octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Hi, Fed devotee! You are wrong about Rafa, he doesn't stall. He follows the 25-second rule. Posters who have accused him going over the time limit, actually haven't seen it on the serve clock. Have you seen?
Stalling tactics.
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vanioMan
Legend
Nadal fans are out in full force today and actually complaining about someone going over time? He got called for the time violation in the 2nd set and didn't go over again. It was obviously because of the wind. I think you need to be reminded it's still 23 > 22.Nothing has changed in the grand scheme of things.
Nadal fans celebrating him overtaking in the slam count.
They don't learn.
They were out in full force in the Djokovic-Sinner quarter final thread last year getting ready to celebrate and party. That blew up badly, Djokovic comes back to win Wimbledon, Nadal gets injured and forced to pull out Then gloating that Djokovic isn't playing USO and Nadal owns the slam, only for him to be taken out by Tiafoe of all people, basically doing in his chances to prevent Djokovic from catching him. Then were hoping the three year ban to enter Australia would stay in place, only to see Djokovic not only come back but wreck everyone on his way to catching Nadal, while Nadal unfortunately for him, suffered a big injury, loses to McDonalds and is forced to sit out the rest of the year. Then the celebrating on how Djokovic was sucking during clay season, and hoping Nadal was going to come back to win RG and take the lead, only for their worst possible scenario coming true, and Djokovic breaking the record on Nadal's own court and getting a triple career slam to boot.
But yesterday was a victory for Nadal, tennis was saved and Nadal was given the slam record again. All is good. LOL
They should focus on their guy and hope he can come back and win one more Slam, which he really only has a realistic chance at one more RG, instead of trying to throw dirt on Djokovic. A lot of them disliked Alcaraz but now he's their savior today. Lol. Yet they forgot it's still 23 > 22.
Eh, what's up, guys? You are usually very nice and civil, so why did you decide to target the bad Rafa fans and generalize so much? I understand that you might get rattled, but most Rafa fans are cool and you know that
woody88
Rookie
"Nadal fans are out in force"? All I see are a bunch of Djoker fan whiners coming on here to defend their guy.
Neither Rafa or Djoker have any excuse to get any leniency on serve clock violation. It's in both of their routine, both annoying AF, and both can be avoided. They can clearly play faster, as Rafa has often shown when he is injured, or in yesterday's case, when Djoker was called for the violation. If you just bounce the ball 87650 times, instead of 87651 times each time you serve, perhaps you never have a serve clock to worry about.
Neither Rafa or Djoker have any excuse to get any leniency on serve clock violation. It's in both of their routine, both annoying AF, and both can be avoided. They can clearly play faster, as Rafa has often shown when he is injured, or in yesterday's case, when Djoker was called for the violation. If you just bounce the ball 87650 times, instead of 87651 times each time you serve, perhaps you never have a serve clock to worry about.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
You are good and so are most Nadal fans....we are talking about ones who like to twist the knife. And you know there a few of them.Eh, what's up, guys? You are usually very nice and civil, so why did you decide to target the bad Rafa fans and generalize so much? I understand that you might get rattled, but most Rafa fans are cool and you know that
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Most Rafa fans probably are cool, just not the ones on ttw.Eh, what's up, guys? You are usually very nice and civil, so why did you decide to target the bad Rafa fans and generalize so much? I understand that you might get rattled, but most Rafa fans are cool and you know that
That ship sailed at AO 2022. Of course I don't include you in that group.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
If you were a Rafa fan, you wouldn't mislead readers with posting incorrect statements about him.
vanioMan
Legend
You are good and so are most Nadal fans....we are talking about ones who like to twist the knife. And you know there a few of them.
I do, yeah, but there's not much one can do about them.
Nevertheless, Novak is insane. I watched sets 2-4 yesterday and at times kept wondering how does he make some of those shots. No doubt the best ever and the most impressive resume of them all.
God give me strength to deal with this.
ADuck
Legend
Octo out here exposing us fake Nadal fans. She caught me too yesterday man.
Octo needs some relaxing therapy.
fuzz nation
G.O.A.T.
The irony in all this is that once the clock was introduced, matches trended longer instead of shorter. Now that the players actually know how much time they have to work with, they can keep sucking wind right down to the last second or two. There is a grey area in terms of discerning when a player has started a serve, but the officials just need to be consistent with that. I do wish they could clean that up.
Hard to believe that some of these players don't just give away their first serves while standing there at the baseline gulping air for a full minute and a half to more fully recover after a tough point. Maybe that blatant form of stalling would earn a code violation. I do think that there needs to be a clock on the second serve though. At the rate he's going now, Djokovic is going to start bouncing that ball 40-50 times whenever he hits a first serve fault.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Post it.
Go look at Nadal's rant against the umpire at AO 2023 and then you can talk about Djokovic.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
You have Google my dear.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
You answer means that you have no evidence.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
It took me all of 2 seconds yet you couldn't find it?
