Serena Williams congratulates Novak Djokovic

joshuayuan

Professional


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jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Lot of parallels between the two weirdly enough.
Serena spent a lot of her later career chasing Court's record.

Djokovic won't have to do that. I reckon if he starts getting bageled by the Hurkaczes of the world, he will retire like Fed did
 

legcramp

Professional
Overrated to high heaven by a generation of "new school" tennis fans trying to spit on the old guard, piled up unspeakable numbers in trash eras, general victim mentality, very uncouth and unrefined on court behavior.

Very astute observation.
New players better than old players -Andy Roddick
 

Razer

Legend
Overrated to high heaven by a generation of "new school" tennis fans trying to spit on the old guard, piled up unspeakable numbers in trash eras, general victim mentality, very uncouth and unrefined on court behavior.

Very astute observation.
It is not like Federer piled his records in diverse conditions of 80s or 90s, he too is a product of this new school era tennis and piling numbers against trash gens in homogenized conditions.

Djokovic scored most of his slams against Federer and Nadal while Federer scored most of his slams against Roddick, Hewitt, Baggy, Davy, Ljubi
 

TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
It is not like Federer piled his records in diverse conditions of 80s or 90s, he too is a product of this new school era tennis and piling numbers against trash gens in homogenized conditions.

Djokovic scored most of his slams against Federer and Nadal while Federer scored most of his slams against Roddick, Hewitt, Baggy, Davy, Ljubi
Fed and Ljubi literally never played each other in a slam. Whoopsie-daisy.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
Yeah she "congratulated" him alright...it's like me congratulating my parents on their marriage anniversary by sending nothing, but a "wink" emoji in some text messenger...LOL More like she acknowledged his achievement and just let him know about it, that's what it looks like...it's like saying - "i see what you did there..." or something...
now Nadal and most recently Federer - that was a proper congratulations!...no matter if people think it was genuine or not...to me it seemed like it was...
 

Razer

Legend
Yeah she "congratulated" him alright...it's like me congratulating my parents on their marriage anniversary by sending nothing, but a "wink" emoji in some text messenger...LOL More like she acknowledged his achievement and just let him know about it, that's what it looks like...it's like saying - "i see what you did there..." or something...
now Nadal and most recently Federer - that was a proper congratulations!...no matter if people think it was genuine or not...to me it seemed like it was...

Will you believe me if I told you that Serena sees herself far superior to Big 3 in her mind :p .... So she doesn't feel the urge to feel so excited at Novak's 23 because she herself has 23.

She thinks she should have won 30-32 slams and she also feels a woman is burdened with biology (pregnancy) which she cannot outsource to her husband while Nole/Federer easily outsourced the job of having a kid and raising them to their wives while they focused on their careers....

So in her mind she is far superior to Big 3
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
Will you believe me if I told you that Serena sees herself far superior to Big 3 in her mind :p .... So she doesn't feel the urge to feel so excited at Novak's 23 because she herself has 23.

She thinks she should have won 30-32 slams and she also feels a woman is burdened with biology (pregnancy) which she cannot outsource to her husband while Nole/Federer easily outsourced the job of having a kid and raising them to their wives while they focused on their careers....

So in her mind she is far superior to Big 3

Yes i understand that, which is the exact reason why i said that her "congratulatory" message sounds more shady than anything...
 

Razer

Legend
Yes i understand that, which is the exact reason why i said that her "congratulatory" message sounds more shady than anything...

Yes, the congratulatory messages timing speaks for themselves.

- Nadal congratulated first, elaborately he did, this means he is down to earth and feels the occasion needs to be "acknowledged personally" in seriousness and with grace. So he did it twice, first in a tweet and then in his academy speech.

- Then came Federer, a bit late but even he thought it is important to at least say something good and to sound friendly and graceful for PR purposes. Federer used to consider himself superior many years ago but now he has toned down, been forced to eat humble pie. So he too congratulated properly.

- Then comes Serena, who just doesn't care, she is smug and she just "acknowledges it" as if she wants to say "yeah I see what you did...." ..... That tells her mindset, she considers herself above Big 3 even today.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
Yes, the congratulatory messages timing speaks for themselves.

- Nadal congratulated first, elaborately he did, this means he is down to earth and feels the occasion needs to be "acknowledged personally" in seriousness and with grace. So he did it twice, first in a tweet and then in his academy speech.

- Then came Federer, a bit late but even he thought it is important to at least say something good and to sound friendly and graceful for PR purposes. Federer used to consider himself superior many years ago but now he has toned down, been forced to eat humble pie. So he too congratulated properly.

- Then comes Serena, who just doesn't care, she is smug and she just "acknowledges it" as if she wants to say "yeah I see what you did...." ..... That tells her mindset, she considers herself above Big 3 even today.

Which makes me wonder how will she react when (i mean IF) Novak captures CYGS this year! Will she properly acknowledge it this time or it will be yet another cryptic short response like this...
 

Razer

Legend
Which makes me wonder how will she react when (i mean IF) Novak captures CYGS this year! Will she properly acknowledge it this time or it will be yet another cryptic short response like this...

She will properly congratulate Novak if Novak gets a CYGS or if he gets to 28-30 slams.
 

Razer

Legend
let's just hope so, otherwise at that point her salt will be dead obvious even for a neutral fan...

She is not salty, she is just too proud.

She sees herself as a person with 30-32 slam potential and she feels if not for pregnancy then she could have won a slam close to 40.

