The Deadest Poly On The Market

royroy85

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I'm looking to find the deadest poly on the market and from a lot of searches here and on TW reviews it seems LUX BBO is the go to string. I generally prefer strings that do not add anything to my strokes, I prefer it to just play to my commands.

Coming from the SPPP which does that but at times to mushy in my soft frames, want something a bit stiffer, great durability AND DEADER!

Any suggestions?
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
Gosen Polylon Ice... don't know if they sell it still. That was disgustingly hard.

Yonex PolyTour Pro HS is a very dead, plasticky feeling string.
 

JT_2eighty

Hall of Fame
4G much more 'lifeless' than BBO. I actually found BBO to be a bit lively in comparison.

I think for ultimate 'deadness' though, you want a 1st-gen poly like Duralast or Kirschbaum Smash honey.
 

darklore009

Hall of Fame
gosen polylon is one of the most deadest poly that i tried. very stiff and always reminds me way i stay away from polylon
 

spinovic

Hall of Fame
I've read a lot of comments on here from people about Weiss Cannon Black5Edge being a very low powered poly.

Also, the TW reviewers gave Isospeed Black Fire a very low power rating. I know you can't take their number ratings as some sort of gospel, but it got a score in the low 30s, which is significantly lower than most other polys they score. And, they also commented on that aspect of the string.

Just a couple to consider that wouldn't cost quite as much a a string from Luxilon or Tecnifibre.
 

royroy85

Rookie
4G much more 'lifeless' than BBO. I actually found BBO to be a bit lively in comparison.

I think for ultimate 'deadness' though, you want a 1st-gen poly like Duralast or Kirschbaum Smash honey.

I hear you, but the first gen polys have terrible tension retention qualities which is a big no no. Will check out 4g is that has been recommended by someone as well.
 

JT_2eighty

Hall of Fame
I hear you, but the first gen polys have terrible tension retention qualities which is a big no no. Will check out 4g is that has been recommended by someone as well.

True. You may still want to look just at Kirschbaum Smash Honey then. Although it's been around a while, Kirschbaum pre-stretch their polys and I have a former college player I string for that uses the 16g in a Prestige Mid. He hits a heavy ball and the string plays dead and controlled for him from start to finish, which sometimes can be over a month of really intense hitting.

While most tt.tw people will say how terrible it is to play with poly for more than a week or two (which is definitely true for certain polys and playstyles), I'm sometimes shaken out of that mentality when watching a small few really good players (who have played high level 'real' tennis) use their poly for much longer than that, and never talk about their strings' "resilience" or "snap-back". They just go and play tennis and take names. They also usually are still using 'outdated' strings and racquets, wiping the courts with guys using the "latest technology".

I'm not saying we all should use Mids from the 90s and POSG, but sometimes the hunt for the latest and greatest can cloud our perceptions on how to improve our games, and often a cheaper, older string can perform just as good as the expensive new ones.
 

royroy85

Rookie
True. You may still want to look just at Kirschbaum Smash Honey then. Although it's been around a while, Kirschbaum pre-stretch their polys and I have a former college player I string for that uses the 16g in a Prestige Mid. He hits a heavy ball and the string plays dead and controlled for him from start to finish, which sometimes can be over a month of really intense hitting.

While most tt.tw people will say how terrible it is to play with poly for more than a week or two (which is definitely true for certain polys and playstyles), I'm sometimes shaken out of that mentality when watching a small few really good players (who have played high level 'real' tennis) use their poly for much longer than that, and never talk about their strings' "resilience" or "snap-back". They just go and play tennis and take names. They also usually are still using 'outdated' strings and racquets, wiping the courts with guys using the "latest technology".

I'm not saying we all should use Mids from the 90s and POSG, but sometimes the hunt for the latest and greatest can cloud our perceptions on how to improve our games, and often a cheaper, older string can perform just as good as the expensive new ones.


True, tennis is complicated enough as it is, that's why the main aim is to find a racquet that does what you command and a string to do the same. I have found my trusty stick and now need a dead poly to complement my game.

The aim is to go and play tennis.
 

ChicagoJack

Hall of Fame
I'm looking to find the deadest poly on the market and from a lot of searches here and on TW reviews it seems LUX BBO is the go to string. I generally prefer strings that do not add anything to my strokes, I prefer it to just play to my commands.

Coming from the SPPP which does that but at times to mushy in my soft frames, want something a bit stiffer, great durability AND DEADER!

Any suggestions?



TWU String Performance Report Maker:
http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/reporter.php

Shopping for "dead" poly is like shooting fish in a barrel LOL. However, from that list above I'd probably go with Tour Bite 16L, Lux 4G 16, RPM Team 16, or Lux 4G S 15. I think what you want is very stiff string. The stiffness digits are generated by noting the number of pounds of pressure it takes to deflect a section of string that is the width of a racquet face exactly one inch. Where stiffness is equal, look for better tension maintenance. Where those two factors are equal, look for the third most important factor : lower energy return.

-J
 
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ricki

Hall of Fame
By garbage I assume you didn't like it? Any reason to that? Its rated quite highly here and on the stringforum.

I had it strung in my 2 Prince EXO Graphite 100s (which are considered as powerful racquets). String setup was this Yonex PTP yellow in mains with "micronite/microfibre" multi in crosses. I had to swing like idiot (feeling like barbar conan) to make the ball fly with some speed and have some spin on it. Any swing slower than maximum was either so short ball that it barely got to the net or it went terribly long as I tried to swing higher, but no spin was on it so it flew too long. It was for me truly horrible experience. Positive was that any incoming ball could be blocked back as with wooden plank and it landed somewhere on opponents side!
 

royroy85

Rookie


TWU String Performance Report Maker:
http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/reporter.php

Shopping for "dead" poly is like shooting fish in a barrel LOL. However, from that list above I'd probably go with Tour Bite 16L, Lux 4G 16, RPM Team 16, or Lux 4G S 15. I think what you want is very stiff string. The stiffness digits are generated by noting the number of pounds of pressure it takes to deflect a section of string that is the width of a racquet face exactly one inch. Where stiffness is equal, look for better tension maintenance. Where those two factors are equal, look for the third most important factor : lower energy return.

-J

Thanks Chicago, I have narrowed down the strings according to the above screening method.
 

HunterST

Hall of Fame
I'd give a kevlar hybrid a shot. Kevlar has more control than any poly I've tried and lasts much, much longer.
 

ChicagoJack

Hall of Fame
4g is deader than Saddam

4g is deader than Bin Laden!

I don't think that's entirely accurate. According to my vast team of rigorous researchers, molecular engineers, and statisticians, Luxilon 4G is actually deader than Kim Jong-Il, Emperor Hirohito, Chiang Kai-shek, Kaiser Wilhelm II, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and Ho Chi Minh, but is slightly less dead than Genghis Khan, and Vlad the Impaler.
 
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JT_2eighty

Hall of Fame
I'd give a kevlar hybrid a shot. Kevlar has more control than any poly I've tried and lasts much, much longer.

Yes, great point. OP should try kevlar with SPPP cross (or any other good tension holding poly like 4G). That will provide not just deadness, but consistent deadness over time. I would string the kevlar -5 lbs from your normal tension, with the poly at the same normal tension.
 

SFrazeur

Legend
When I first read the title of this thread I thought it was "The Deadliest Poly on The Market." As in which was the worst arm killer.
 
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