Speed Pro long term users

TennisHound

Legend
I’ve been using the 360+ Speed Pro and winning quite a few matches with it over the last several months. I’m over 50 (53 this year) and a basic racquetaholic (1step is admitting it lol) but I’ve gravitated toward It consistently and grooving with it pretty well.

I’m just curious who has used the Speed Pro long term with success :)
 

Hit 'em clean

Semi-Pro
I've been hitting with the Speed Pro 360+ for about a two months now and haven't been tempted to try anything else... even with the new Radicals and Vcore Pros which I'm quite interested in. Took me a few times to get my timing down with it and to get used the the lower more traditional sweet spot (came from a Gravity Pro) but I've been really enjoying it. Very comfortable frame and I love the feel at contact. I loved the Gravity Pro, but it was right on the edge of being a little too heavy in the static weight category so some days I would find it tiring. Wanted something just a tad lighter but similar plow. Almost passed this one by as I had tried the 360 version and that one didn't work out... really didn't think the 360+ would be that different so I held off trying it... glad I finally did.

I really like Hyper G 17ga at 46lbs... just tried some Triax 17ga at 48 and 50lbs but that didn't work so well. Triax was very comfortable, decent spin and nice power... but ultimately ball would just fly on me if I wasn't perfect or generating enough topspin.
 

TennisHound

Legend
I've been hitting with the Speed Pro 360+ for about a two months now and haven't been tempted to try anything else... even with the new Radicals and Vcore Pros which I'm quite interested in. Took me a few times to get my timing down with it and to get used the the lower more traditional sweet spot (came from a Gravity Pro) but I've been really enjoying it. Very comfortable frame and I love the feel at contact. I loved the Gravity Pro, but it was right on the edge of being a little too heavy in the static weight category so some days I would find it tiring. Wanted something just a tad lighter but similar plow. Almost passed this one by as I had tried the 360 version and that one didn't work out... really didn't think the 360+ would be that different so I held off trying it... glad I finally did.

I really like Hyper G 17ga at 46lbs... just tried some Triax 17ga at 48 and 50lbs but that didn't work so well. Triax was very comfortable, decent spin and nice power... but ultimately ball would just fly on me if I wasn't perfect or generating enough topspin.
I have to get mine restrung. It’s strung with .16ga Synthetic Gut around 57lbs lol. I‘be been working in Haiti for about 4 months so I can’t get it strung yet. Even so, it’s still a nice hitting frame. I’ve added about 2-3 grams at 10 and 2 and it hits very plush and stable, while feeling pretty light. Serves are very difficult, but it excels everywhere else. Of course, I haven’t played any hard fast paced tennis, but it’s easy to win with (as long as I don’t have to serve too much, or hit second serves lol).
 

avisar

Rookie
I've been hitting with the Speed Pro 360+ for about a two months now and haven't been tempted to try anything else... even with the new Radicals and Vcore Pros which I'm quite interested in. Took me a few times to get my timing down with it and to get used the the lower more traditional sweet spot (came from a Gravity Pro) but I've been really enjoying it. Very comfortable frame and I love the feel at contact. I loved the Gravity Pro, but it was right on the edge of being a little too heavy in the static weight category so some days I would find it tiring. Wanted something just a tad lighter but similar plow. Almost passed this one by as I had tried the 360 version and that one didn't work out... really didn't think the 360+ would be that different so I held off trying it... glad I finally did.

I really like Hyper G 17ga at 46lbs... just tried some Triax 17ga at 48 and 50lbs but that didn't work so well. Triax was very comfortable, decent spin and nice power... but ultimately ball would just fly on me if I wasn't perfect or generating enough topspin.
I had same issue like you with gravity pro. But i order two gravity tour, i customozed them to little underspecs. 314grams 314balance and little bit lower SW to 298 ustrung. Works awesome.
 

mrravioli

Semi-Pro
i've been using the previous 360 version for years. not my full time racquet (keep switching) but always pleasantly surprised how good it is every time i pull it out. i demoed the new version, it's a bit more stable but less maneuverable. didn't buy it in the end sicne it's 90% same racquet but i much prefer the old paint job
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
i've been using the previous 360 version for years. not my full time racquet (keep switching) but always pleasantly surprised how good it is every time i pull it out. i demoed the new version, it's a bit more stable but less maneuverable. didn't buy it in the end sicne it's 90% same racquet but i much prefer the old paint job
Same. The 360+ is super plush feeling, but it's too polarized in weight distribution and doesn't have the whippiness of the 360.
 

