Rank the ethnic Russians

[Swingmaster]

Mine:
1. Rublev
2. Medvedev
3. Tsitsipas
4. Zverev
5. Shapo
6. Khachanov

Not much separating them, but seems like Karen is starting to fade a bit. Anyone out there believe in the Khachmeister?
Full disclosure: just watched Rublev win a match.

 

[USO]

Mine:
1. Rublev
2. Medvedev
3. Tsitsipas
4. Zverev
5. Shapo
6. Khachanov

Not much separating them, but seems like Karen is starting to fade a bit. Anyone out there believe in the Khachmeister?
Full disclosure: just watched Rublev win a match.

Isn’t city bus Greek?

 

[Matthew Lee]

Would not rank Rublev first as much as like him. Imo he goes below Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Zverev.
1. Medvedev
2. Zverev
3. Tsitsipas
4. Rublev
5. Shapovalov
6. Khachanov

 

[Matthew Lee]

Isn’t city bus Greek?

His mother is Russian

 

[aditya123]

Djokovic is a Ussr member as well

 

[MeatTornado]

seems like Karen is starting to fade a bit. Anyone out there believe in the Khachmeister?

Hard to fade when you were never really there to begin with. Take away one random good week from 2+ years ago, culminating in a win against a sick Novak and he has nothing on his resume. Technically speaking, his game always looked the worst of that group, so he was going to have to work extra hard just to keep up with the pack, let alone do anything notable.

He seems like a lower ceiling Shapo to me, because he doesn't even really have the ability to blow an opponent away when things are clicking.

 

[BackhandRF]

Djokovic is a Ussr member as well

 

[BackhandRF]

Hard to fade when you were never really there to begin with. Take away one random good week from 2+ years ago, culminating in a win against a sick Novak and he has nothing on his resume. Technically speaking, his game always looked the worst of that group, so he was going to have to work extra hard just to keep up with the pack, let alone do anything notable.

He seems like a lower ceiling Shapo to me, because he doesn't even really have the ability to blow an opponent away when things are clicking.

Probably He has brute strength, but lacks racquet head speed and control. Forehand looks lame and over laboured at times, primarily due to huge takeback.
Imo he needs to develop his game like Wawrinka's, but I doubt his core strength can match that of Stan. Karen's Serve is predictable as well, and angle generation off both wings is extremely poor.

 

[Yugram]

Khachanov is not ethnic Russian. He is Armenian.

Shapovalov is half Russian, half Jewish.

Tsitsipas is Greek by father’s line and Russian-Jewish by mother’s line.

 

[MeatTornado]

Probably He has brute strength, but lacks racquet head speed and control. Forehand looks lame and over laboured at times, primarily due to huge takeback.
Imo he needs to develop his game like Wawrinka's, but I doubt his core strength can match that of Stan. Karen's Serve is predictable as well, and angle generation off both wings is extremely poor.

It's amazing to me he made it this far in his career without any coaches stopping him from hitting forehands like that.

 

[Swingmaster]

Hard to fade when you were never really there to begin with. Take away one random good week from 2+ years ago, culminating in a win against a sick Novak and he has nothing on his resume. Technically speaking, his game always looked the worst of that group, so he was going to have to work extra hard just to keep up with the pack, let alone do anything notable.

He seems like a lower ceiling Shapo to me, because he doesn't even really have the ability to blow an opponent away when things are clicking.

I agree, but for about a half a year people were predicting big things for the guy. Seemed like a top ten caliber dude at least.

 

[BackhandRF]

It's amazing to me he made it this far in his career without any coaches stopping him from hitting forehands like that.

Francis Tiafoe wants to drop a 'Hi' as well.
(Probably the most frustrating player to watch, totally wasting his potential)

 

[MeatTornado]

Francis Tiafoe wants to drop a 'Hi' as well.
(Probably the most frustrating player to watch, totally wasting his potential)

idk what kind of potential we could realistically say he has.

he could certainly be doing better, but I never saw him as capable of being a serious contender on tour.

 

[BackhandRF]

idk what kind of potential we could realistically say he has.

he could certainly be doing better, but I never saw him as capable of being a serious contender on tour.

Hitting abd serving bbigger and better

 

[beltsman]

Francis Tiafoe wants to drop a 'Hi' as well.
(Probably the most frustrating player to watch, totally wasting his potential)

Why would he have potential though, really?

 

[RaulRamirez]

Still in flux for me.
When all's said and done, I'm guessing:
Tsit
Zverev
Med
Shapo
Rublev
Khach

 

[Andy Murray Is Goat]

It's amazing to me he made it this far in his career without any coaches stopping him from hitting forehands like that.

If it ain’t broke never fix it

I learnt that the hard way

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Khachanov is not ethnic Russian. He is Armenian.

Shapovalov is half Russian, half Jewish.

Tsitsipas is Greek by father’s line and Russian-Jewish by mother’s line.

Khachanov's mother is Russian.

