Pro's (Past and Present) That Have Swung a Wilson 6.1 [Includes major winners]
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Thanks for posting the great collection of champions that have used one of the greatest frames of all time.
There is a good number of upcoming young guys using it as well.Cann't believe Wilson has killed this model that has so much success across wide variety of players.They probably should have released this model in 95 as well as 100 if they want to cater to modern era where everyone is looking for a bigger head size.
There is a good number of upcoming young guys using it as well.Cann't believe Wilson has killed this model that has so much success across wide variety of players.They probably should have released this model in 95 as well as 100 if they want to cater to modern era where everyone is looking for a bigger head size.
Capulin Zurdo
Hall of Fame
It's a great list of players. Good work of you! Thank you for this thread. This racquet is one of my favourites.The definitive list (thanks for the help @Arti & @vsbabolat ):
Mats Wilander: 16x18
Juan Martin Del Potro: 18x20 - 2009 US Open Singles
Daniel Nestor: 16x18
2002 Aussie Open
07/10/11/12 French Open
2008/2009 Wimbledon
2004 US Open
Mahesh Bhupathi: 16x18 - 99/01 French Open - 1999 Wimbledon - 2002 Us Open
Jonas Bjorkman: 16x18
98/99/01 Aussie Open Doubles
05/06 French Open Doubles
02/03/04 Wimbledon Doubles
2003 US Open Doubles
Max Mirnyi: 16x18 - 05/06/11/12 French Open Doubles - 00/02 US Open Doubles
Gaston Gaudio: 18x20 - 2005 French Open Singles
Simon Aspelin: 16x18 - 2007 US Open
Bruno Soares: 16x18 - 2016 Australian Open
Richard Krajicek: ?
Robert Lindstedt: 16x18 - 2014 US Open Doubles
Vasek Pospisil: 18x20 - 2014 Wimbledon Doubles
Horia Tecau: 18x20 - 2015 Wimbledon Doubles
Jarkko Nieminen: 16x18
Todd Martin: 16x18 (Post-retirement)
Brad Gilbert: 16x18 (Post-retirement)
Tim Henmen: (NO PWS)
Greg Rusedski: (NO PWS)
Mardy Fish: 18x20
Dominic Thiem: 18x20
Aaron KrickStein: 16x18
Jared Palmer: 16x18
Philip Kohlschriber: 16x18
Leonardo Mayer: 18x20
Roberto Bautista Agut: 18x20
Stephane Robert: 18x20 (Only hyper pro staff through 2010)
Steve Darcis: 18x20
Thomaz Bellucci: 18x20
Kyle Edmund: 18x20
Gabashvili: 18x20
Lukas Rosol: 18x20
Dusan Lajovic: 18x20
Denis Shapovalov: 18x20
Dan Evans: 18x20
Robert Kendrick: 18x20
Chase Buchanan: 18x20
Igor Sijsling: 18x20
Jesse Levine: 18x20
VLOGMAN 18x16 (@TW Staff)
Singles majors won: 2
Doubles majors won: 18
Great pictures and info from you!
Yes, wanted to get this anniversary stick but price stopped me.
Yes, because it is (like PT57) very good racquet and players who tried it stayed with it for long period. That's why so many paintjobs happen.
RanchDressing
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The PSC 6.1 is like the leonidas of stock racquets. I mean, the new 97 is basically that racquet just a little bit different in weight distribution. A few tweaks on the retail rf97a in design to make the weight more like the 6.1 and I bet it would be a lot more popular.
I've never met someone who used this 6.1 stick who didn't crush it from the baseline.
They should bring this stick back, it's seriously one of the best racquets I've ever tried, and probably ever available (at least out of the box).
Minion
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I wish you hadn't said all that.....wife is going to kill me....
RanchDressing
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Invest in a cup, maybe a bullet proof vest.
No but you could probably get pretty close with some modification on another stick. The string pattern in the 97 to me doesn't feel too different in the sweet spot. I hit with a 6.1 again not too long ago, and it was sweet. Had a hybrid in it, and it reminded me a lot of what I like about the 97 with a hybrid in it. The string pattern just works really well for me.
moon shot
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Agreed, the Wilson 97, or possibly a Yonex G, is about as close as you'll get.