GummiiBear

Semi-Pro
The 360+ Speed Pro helped welcome me back to tennis after several years, with open arms. I've been rocking it since last August (6 1/2 months), and while I am demoing racquets at present a little part of me genuinely hopes I decide to just get another one. Maybe I'll get one with the other paint job, if so.

I got it strung with Babolat VS gut 16ga on the mains and Solinco Confidential 17ga on the crosses mid-December @ 55 but have been enjoying it especially more in recent sessions after I added 3g of lead to the throat; tension is currently at 53 lbs. which I think I'll get it strung at to start next time. Today I replaced my grip with leather because I wanted to add a little weight and I love the feel of it (bevels). I'll give that a go before considering adding at most 2g in the head... don't want to overload the hoop.

Aside from headsize being a little larger than I typically like, and the weight a little lower, sometimes I feel a lack in stability, or will occasionally experience a flutter with my forehands. I'm leaning towards switching to the 360+ Prestige MP but the Speed Pro has a seduction to it power-wise, heh.
 

Villain

Professional
I haven’t been playing with the 360+ Speed Pro exclusively but it’s been my main racquet since the end of last summer. Great all-around frame that does everything well. I’ve got a leather grip on it now (Fairway) and a little bit of lead at the 12.
 

GummiiBear

Semi-Pro
So after I tried my Speed Pro with a leather grip (and overgrip), I tried 1g at 12 and didn’t seem to care for it. I then tried 2g at 10 and 2 and that seems to work well for me. I do not have previous experience with lead tape so am probably going to leave it as is. I might give a little to 3 and 9 just to feel it but my gut feeling is that I’ll keep it where it’s at. It’s now 335g total. Remains to be seen whether or not I’ll make the switch to the Prestige MP but I imagine I’ll be happy either way.
 

TennisHound

Legend
So after I tried my Speed Pro with a leather grip (and overgrip), I tried 1g at 12 and didn’t seem to care for it. I then tried 2g at 10 and 2 and that seems to work well for me. I do not have previous experience with lead tape so am probably going to leave it as is. I might give a little to 3 and 9 just to feel it but my gut feeling is that I’ll keep it where it’s at. It’s now 335g total. Remains to be seen whether or not I’ll make the switch to the Prestige MP but I imagine I’ll be happy either way.
The flexible feel of the 360+ takes lead really well. I also preferred weight at 10 & 2 vs 12. Although I ended up removing it and lowered the string tension slightly. Works well
 

GummiiBear

Semi-Pro
The flexible feel of the 360+ takes lead really well. I also preferred weight at 10 & 2 vs 12. Although I ended up removing it and lowered the string tension slightly. Works well

May I ask what tension you opted to drop to? I went with 55 the two times I got it strung (concern re: control) but find I like it better this time now that it’s lowered some after a couple months of play. Might be because I switched my mains from a multi to gut and changed the poly and gauge of the latter.
 

TennisHound

Legend
May I ask what tension you opted to drop to? I went with 55 the two times I got it strung (concern re: control) but find I like it better this time now that it’s lowered some after a couple months of play. Might be because I switched my mains from a multi to gut and changed the poly and gauge of the latter.
I dropped down to 47. I’m still not getting the rhs on serve however, so I’m gonna let this one go.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Has anyone played with both the White/Black and the All-Black versions of the 360+ SP?

