Cesc Fabregas
Legend
2nd most talented player on tour that left me in stiches
he is a good player top 20 maybe 10 if he maxes out his talent hes nothing more lets no go overboard.
Richard Gasquet, most overrated player in the game?
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2nd most talented player on tour that left me in stiches
he is a good player top 20 maybe 10 if he maxes out his talent hes nothing more lets no go overboard.
thejoe
Hall of Fame
2nd most talented player on tour that left me in stiches
He has raw shot-making ability, which for me, is a greater display of talent than someone who grinds for hours.
grafselesfan
Banned
The simple fact you even say with Safin and Nalbandian having more talent vs Gasquet is merely "arguable" already tells me you grossly overrate Gasquet and his talent level for the modern game. There is absolutely no comparision in Gasquet's talent level to Safin and Nalbandian. Those two can take out a great player on any given day on any surface on sheer talent alone. Gasquet cant do this, not even close. Even on the days his full talent is on display he isnt half as scary as those two can be.
tacou
G.O.A.T.
now we're just getting objective. saying safin can beat any player on any given day is the same as citing Gasquet's win over Fed as anything relevant. Safin hasn't done anything outside of Wimbledon in years, and his only big win that tournament was over a very out of form Novak.
don't get me wrong, I think Safin has immense talent, probably one of the best to play the game on talent alone, but he utilizes that talent even less than Gasquet.
but again, I'm merely focusing on the OP (even though it is 2+ years old) by stating that Gasquet is not overrated. the only thing you seem to be arguing is his level of "natural talent", which there is concrete definition for, so why not just let this thread slip back into obscurity?
julesb
Banned
I agree. Gasquet the 2nd most talented player in the game is one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard, almost as bad as the people who think knife #1 big nosed Graf is really the best ever.
6rump
Rookie
confuse between beauty and talent? i don't think so, now Where in the world does the beauty come from? Talent? yes of course! if you got no talent hard to play beauty shot, unless you really work so hard!! for talented player you don't need much effort coz it's all just "Natural".........!!
Cesc Fabregas
Legend
Pretty convienent injury he can't handle the expectations from the French press.
batz
G.O.A.T.
I think the problem made him pull out of Miami too, but you're right - the guy has the heart of a mouse.
define talent. I think what Nadal is more talented than Gasquet. I think Rafa is surprisingly versatile and actually doesn't really have a weakness these days.
I don't think Richie is overhyped but he certainly hasn't lived up to what I think he is capable of on the senior tour.
One of the big reasons for that I think is work ethic.
His fitness has got to be crappy because he always looks really tired after 1 and a half sets. Not sure how the hell he expects to win consecutive best of 5s when he can't win best of 3.
I don't know what he practices but while his serve has improved his forehand seems to have gone backwards and his style is way more defensive than it was. He isn't a defensive player so why play 10 million miles behind the baseline.
The other big thing is mental attitude.
He used to give the big players at least a big match but I feel that he goes into certain matches now feeling like he cant win. And so in his head he has lost before the first ball is struck.
e.g. when he plays Nalbandian - look at Rafa's match recently with Nalby he would never have that attitude, he had a bloody awful match with Ferrer recently where I think he felt the same.
All of these things are fixable and his game does have a lot of potential but he is running out of time and I'm questioning how bothered he is.
Richie has been nursing that shoulder all year. It has been very painful since before the AO he had treatment on it there. I would rather he miss MC for which there is no penalty, and get it fixed like a sensible person than play all the tournies, lose early and not go to RG. Also he is only defending 150 points then he is defending nothing (well 20 points) until queens
I don't think avoiding French journo's is the reason for that decision. He missed Miami as well remember and last year when he was avoiding France, he still played MC.
grafrules
Banned
Easy to understand why when they still havent clued in to the fact the guy just isnt that good a player.
navratilovafan
Banned
Did someone actually call Gasquet the 2nd most talented player behind Federer. I must be reading wrong, it simply isnt possible someone actually said something that ridiculous.
Someone's opinion can be different than yours but it doesn't mean their opinion is ridiculous. It's how they see things and whether you like it or not, I think we need to respect their opinion.
As for Gasquet missing MC - people tends to forget that this is one of his favorite tournaments (where we saw him shine as an 18-year qualifier beating Federer in his prime in 2005). I find it hard to believe that he only skips this tourney because of pressure from the french. I would rather see him skip this tourney and heal the shoulder than worsen the injury and skip Roland Garros.
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