The following is a bit pedantic, but I find minutia interesting:
Here are several Wilson frames ordered as they were released. The last two are out of order, I put the 6.1 Classic and 6.0 Original to put the Classic beside the RF97. I threw in Hyper Maureen G. Connolly just for fun.
- The 90 (3) updated the 85 (2), adding one more cross and evening out density changes.
- The 97 (4) very much follows the proportional spacing of the 90.
- The 97 (4) compared to the 6.1 Classic (5) is both more open in the center 10x12 and more closed outside those.
- The 6.1 Classic (5) compared to the 6.0 original (6) kept a very similar spacing across the center 10x12, outside those the Classic opened up to fill the frame.
The 16x18 vs 18x20 Classic are somewhat similar density in the center, more that I would expect. The 5 first and last crosses, are where most the variation lies.
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Do you use 16x18 or 18x20?
macattack
Professional
x100000 Been using the PSC 6.1 since the mid-90s. Though lately I've been pulling out the OG Prestige Pro more often, there is always a 6.1 nearby and I usually end up going back to it.
RanchDressing
Hall of Fame
I deleted the images to make my reply a bit smaller but yeah those yonex sticks are almost identical in head size and main distribution. My vcore tour 97's have almost the exact same main spacing. The only difference being the extra cross and tighter cross spacing. I do play more naturally with the 16x19 though so that's why I think I'm going to switch.
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RanchDressing
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I use 16x19! I like the 16x18 too. They're both pretty similar
RanchDressing
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Oh no I'm just using a "97" well something based off the wilson ps 97, not the actual 6.1
gino
Legend
Agreed, the Wilson 97, or possibly a Yonex G, is about as close as you'll get.
The following is a bit pedantic, but I find minutia interesting:
Here are several Wilson frames ordered as they were released. The last two are out of order, I put the 6.1 Classic and 6.0 Original to put the Classic beside the RF97. I threw in Hyper Maureen G. Connolly just for fun.
- The 90 (3) updated the 85 (2), adding one more cross and evening out density changes.
- The 97 (4) very much follows the proportional spacing of the 90.
- The 97 (4) compared to the 6.1 Classic (5) is both more open in the center 10x12 and more closed outside those.
- The 6.1 Classic (5) compared to the 6.0 original (6) kept a very similar spacing across the center 10x12, outside those the Classic opened up to fill the frame.
The 16x18 vs 18x20 Classic are somewhat similar density in the center, more that I would expect. The 5 first and last crosses, are where most the variation lies.
This is one of the most epic posts I've ever seen on TT. Well done, @moon shot these comparison photos are stunning. Some of the similarities/dissimilarities within the string patterns are really indicative of the nature of each stringbed. The 97 being more control-oriented on the outsides of the frame, while the PS85/90 are very dense in the middle of the stringbed allowing for more a control-oriented response there as wel. Really appreciate you taking the time to lay out all of these frames and crop them all together like that. For a Wilson-fanatic like myself, this is bliss. I loved seeing the 85/90 next to each other, so identical, but yet dissimilar. Keep up the good work, mate
gino
Legend
Always gotta have one in the bag, 100%
So, you play RF 97?
moon shot
Hall of Fame
Yeah, the base64 encoding in quotes get really annoying when you need to edit something. I'll cook up another grouping of 95 and 97.
I do have a tendency to dive deep. I've been comparing string patterns in photos like this for a bit, yesterday I realized I happened to have that whole line together. - here is an album of such stuff - http://imgur.com/a/kjSS3
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macattack
Professional
He plays a modded PS97, but it's a knockoff version I believe that he got at a very light weight.
RanchDressing
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Cool thats awesome as an album. I just stick the frames on top of each other lmao. Using a ruler is way more consistant
moon shot
Hall of Fame
The first geological surveyor would have his wife stand next to stuff for scale, he later developed that stick they hold when surveying. I have to say I wasn't that bright, I put it there so Lightroom could align the photos consistently.
Seth
Legend
Here's a really cool pic the Bryans posted on Twitter:
Both are using 6.1 Classic Stretch (note the red "shoulders") frames. If stock, they're 28" and 18x20. The Bryan Bros have been known to experiment with different specs and lengths in frames. Pretty neat to see they were using extended frames even back in college.
Both are using 6.1 Classic Stretch (note the red "shoulders") frames. If stock, they're 28" and 18x20. The Bryan Bros have been known to experiment with different specs and lengths in frames. Pretty neat to see they were using extended frames even back in college.
