me in a game. But if we are just rallying to the middle, there is time to set up and swing.
I agree that the only way to keep the score reasonable was to play consistent defensive tennis if you can't hit shot for shot. But there were times you could have been a bit more aggressive but stuck with what was keeping you in the match and hoping he'd make an error. But the game was always on his racket. I think if nothing is on the line, I'd would have taken those chances. I'd rather walk away from a match losing big but hitting some nice penetrating winners or forcing shots than losing a close match where I lobbed and chop-shotted my way around.
It's like golf. Breaking 80 is nice but I'd rather do it with great long drives and precise iron shots than by getting on a roll with the putter/chipping game.
Oftentimes, adding pace, lowering the ball height, and going for more in your shots will just awaken the monster on the other side of the net, by playing into HIS favored game.
But you should try it for several games, to see if it works, or if it plays into his preferences. For sure, you know your current game is taking points from him, taking games, but not quite enough to win against him.
Oftentimes, adding pace, lowering the ball height, and going for more in your shots will just awaken the monster on the other side of the net, by playing into HIS favored game.
But you should try it for several games, to see if it works, or if it plays into his preferences. For sure, you know your current game is taking points from him, taking games, but not quite enough to win against him.
You are 30 feet behind the baseline even when you hit a good shot. I realize why you are doing it. But may be you should stay a little closer to the baseline? Otherwise, you are letting the kid dictate all the time.
I always play deep behind the baseline.
I always play deep behind the baseline.