Any differences in the feel (sorry if this has been asked already)?
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Same feel, but looks so much better

Thanks, that's good to know. I heard someone say that the white head/ black throat colour scheme makes the racquet look bigger... and I tend to agree... black would be much better as it would shrink the racquet size and make the difference between a 98 and 100 look even smaller.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
Are there any differences between the 360 and the +360 Speed Pro beside the higher swingweight? I can find used 360s for so much cheaper than +360's, which are nearly impossible to find under $200.
 

Hit 'em clean

Semi-Pro
Thanks, that's good to know. I heard someone say that the white head/ black throat colour scheme makes the racquet look bigger... and I tend to agree... black would be much better as it would shrink the racquet size and make the difference between a 98 and 100 look even smaller.
White definitely looks bigger... the black has a slimming effect to the look of the frame. They both hit the same.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
Are you feeling like if you did that yourself the racquet would become too heavy, or too much in some way or another?
Right. To counter it myself just seemed to reduce whippiness even more.

Edit: TW has a matching service that will pick out a lower spec SW stick for me at a small fee. This would definitely be the way to go for the +.
 
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StanAO14

Semi-Pro
Are you feeling like if you did that yourself the racquet would become too heavy, or too much in some way or another?
Stringing the 360+ with a thin poly (1.18 in my case) Made the racquet not difficult to swing. Easier than a blade. I then put some putty into the handle (5 grams) but that made the racquet too HL. Long story short: you can easily handle this one considering your normal weight preference. Versus the angell tc 95/100 line 63RA: angell’s feel is better en it serves much better than the speed. Speed more forgiving of course versus 95.
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
I actually own both and have been using both of them for about a year now. They play completely different and it's easy to get used to one and play well with it and try the other and have your game be thrown off by the transition. Sometimes I'll play with one for an extended period of time and will think of selling the other, only to realize there's some qualities of the other that I really do like.

To put it simply, I've realized that when I play games/sets, I do much better with the MP. But I actually prefer and love just free rallying with the Pro. I love the pro for its thick feel on impact. It feels soft and gives you small ripples of flex, but uniformly is pretty rigid. I can definitely hit a flatter ball with the Pro and the ball moves according to how much extra you hit into it. The racquet almost asks you to throw your body into it a little more and I love it on my one handed backhand. But I yield much better results when playing actual sets with the MP.

The MP has a more stiffer feel. Not super stiff, but stiff and slightly flexible. A little bit like a babolat pure strike with more weight. The MP also has a much higher launch and trajectory angle. I can hit a medium stroke and get. a medium to fast ball. As opposed to the Pro where I needed to thrust a bit more of my body to get a more heavy ball. That's more easily done in a stationary rally setting, but when your opponent is moving you, it becomes more difficult to throw your body weight when you're moving around the court. The MP is much easier to return. In fact, I believe the return is the best component of the MP and since that is how you start off the point when you're not serving, it ranks up there in importance.

I was playing a very good player who had some good movement on his serve. I played the first set with the Pro and could not really find a beat on his serve. Even when I was making contact with the ball, the ball would go more errant. I could not even begin rallying on his serve because he was holding so comfortably. That put pressure on my serve and I lost the first set 1-6. It was closer than the score with a lot of deuce points on my service, but you only get to serve about 3 times in a quick set like that. The second set, I actually tried the MP and did much better. I actually was located his serve much better and the contact to follow through with the MP actually allowed me to put him in some very defensive positions to start off his serve. The more pressure I was putting on his serve, the more my game grew and his serve ultimately weakened. I was also able to get a lot more spin and power without thinking about having to generate all the power. I jumped out to a 4-1 lead and ultimately won 6-4. But I felt much more comfortable. And I actually felt like I had the blueprint to beat him a third set.

I'm transitioning away from singles play and mainly play doubles to preserve my body as time goes on. I think both are really great racquets and I kind of stick to the rule that when I hit against my 4.5 / 5.0 friends, I usually play with the pro. But if I play singles set, it's easily the MP. For doubles, I can use either, I do notice that I play a bit more methodical with the pro when I have time to plan out my shots. But I can play more fast and loose with the MP. In this regard, it doesn't matter which I use. But I am glad I have both to where I can switch off.
 