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'With you it's always the same!' - Nadal lets rip at umpire over his towel
Rafael Nadal was left absolutely fuming after feeling as though he did not have time to get his towel in between points at the Australian Open.
www.eurosport.com
_phantom
Hall of Fame
During a changeover, unlike Djokovic who would go to the umpire complaining immediately or during another point (if he thinks the clock was started too early again) and waste more time.It took me 2 seconds but you want to appear to be obtuse.
'With you it's always the same!' - Nadal lets rip at umpire over his towel
Rafael Nadal was left absolutely fuming after feeling as though he did not have time to get his towel in between points at the Australian Open.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Lol, like it matters.
I don't think anyone is allowed to post on YouTube. Copyrighted by the BBC. It will be on BBC iplayer.Does anyone have the clip of the time violation when the crowd erupted in cheers? I would like to see that again.
You would think they just announced that the crowd would all receive free Chick-Fil-A, with the way they erupted in unanimous applause
_phantom
Hall of Fame
Yes, it does. Djoker's interaction with the umpire and the crowd during a game has been a new ploy to unsettle the opponent, this year. So is his Kyrgios-esque interaction with his team members.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Sure, that's why Djokovic had words with the umpire. To unsettle his opponent, not because he thought the clock was started too quickly...
_phantom
Hall of Fame
He should do that during changeover without drama, if needed. Like Nadal does.
Here is a picture of Djoker vs Sinner when Sinner was playing a bit better. What was he asking from his team? Why does he do it again and again when the opponent has a chance. He didn't have this problem a year or two ago.
The endless bounces drive me crazy too.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
I have no idea what you're talking about right now. He beat Sinner easily.He should do that during changeover without drama, if needed. Like Nadal does.
Here is a picture of Djoker vs Sinner when Sinner was playing a bit better. What was he asking from his team? Why does he do it again and again when the opponent has a chance. He didn't have this problem a year or two ago.
_phantom
Hall of Fame
If you didn't watch the match, pay attention next time. For a year or so, every time he is under pressure (yes, Sinner put him under pressure in a lot of games) in a match - he takes longer to serve, does a faulty ball toss to take even longer, suddenly decides to go personal with someone in the crowd, asks something from his team in a very confusing manner (his team often have no clue)... all these are new developments.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
The article you posted proves that Rafa did not exceed the 25-second time limit he saw on the serve clock (operated by the chair umpire).It took me all of 2 seconds yet you couldn't find it?
'With you it's always the same!' - Nadal lets rip at umpire over his towel
Rafael Nadal was left absolutely fuming after feeling as though he did not have time to get his towel in between points at the Australian Open.
He just complained that he didn't have time to get his towel in between points, the towel was too far. He talked to the chair umpire during a changeover and didn't waste anyone's time.
But in the example I posted earlier, your beloved player Djoko exeeded the 25-second time limit and after receiving the warning, he walked to the umpire's chair and started to yell at him (post #110):
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/djokovic-is-so-right.749719/page-3#post-17331211
Phenomenal
Hall of Fame
Come on I understand is a tough loss for his fans but you guys offended much to reactions from one loss. Like you said your guy rarely loses these days. I mean of course people will celebrate and dispute after big match finally someone deathrones Djokovic at Wimbledon.
I'm not active everyday but i can easily see for atleast 1 year disrespect to Nadal in every way is insane in TTW from mostly Djokovic fans. Not to mention all those kind of cocky talks and underestimate all other players lately in forum.
Like most fans you ignore the same kind of things your and much more(to me) your fanbase does.
The final was the most egregious abuse of shot clock. Crowd erupted in cheers when he was given time violation. It was so blatant.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
No...you said Djokovic had a rant with the umpire, as if Nadal didn't do even worse this year at AO. Nadal fans don't have a leg to stand on when talking about players taking too much time. Didn't he repeatedly do it at RG 2022 in the match against Djokovic and got a time violation, and McEnroe basically flat out said it was a joke and he should have been called on it more?
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'It's a joke!' - Nadal gets warning as McEnroe slams shot clock farce
Eurosport expert John McEnroe had his say after Rafael Nadal got a time violation for taking too long over his serves against Novak Djokovic at the French Open.
www.eurosport.com
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Nadal and Djokovic have always been notoriously slow starters (Nadal with his elaborate pre-serving routine, Djokovic with his endless ball bouncing). Federer, by contrast, was always very quick. Very difficult to alter the tempo at which you play after so many years of ingrained habit!!!
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Yea sure there are trolls in every fanbase, but that doesn't mean we can't call them out when they are actively trolling non-stop since yesterday. After AO 2022, I think this response to them is tame if we're being honest. I don't mean you of course since you are the one of the decent ones imo.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, Djoko had a rant with Lahyani:No...you said Djokovic had a rant with the umpire, as if Nadal didn't do even worse this year at AO. Nadal fans don't have a leg to stand on when talking about players taking too much time. Didn't he repeatedly do it at RG 2022 in the match against Djokovic and got a time violation, and McEnroe basically flat out said it was a joke and he should have been called on it more?
