The most arm friendly racquets you have used?

I have been searching for arm friendly racquets for a while. I found Prince EXO3 tour, Volkl X10 (295), Prokennex 7G are superior than any other.
It is best for you to demo them by yourself. Some say this others say that but when you demo it you can see the difference. It is not hype or just word. You are looking for the fact proven by you.
 
Oh yes string is as almost important as racquet. Try soft multi strings. Mantis comfort multi and Pro's pro Kingut was really good. But eveyone agrees natural gut is the best. I use 54 main and 48 cross.
 
I have been searching for arm friendly racquets for a while. I found Prince EXO3 tour, Volkl X10 (295), Prokennex 7G are superior than any other.
It is best for you to demo them by yourself. Some say this others say that but when you demo it you can see the difference. It is not hype or just word. You are looking for the fact proven by you.

Prince EXO3 Tour has been recommended by many here. I did look at it (RA 52 is great), but was looking to stay in the 95-98 headsize. The Volkl organix 10 has similar specs to the Volkl PB10 (RA 64) that I bought.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Mine was strung with Gamma Live Wire xp 17 @ 54 mains/52 crosses and it feels great

Awesome. This was the 1st racquet that made lower tensions and two-piece stringing at different tensions a must. When it was right, solid.
 
EXO3 Tour Question

As I get older, I've found the PK 7g + Head Rip Control keeps my wrist/elbow/shoulder from complaining too much. Stiffer sticks like the PD and Prince EXO3 Black don't work for me.

I've done quick demos of flexier racquets like the old Prince Ozone Tour and Pure Storms .... while I like the plush feeling, they are underpowered compared to my PK7. Would making up for this by swinging faster produce arm problems over the long run for some folks??? Or perhaps the EXO3 Tour is easier to swing fast and nullifies the issue?

I'd be interested in hearing from EXO3 Tour owners.
 

latershow

Rookie
In my opinion, Fischer Vacuum Pro 90 MS

Agreed, the only racquet that I have played with that I found completely neutral in terms of what you put in, you get out. I know I could play my whole life with this stick and never worry about tennis injuries. Interesting that some of you only recommend 2 piece stringing for this racq, as I had great success with 1 piece synthetic gut at 52 lbs.
 

SELFMADESOUL

New User
I've played with a few PT57As and they are definitely the top of arm friendly racquets although the strings really make a huge difference (if not possibly more than the racquet itself) IMO.
 

TCTEN

Rookie
After experiencing some elbow discomfort I switched from a Kpro tour strung with a poly/SG hybrid to MG Radical strung with Bab Xcel. It took a little time to adjust to the playing characteristics of the new set up but the arm discomfort is gone.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
After experiencing some elbow discomfort I switched from a Kpro tour strung with a poly/SG hybrid to MG Radical strung with Bab Xcel. It took a little time to adjust to the playing characteristics of the new set up but the arm discomfort is gone.

Did you try a multi in the KPro tour?
 
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dunlop1857

Guest
POG mid/ POG Oversize are probably the best out there... still to this day.:)
 
In the US site PK Black Ace has 57 RA and in the european site 63...which one is the right?

It is a little hard to believe but some website show different RA rate. For examplem, Prince EXO3 tour supposed to be most flexy racquet in the world with 52 RA per TW but someone showed different RA rate of same racquet from other website. It was rated 59 RA. So I can say comfortably that racquet RA is not all congruent.
 

mxmx

Hall of Fame
I have noted something interesting...

I have a Prince 03 black team...the most powerful racket i have owned personally...In the beginning this racket had terrible feel.
Once my technique adapted to this racket, it is as if the feel improved. I could use less effort with my strokes, looser on the wrist....less shock and so forth...I probably centred more (and added spin more regularly).
Because of the power of the racket, i would muscle the ball less, and it thus became more arm friendly. But that's technique...But i believe that power should be credited and when used correctly, it can result in comfort also...

Racket wise:
It may be worth looking into the Prince series...their grommet systems may provide less crisp feel, but may result in a larger sweetspot generally, and be softer on off center shots especially.

My advice:
the older you are, the lighter and more powerful the racket should be. As well as a larger sweetspot and headsize. If you are younger, and have very good footwork, i suggest smaller frames and something more orientated to the classic way wilson rackets are made. Smaller frames generally have more control due to their lower twistweight. But they are less forgiving on off centre shots due to their smaller sweetspots.

