Rafael Nadal passes Andre Agassi for 3rd-most Grand Slam match wins on hard court (128)- Only Federer and Djokovic have more.
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tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
A lot more.
MichaelNadal
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Rey
Subway Tennis
Legend
3rd all-time amongst the men for match wins in HC majors. Not too bad for a guy who's supposed to be a mug off clay.
BladeDaywalker
Rookie
Except Nadal already has won more finals than Novak at the US Open and is one title away from tying Federer.
In reality, by the time it is all said and done, they will most likely only have more slams won in two out of the 4.
Also, Nadal is 3-1 at the Australian Open against Federer which is an important criteria even if Federer is better overall against the field at the Australian Open.
irishnadalfan1983
Hall of Fame
Nadal has more US Opens that Nole....Grass is pretty insignificant really - 1 real tournament a year.....
ONLY JOKING - do you guys ever stop?!!!
Sport
G.O.A.T.
The most significant comparison is the number of Slams titles, not the number of match victories. Nadal has won more US Open titles than Djokovic and leads the H2H over him there.
Player A:
In 8 participations at the USO, he has lost always in the QF.
Player B:
In 8 participaions at the USO, he has won 2 US Open titles, but has lost in six of his participations in the 4R.
Player B has a better USO resume despite having won less USO matches. Number of USO titles > number of USO match victories.
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Lew II
G.O.A.T.
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@irishnadalfan1983
@BladeDaywalker
Nadal is distant third of his era on 2 surfaces out of 3 and in domination of the full season.
To me this matters. You're free to disagree.
@irishnadalfan1983
@BladeDaywalker
Nadal is distant third of his era on 2 surfaces out of 3 and in domination of the full season.
To me this matters. You're free to disagree.
Breakpointerer
Legend
Yeah, but how many of them were over Berrettini? /s
Jokes aside, amazing achievement. Should prove that he's much more than a one dimensional clay courter( even though his titles should have put that to bed already)..
Jokes aside, amazing achievement. Should prove that he's much more than a one dimensional clay courter( even though his titles should have put that to bed already)..
Incognito
Legend
yet Nadal is the only one to win at least two majors on every surface.
Poisoned Slice
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Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
If I had a penny for how many times people forgot Mats Wilander in this stat, I’d be retired already by now.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
It's not that important. In matches that lead to titles, they are 1-1 at the AO. And 6 to 1 is way too big of a deficit to overcome. Federer is better from every point of view at the AO.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Mats Wilander.
Lew II
G.O.A.T.
Djokovic and Federer dominated two surfaces though, including the most important which is hardcourt.
Nadal's records are all clay related, there's no way around it. He's certainly one of the greatest but it takes more to be the undisputed GOAT.
Martin J
Hall of Fame
She was probably referring to the BIG 3 group only. It's hard to believe that a tennis fan from Sweden could forget Wilander when it comes to this stats.
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
Novak Djokovic certainly isn’t undisputed GOAT. That’s for sure.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Nadal is the 3rd best HC player nobody can denied that even @vive le beau jeu !
Incognito
Legend
i’m aware of that. Lew is talking about Nadal, Federer and djokovic.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
I can and I do
Yugram
Legend
Not from the H2H point of view.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
I can and I do
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
ah ok, just clumsy wording by you then.
Lew II
G.O.A.T.
Neither is Federer.
ghostofMecir
Legend
It’s pretty crazy that Federer has 140 straight-set hardcourt slam match wins.
Total slam wins on hardcourt:
Djokovic, 143 (91 straight sets)
Nadal, 128 (89 straight sets)
Agassi, 127 (81 straight sets)
Sampras, 116 (69 straight sets)
Lendl, 105 (77 straight sets)
Pheasant
Legend
1988 was the first year that the AO was played on grass. This gives the oldest players a massive handicap.
From 1982-1991, Lendl didn't miss a single hard court event that was held. In those 14 hard court slam events, Lendl made it to 11 finals and 13 semis while bagging 5 slam titles.
From 1982-1991, Lendl didn't miss a single hard court event that was held. In those 14 hard court slam events, Lendl made it to 11 finals and 13 semis while bagging 5 slam titles.
Yeah, I’d still rate Sampras, Lendl, and Agassi above Nadal on hard, but it’s a nice achievement to be behind only the two hard court GOATs.
Also Agassi skipped the Australian until 1995 when he was 25 years old. Then he went on to win 4 of the 9 editions he played. That surface was tailor-made for his game. Probably would have racked up quite a few more hard court slam match wins (and possibly a couple more titles as well) had he played the Australian from the time he started playing the other slams. Really shot himself in the foot not playing it for so long.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Rafa is breaking records every month these days!
Boom-Boom
Legend
Nadal is 2d / 3d Tier in history precisely because of that ... and the 0 WTF of course
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
Because you said the word "undisputed", I agree with you. No one is the undisputed GOAT of tennis.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Actually quite impressive from Rafa. Think of the slams he's missed and Djokovic's consistency and he's still only 15 behind and almost even in straight set wins.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
ghostofMecir
Legend
140....straight set wins on HC at slam level....
For perspective, the following players are the only ones who have won more slam matches OVERALL than Federer has won straight set matches on hardcourt.
Additionally, Federer has won more slam matches in straight sets (263) than any other player in the Open Era has won slam matches overall other than Djokovic and Nadal.
Total slam matches won:
Djokovic (283)
Nadal (274)
Federer’s (263) straight set slam matches won
Connors (233–with AO and RG played like today’s players, this number would be almost surely be over 300)
Agassi (224)
Lendl (222)
Sampras (203)
Murray (189)
Edberg (178)
McEnroe (167)
Becker (163)
Hewitt (148)
Berdych (146)
Ferrer (145)
Wilander (144)
Wawrinka (144)
Borg (141)
Federer’s straight sets wins on hardcourt (140)
Simply ridiculous.
Subway Tennis
Legend
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Very nice achievement for someone who is fundamentally a clay courter
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Deep down he knows that I spoke the truth
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
Hitman
Bionic Poster
LOL - That is just a joke. I seriously didn't know about these numbers.
I Am Finnish
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#ABTN
The_Order
G.O.A.T.
Pretty sure that comment was in comparison to Novak and Roger.
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