Villain

Professional
If head would depolarize the 360+ just a smidge, it would be perfect!
I got one that started with these starting specs unstrung:

308g / 31.7 cm / 295 SW

After adding 5G of lead at the 3&9, a leather grip, over grip, and dampener I ended up with this:

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Yeah, a stock racquet at TW’s measured specs is relatively polarized, but finding a lighter SW model and adding the leather and lead at the 3&9 got me pretty close to what I wanted.
 

Hit 'em clean

Semi-Pro
Are you feeling like if you did that yourself the racquet would become too heavy, or too much in some way or another?
There are plenty of underspec Speed Pros available. The first one I bought is right on spec and is my favorite... a few others I've bought since then have all been under spec slightly. They play a little whippier which can be nice sometimes if I feel I'm a little slow/late on the ball that day or up against someone that is bombing their serve. I prefer the on spec which is what I play best with. You should have no problem finding some 11.5oz sticks with 6-7pts HL.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Stringing the 360+ with a thin poly (1.18 in my case) Made the racquet not difficult to swing. Easier than a blade. I then put some putty into the handle (5 grams) but that made the racquet too HL. Long story short: you can easily handle this one considering your normal weight preference. Versus the angell tc 95/100 line 63RA: angell’s feel is better en it serves much better than the speed. Speed more forgiving of course versus 95.

I would try the racquet stock, check for any "weaknesses", then attempt to rectify them with some weight mods. Considering the static weight, a smaller window in the SW department, and my preference for a more HL balance, there is definite wiggle room available when it comes to customization.

This racquet would be a consideration if I felt like it would provide a larger margin for error, whilst being close enough in the serving, weight-of-shot, and court penetration departments.

Do you feel like a 1.18mm string in this 18x20 pattern would still be ok, or would the spacing be too open? Furthermore, what tension would be good? I normally string my 18x20 95s or 98s at 46M/43C (DT of around 38 is ideal)... so maybe 50M/47C or 48M/46C? Cheers
 
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Hit 'em clean

Semi-Pro
I play with 17ga so you should be fine, I've always tended to string on the lower end. 46lbs works for me, but I recently restrung at 48lbs just to get a little more control over the full life of the strings to see how that goes.
 

GummiiBear

Semi-Pro
I got one that started with these starting specs unstrung:

308g / 31.7 cm / 295 SW

After adding 5G of lead at the 3&9, a leather grip, over grip, and dampener I ended up with this:

7-F3-AA35-F-F564-4-E83-8706-AE6-A1-AE53368.jpg


Yeah, a stock racquet at TW’s measured specs is relatively polarized, but finding a lighter SW model and adding the leather and lead at the 3&9 got me pretty close to what I wanted.

I recently got a roll of lead tape because I didn’t like the folds on the Gamma package; so I redid the tape on mine and after my 3g in the throat, 2g at 10 and 2, leather grip and overgrip, and I’m now at 337g total. Hmm.
 
I was doing really well with my 360+ Speed Pro last year (295 swingweight), in particular my forehand was killer, however my serve was never quite what I wanted it to be, nor was my 2HBH. I tried a Gravity Pro last year and didn't like it, but got another recently (301 swingweight) and am loving it in regards to the serve and 2HBH, both of which I think benefit from the higher sweet spot on the Gravity. Still need to work on the forehand a bit, but I may be switching from the Speed Pro to the Gravity Pro.
 

avisar

Rookie
I was doing really well with my 360+ Speed Pro last year (295 swingweight), in particular my forehand was killer, however my serve was never quite what I wanted it to be, nor was my 2HBH. I tried a Gravity Pro last year and didn't like it, but got another recently (301 swingweight) and am loving it in regards to the serve and 2HBH, both of which I think benefit from the higher sweet spot on the Gravity. Still need to work on the forehand a bit, but I may be switching from the Speed Pro to the Gravity Pro.
I'm playing gravity with 298sw unstrung. It's ok. I'm thinking to switch to new speed pro from my gravity :D
 
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