Personally:
Even though I love the 03 Speedport black team on serve especially, i don't think i will be getting the exo black racket due to lack of control on the groundstrokes. I will be sacrificing on the serve to what i believe will be more important to my game and thats control on the groundstrokes. My second serve is a weapon, and i believe the exo tour 100 racket will even enhance this....so technically its only my first serve that will probably need work. The exo tour 100 is the perfect balance for me specs wise...I have played briefly with the 03 tour (older model) and i could definately feel the flex and comfort and control. Did not test it on the serve though.
 
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mxmx

Hall of Fame
On another note: I believe one can overdampen your racket with dampeners that are too large or having more than one in your racket. It definately has a negative effect on feel, but not sure wether it can actually cause tennis elbow.
Smaller dampeners that just take away the sound, to me work best.

But if someone is complaining on pain when playing with a racket, the first thing i will look at, is their technique most probably...Most people tend to force and muscle their strokes, on the serve especially...and that is where many injuries occur. Whereas, using your legs, stomach muscles etc, and not just your arm, will limit injuries. Very rare that its the rackets' fault
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Surprised no one mentions the Dunlop Revelation series. Long discontinued, these are damped, flexible, great racquets.
 

sidzej

Rookie
My journey out of TE included the following racquets (in the sequence I used them):

1. Pro Kennex KI5
2. Fischer Magnetic Tour SL
3. Volkl PB10 mid

I am currently playing with PB10 mid and have no more TE problems, however as someone mentioned earlier on, look at the "entire package", including strings, technique, special TE exercises etc...
 

athiker

Hall of Fame
My journey out of TE included the following racquets (in the sequence I used them):

1. Pro Kennex KI5
2. Fischer Magnetic Tour SL
3. Volkl PB10 mid

I am currently playing with PB10 mid and have no more TE problems, however as someone mentioned earlier on, look at the "entire package", including strings, technique, special TE exercises etc...

Sorry to sidetrack thread but I'd be interested in your thoughts on the KI5 vs the Mag Tours vs the PB10 mid. I used a Ki5 when recovering from TE and now use the Mag Tour and C10 Pro. I have been tempted to try the PB10 mid but feel it is no doubt above my 3.5/4.0 level. I've actually been looking to go lighter than the C10 Pro and more powerful than the Mag Tours lately.

Just curious about your comparison thoughts though on the progression between the 3 racquets you have.
 

6-2/6-4/6-0

Semi-Pro
How about the Dunlop Max200g. Put some natural gut in there and you can hit balls 24/7 and not have arm problems (other than it falling off from the weight, maybe)...
 

6-2/6-4/6-0

Semi-Pro
I do (three of them with VS17 in fact). And I can hammer a lot of people with it. The bigger thing to worry about is hannah18 from the vintage forum coming over here and laying down the law - he uses them as well.
 

CDestroyer

Professional
Donnay Pro One International

Head Liquid Metal Radical OS

Super flexible, minimal power, spin and control. Hate flexible racquets.

I prefer a stiff racquet with super thin kevlar mains synthetic gut crosses at 55 pounds.

This setup for me in a word utopia.:smile:
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
I do (three of them with VS17 in fact). And I can hammer a lot of people with it. The bigger thing to worry about is hannah18 from the vintage forum coming over here and laying down the law - he uses them as well.

Still have a pr of medium weight, 13.4 oz, clubs that really smooth out your swing due to the weight. However my 15 oz M-fil 200 can end this debate.
 
I have noted something interesting...

I have a Prince 03 black team...the most powerful racket i have owned personally...In the beginning this racket had terrible feel.
Once my technique adapted to this racket, it is as if the feel improved. I could use less effort with my strokes, looser on the wrist....less shock and so forth...I probably centred more (and added spin more regularly).
Because of the power of the racket, i would muscle the ball less, and it thus became more arm friendly. But that's technique...But i believe that power should be credited and when used correctly, it can result in comfort also...

Racket wise:
....

My advice:
the older you are, the lighter and more powerful the racket should be. As well as a larger sweetspot and headsize. If you are younger, and have very good footwork, i suggest smaller frames and something more orientated to the classic way wilson rackets are made. Smaller frames generally have more control due to their lower twistweight. But they are less forgiving on off centre shots due to their smaller sweetspots.
....