'It's a joke!' - Nadal gets warning as McEnroe slams shot clock farce
Eurosport expert John McEnroe had his say after Rafael Nadal got a time violation for taking too long over his serves against Novak Djokovic at the French Open.
Phenomenal
Hall of Fame
He was also responsible for those missed slams other than Wimbledon 2020 where he was the big favourite but don't want to mention zillion times the missed opportunities for Nadal.
While i wanted Djokovic to play those slams in 2022 but don't get the idea not directly saying to you but some fans talking about USO last year like clearly he would have won or asterisk for whoever, when Alcaraz won.
Djokovic won 3 USO in his entire so far so he wasn't a lock.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Yea just keep going back and forth and pointing the finger at someone else other than Nadal. It's really all you ever do. I know Djokovic can be slow and he should have been called on the time yesterday, because he was too slow and he got on with it after that. Just don't point fingers at other players when your favorite player is even slower than he is.
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NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Yea he was responsible for those 3 but let's not pretend that this didn't affect the Slam race. No one is saying he would have surely won, but he definitely would have had a good chance.
Phenomenal
Hall of Fame
Some are haters and other ones, maybe even majority are reacting(When 2 fanbase clashes
) and it goes on and on never ending.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
McEnroe in the article: "It's a joke! He takes a look at the clock again… one. He’s edging it, isn’t he? Shouldn’t they have it at 15 seconds on the second serve? 10? Something?"No...you said Djokovic had a rant with the umpire, as if Nadal didn't do even worse this year at AO. Nadal fans don't have a leg to stand on when talking about players taking too much time. Didn't he repeatedly do it at RG 2022 in the match against Djokovic and got a time violation, and McEnroe basically flat out said it was a joke and he should have been called on it more?
'It's a joke!' - Nadal gets warning as McEnroe slams shot clock farce
Eurosport expert John McEnroe had his say after Rafael Nadal got a time violation for taking too long over his serves against Novak Djokovic at the French Open.
I wonder, if McEnroe himself understood what he was talking about.
ihitlikeagirl
Semi-Pro
TBH, they should have called Novak many times yesterday for going over serve clock...as well as anyone else who does it. I find it interesting how those that go over time do it on the big points especially and it's almost like they know the chair will be more lenient at those moments because otherwise they will influence the match by making the call. I think in Novak's case he does that extra bouncing and taking up the time because he is either plotting out where to serve or more than likely to frustrate his opponent--probably both to be honest!!! Just as a viewer I find it super distracting and you stop focusing on the game and start thinking about other stuff--it takes your head into other places rather than focused--I'm sure he figured that out. It's definitely get under your skin type stuff. At least when some other players do it, they have all their little actions happening so you are not held hostage thinking the serve is going to happen any second now--that's why Novak's is so annoying. Anyway, anything that goes over serve clock should be called.
They also need to start calling way more hindrance calls for the shrieking or grunts--even some players I like very much do it, but it's not fair to the opponent. And they should call it--definitely some gamesmanship to those noises and no reason at all why it needs to continue on that long.
They also need to start calling way more hindrance calls for the shrieking or grunts--even some players I like very much do it, but it's not fair to the opponent. And they should call it--definitely some gamesmanship to those noises and no reason at all why it needs to continue on that long.
Sorry_to_tell_you_mate
Professional
We don't care about your ravings. Stay on topic.They don't learn.
They were out in full force in the Djokovic-Sinner quarter final thread last year getting ready to celebrate and party. That blew up badly, Djokovic comes back to win Wimbledon, Nadal gets injured and forced to pull out Then gloating that Djokovic isn't playing USO and Nadal owns the slam, only for him to be taken out by Tiafoe of all people, basically doing in his chances to prevent Djokovic from catching him. Then were hoping the three year ban to enter Australia would stay in place, only to see Djokovic not only come back but wreck everyone on his way to catching Nadal, while Nadal unfortunately for him, suffered a big injury, loses to McDonalds and is forced to sit out the rest of the year. Then the celebrating on how Djokovic was sucking during clay season, and hoping Nadal was going to come back to win RG and take the lead, only for their worst possible scenario coming true, and Djokovic breaking the record on Nadal's own court and getting a triple career slam to boot.
But yesterday was a victory for Nadal, tennis was saved and Nadal was given the slam record again. All is good. LOL
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Eh, what's up, guys? You are usually very nice and civil, so why did you decide to target the bad Rafa fans and generalize so much? I understand that you might get rattled, but most Rafa fans are cool and you know that
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Too nice a read on it.
Djok was having issues with Charles' shots and just tried to do whatever he could to disrupt him
Airspun
Hall of Fame
Tom cruise slayed when he was running in the candle lit corridor and dashing on airport roofs!
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
I can watch Tom run and chase people around all day lol. The airport part was so epic. and the corridor.
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