So in her mind she is clearly superior, it is not salt, it is some form of superiority complex :p
 

RS

Bionic Poster
Overrated to high heaven by a generation of "new school" tennis fans trying to spit on the old guard, piled up unspeakable numbers in trash eras, general victim mentality, very uncouth and unrefined on court behavior.

Very astute observation.
:censored:o_O
 

Razer

Legend
A lot of parallels indeed.

The parallels between Serena Williams and Novak Djokovic are :

- Both won 10+ slams in 20s and in 30s
- Both have shown anger issues on court
- Both have conquered all their rivals, strong rivals, weak rivals all combined
- Both have fought crowd at different times in their careers
- Both have first faced a very strong era and then they got so battled hardened that later on they did not have rivals because everyone younger to them were just too much under their aura.
- Both have a vibrant fanbase
- Both have STRONG FIRM PARENTS who believed in their kids right from early years, Srdjan Djokovic and Richard Williams are both rock solid.
- Both are best of the 21st century ahead of their fields, hence they can be called GOAT in their gender.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.


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Cheater Serena. During bushfires she called Federer the GOAT. Do not worry at all dear Serena. Novak will eclipse your slam count in under a year. He doesn't need validation from Serena.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Yeah she "congratulated" him alright...it's like me congratulating my parents on their marriage anniversary by sending nothing, but a "wink" emoji in some text messenger...LOL More like she acknowledged his achievement and just let him know about it, that's what it looks like...it's like saying - "i see what you did there..." or something...
now Nadal and most recently Federer - that was a proper congratulations!...no matter if people think it was genuine or not...to me it seemed like it was...
True. These nike athletes are all fake. Rena could call Federer GOAT. Is she showing cowardice calling Novak the GOAT? She should have kept same standards and not be bullied by fedfans.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Will you believe me if I told you that Serena sees herself far superior to Big 3 in her mind :p .... So she doesn't feel the urge to feel so excited at Novak's 23 because she herself has 23.

She thinks she should have won 30-32 slams and she also feels a woman is burdened with biology (pregnancy) which she cannot outsource to her husband while Nole/Federer easily outsourced the job of having a kid and raising them to their wives while they focused on their careers....

So in her mind she is far superior to Big 3
She? Superior to big 3? Don't kid yourself.

Big 3 had each other, near peer adversaries. Serena has nobody, and let's not create false narratives that because of Rena they couldn't win. No. She has as many titles as nole. So there was a lot of titles for others to win but she sailed through weak women's era. If she thinks she is superior to big 3, let her play. Even with doubles court advantage big 3 will easily beat her. And no sir, she isn't superior to them, no competition.
 

Razer

Legend
She? Superior to big 3? Don't kid yourself.

Big 3 had each other, near peer adversaries. Serena has nobody, and let's not create false narratives that because of Rena they couldn't win. No. She has as many titles as nole. So there was a lot of titles for others to win but she sailed through weak women's era. If she thinks she is superior to big 3, let her play. Even with doubles court advantage big 3 will easily beat her. And no sir, she isn't superior to them, no competition.

Tell that to her, she thinks she is superior to Big 3, we cannot change her mind. Maybe when Novak wins more slams she might change her mind.

ATP and WTA should not be compared, both are distinct and unique, in her field Serena definitely ruled. She did face her own set of challenges, so we cannot compare.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Tell that to her, she thinks she is superior to Big 3, we cannot change her mind. Maybe when Novak wins more slams she might change her mind.

ATP and WTA should not be compared, both are distinct and unique, in her field Serena definitely ruled. She did face her own set of challenges, so we cannot compare.
I will if I visit California. Even good college players will beat her. Probably.
 

Razer

Legend
I will if I visit California. Even good college players will beat her. Probably.

You are not a woman, so what is the use of your beating her ? If you wanna compete then compete with men, not with women.

Ask any woman to beat him, that is not possible, can any girl beat her records? no right? Thats why she is great

Cannot compare genders, if she things she is greater then that is her choice, she has earned the right to think like that, she is a supreme champ in her own right.
 

Curtennis

Hall of Fame
Overrated to high heaven by a generation of "new school" tennis fans trying to spit on the old guard, piled up unspeakable numbers in trash eras, general victim mentality, very uncouth and unrefined on court behavior.

Very astute observation.
What a hateful and disgusting comment.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Novak is yet to win Olympics or the number of doubles titles of Serena so there is no comparison.
Not to knock a doubles career because I think it's great when ATG singles players can double up and do both, but Djokovic plays BO5. She can't compare.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, the congratulatory messages timing speaks for themselves.

- Nadal congratulated first, elaborately he did, this means he is down to earth and feels the occasion needs to be "acknowledged personally" in seriousness and with grace. So he did it twice, first in a tweet and then in his academy speech.

- Then came Federer, a bit late but even he thought it is important to at least say something good and to sound friendly and graceful for PR purposes. Federer used to consider himself superior many years ago but now he has toned down, been forced to eat humble pie. So he too congratulated properly.

- Then comes Serena, who just doesn't care, she is smug and she just "acknowledges it" as if she wants to say "yeah I see what you did...." ..... That tells her mindset, she considers herself above Big 3 even today.

I struggle to see the problem tbh. She gave him props what more can she do? I don’t see any smugness at all. Why this obsession about having to send congratulatory messages on social media between athletes? Lets say none of them said anytinhg through their social media accounts, what says they didn't message Nole privately?

I really don't see the mountain we are making this out to be about such trifles.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic has won more Major titles than Williams in their 30s but he is not a mother.
:notworthy:
 
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