Tsitsipas' mother's maiden name was Salnikova. Salnikov being an ordinary Russian name. And I can't find anything about her being Jewish.

Here is Tsitsi's maternal grandfather:

Sergei Salnikov - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Salnikov - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

edit: Maternal grandmother's last name was Zawadzkie. I actually know someone (a Ukrainian) with this last name and it is absolutely not Jewish. She could possibly have Polish roots (the website I read may have merely given a Polish transliteration), but she was from eastern Ukraine.

 

[King No1e]

It's amazing to me he made it this far in his career without any coaches stopping him from hitting forehands like that.

Maybe he had the same coaches as Paire and Gasquet

 

[BeatlesFan]

The only Russian worth discussing is this one. More talent than the current Russians all put together.

 

[zipplock]

1. Med
2. The rest of them ...

 

[BackhandRF]

Khachanov is not ethnic Russian. He is Armenian.

Shapovalov is half Russian, half Jewish.

Tsitsipas is Greek by father’s line and Russian-Jewish by mother’s line.

Thanks, TTW Wikipedia.

 

[Keizer]

The only Russian worth discussing is this one. More talent than the current Russians all put together.

Forget Marat, old Davydenko would give several of these young bucks a run for their money.

 

[James P]

1. Medvedev
2. Zverev
3. Tsitsipas
4. Rublev
5. Khachanov
6. Shapovalov

 

[octobrina10]

An interesting fact: Tsitsi's mother (Julia Apostoli nee Salnikova) played tennis with Alex Zverev's mother (Irina Zvereva) and Denis Shapovalov's mother (now: Tessa Shapovalova), when they were active players.

Julia Apostoli - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Irina Zvereva - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wikipedia: "Her [Irina Zvereva] last runner-up came against Julia Apostoli, a fellow Soviet emigrant as well as the mother of Stefanos Tsitsipas, a rival of her son Alexander Zverev."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/952831108755976192

 

[octobrina10]

The only Russian worth discussing is this one. More talent than the current Russians all put together.

Speaking of ethnic roots, Safin was born in Moscow to Tatar parents. Wikipedia: "The Republic of Tatarstan is a federal subject (a republic) of the Russian Federation."

 

[beard]

Khachanov is not ethnic Russian. He is Armenian.

Shapovalov is half Russian, half Jewish.

Tsitsipas is Greek by father’s line and Russian-Jewish by mother’s line.

Tsi is 1/4 Russian, but in his look Russian genes are dominant, Greeks and Jewish aren't blonde... Except his Greek nose... Lol...

 

[beard]

The only Russian worth discussing is this one. More talent than the current Russians all put together.

No, at least 2 of Russians from op will win more compared to Said...

 

[Wander]

1. Med 2. Rub 3. Tsi is my ranking.

 

[skaj]

Djokovic is a Ussr member as well

Born in Yugoslavia which was not even a part of the Warsaw Pact, much less the USSR. His ethnic background that I know of: Serbian, Croatian, Montenegrin.

 

[aditya123]

Born in Yugoslavia which was not even a part of the Warsaw Pact, much less the USSR. His ethnic background that I know of: Serbian, Croatian, Montenegrin.

I don't have deep knowledge abt it. Pardon thou ignorant

 

[Sport]

1. Medvedev
2. Zverev
3. Tsitsipas
4. Rublev
5. Khachanov
6. Shapovalov

This. But change Shapo for Khachanov.

 

[Swingmaster]

The only Russian worth discussing is this one. More talent than the current Russians all put together.

There’s always a disproportionate amount of love for Safin on this board. I guess because he looked like a supermodel.

 

[Slowtwitcher]

There’s always a disproportionate amount of love for Safin on this board. I guess because he looked like a supermodel.

If his parents are Tatar, he's definitely not "ethnic Russian."

 

[NoleIsBoat]

1. Zverev 2. Medvedev 3. Rublev

Tsisipas BH sucks. Too loopy and unreliable.

 

[alexio]

Forget Marat, old Davydenko would give several of these young bucks a run for their money.

both are not ethnic russians though (following thread' title) ..maratos is tatar while nikolakha is ukrainian (khokhol) but with russian passport

 

[BeatlesFan]

There’s always a disproportionate amount of love for Safin on this board. I guess because he looked like a supermodel.

Considering only 15% of posters here are female (and a few gay men) I doubt it. Sure, he was gorgeous, but his game was similarly gorgeous when he was on. He also had a charisma on court than every current player lacks aside from Roger or Rafa. He was fascinating to watch, on and off the court.

 

[Swingmaster]

Considering only 15% of posters here are female (and a few gay men) I doubt it. Sure, he was gorgeous, but his game was similarly gorgeous when he was on. He also had a charisma on court than every current player lacks aside from Roger or Rafa. He was fascinating to watch, on and off the court.

True, it’s the whole package. Someone mentioned Davydenko up there. That guy would get more love if he didn’t look like a hairless cat. Wonder if he ever hung out with Safin. Seemed like opposites.