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Plus, during their time with Wilson, they used the Hyper Pro Staff 5.0 Stretch with the 18X19 pattern.Here's a really cool pic the Bryans posted on Twitter:
Both are using 6.1 Classic Stretch (note the red "shoulders") frames. If stock, they're 28" and 18x20. The Bryan Bros have been known to experiment with different specs and lengths in frames. Pretty need to see they were using extended frames even back in college.
I met them at Paris Indoor BNP Parbas, they're the most nice persons among pros i've ever metHere's a reallyperson pic the Bryans posted on Twitter:
Both are using 6.1 Classic Stretch (note the red "shoulders") frames. If stock, they're 28" and 18x20. The Bryan Bros have been known to experiment with different specs and lengths in frames. Pretty need to see they were using extended frames even back in college.
gino
Legend
Here's a really cool pic the Bryans posted on Twitter:
Both are using 6.1 Classic Stretch (note the red "shoulders") frames. If stock, they're 28" and 18x20. The Bryan Bros have been known to experiment with different specs and lengths in frames. Pretty need to see they were using extended frames even back in college.
Thanks @Seth This is really awesome, dude. That's an insane length at 28". It must have been a truck to maneuver. Love the Standford Nike kits, here's another photo I found:
gino
Legend
Thanks @Steve F. .. feel free to add let me know if there's another you can think of. It's insane the volume of modern ATP Pros that use a 6.1 mould under their current gimmicky paint job. These pros prefer a control-oriented player's frame with a classic feel and formula that works! Wilson needs to do justice to tennis and the player's frame niche market and bring back the 6.1 for good. It's a stalwart for Wilson. Bring the 6.1 back! @Wilson Official
I like this thread. I never knew about this racquet. I only heard about the H19 and H22, but this one seems like the big daddy
yes it is, going by the number of pros using it also one should include Roger,Pete and other champions as well even though they have used 85-90 inch instead of a 95.
Not sure why Wilson cann't release the Wilson classic 6.1.95 18*20 in US when they can do it in Europe.
moon shot
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When the OP says Wilson 6.1 (I'm guessing) that is shorthand for the 6.1 Classic 95 which was originally in 16x18, 18x20, and stretch versions - and all the later versions which descended from and used the same mold. Not necessarily every frame that says Six.One on it.
Last I heard TW still expects to sell the anniversary in the states. - http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...25th-anniversary-edition.546826/#post-9824124
Seth
Legend
Yes, 6.1 Classic and its descendants. The 6.0 85, 6.0 95, and Tour 90 are all great frames, but not part of the 6.1 family.
Before anyone jumps on my case, I know everything descended from the 6.0 85 and that makes them "family" but this thread's purpose is to celebrate and educate newer tennis fans about the 6.1 line.
One bit that bears mentioning is that the 6.1 Classic did veer from its 95 headsize when Wilson created the 6.1 Classic Oversize. It had a 110" head.
There was also a Hyper ProStaff 6.1 Stretch Oversize. 27.5" in length and 106" headsize. This one even had a crossbar a la the POG.
Thanks for the update.Waiting for US release and hope Wilson realizes that why tinker a classic model with so much success and still being used by juniors in different PJ.
Lot of people like the RF97 and I have tried it many times and unfortunately it doesn't swing as easy as Wilson 6.1 despite being the same weight due to its high Twistweight even though I prefer the 97 head size.
For me nothing comes close to Wilson Prostaff for hitting big and penetrating forehands.
I wish Denis Shapovalov and other youngsters that are using this frame would break out soon.
gino
Legend
I'd like to echo a lot of what @Seth is saying here. Yes this thread is intended to celebrate the 6.1 95 Classic, but also all of the various descendants of the PSC 6.1. For instance, Stephane Robert used the Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 which was essentially the same mould, with slightly different composition. There's no surefire way of knowing who plays with what mould anymore. We are too far down the paintjob rabbithole
gino
Legend
Pretty much, guys like Chase Buchanan and Domi Thiem used much later interations of the 6.1 line, something that I think is cool about this thread is that is celebrates the whole 6.1 linage, and players who used it at various times during their career. Not just the 6.1 junkies like Bjorkman, Nestor, Del Po, etc.
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