This advice is interesting. I have debated it myself, versus the generalized advice on many websites saying
  • HH, light racquet = bad
  • HL, heavy racquet = good.
Maybe that statement needs to be qualified with other factors such as playing level and head size as well.
I don't know the right answer myself..
 
But if someone is complaining on pain when playing with a racket, the first thing i will look at, is their technique most probably...Most people tend to force and muscle their strokes, on the serve especially...and that is where many injuries occur. Whereas, using your legs, stomach muscles etc, and not just your arm, will limit injuries. Very rare that its the rackets' fault

Even if someone have correct technic they still develop TE or arm pain. It is possible to develope arm pain from wrong technic but I think it has to do with racquet, string, string tension, arm strength or possibly warmup (strech) condition.
 

TCTEN

Rookie
Did you try a multi in the KPro tour?

Yes I did try a few different strings in the Kpro without much success, after doing a bit of research online I discovered that the MG radical was frequently mentioned as a good alternative for folks suffering from TE. I was able to demo one at the club and liked it well enough to buy one. I've found that stringing it with a full bed of multi at the lower end of the tension range seems to seems to have done the trick for my elbow woes.
 

anubis

Hall of Fame
My head YK TG rad MP is very arm friendly, due to it's very low stiffness rating. I have serious arm issues and I've had absolutely no TE since making the switch.

I may even try out poly someday since the racquet is so soft.
 

coolblue123

Hall of Fame
Some folks has argued that with an RA of 46, that it can damage your shoulders, but my vote goes out to the Vantage BC line. I like the BC30.
 

sansaephanh

Professional
Dunlop ag4d200tour, rebel 95(2009), pd2012, most of the prince exo line and speedport lines. wilson 95's.

String makes a big difference too.
 

shell

Professional
This is similar to my experience where a stiff racket =pain and no play,a soft players stick=play with pain, and a Prokennex Ki 5x=play[a lot]and no pain.

I like this answer, as it fits with my experience - except I used the PK 5G rather than the Ki5.
 

tball

Semi-Pro
1) Donnay Pro One International
2) Dunlop MuscleWeave 200G
3) Volkl C10 Pro
4) Boris Becker London
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Fischer Pro No. 1
Donnay X-Blue 99
Donnay Dual Silver Lite 99 (weighted)
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Head Pro Tour 630
Volkl Tour 10 MP
Volkl Tour 8
 
Old thread, I know, but I've been thinking about this lately. Arm friendly for me means I don't have to string it with poly to reign in the power. My current list: Dunlop M-Fil 200, Dunlop 4D100, Prince NXG mid. All are playable with synthetic gut at reasonable tensions.
 
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Donnay X-Red+

I've never had arm problems, but occasionally my forearm would be tight or ache a little after playing. After switching to the X-Red+, any such feeling completely disappeared. Despite higher stiffness ratings, they are the softest feeling racket I have (including microgel radical, which feels harsh and stiff by comparison).
 

Ramon

Legend
Here are my reviews of the arm-friendly racquets I tried:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=413091

I thought the most comfortable was the Prince EXO3 Tour 100 followed by the Volkyl Organix 10 325.

I tried a very arm-friendly group of racquets, and even though the Pro Kennex Ki 5x felt the least comfortable, it was my pick because of the way it played. My game and my elbow are much better now.
 

gonzalocatalino

Hall of Fame
just played a full match with the Prince Ozone Tour yestarday.
I bought a batch of this here at the classifieds and they are strung with different syn gut and multis. This is probably the most arm friendly racquet i ever played with.
As i dont have arm problms, i´ll restrung them with my usual poly setup to get more control and a firmer feeling from the stringbed.
 

J_R_B

Hall of Fame
I switched to the Microgel Radical after I had TE, and I've been fine since then. I used to use a LiquidMetal 4.
 

tmc5005

Rookie
This is my list of top 10 arm-friendly racquets:

Babolat New Pure Storm LTD GT (95)
Dunlop Biomimetic 200 Tour (90)
Dunlop Biomimetic 200 (95)
HEAD-Youtek-IG-Prestige-MP
Prince EXO3 Rebel (95)
Prince EXO3 Tour (100) 16 x 18
Volkl Power Bridge 10 Mid (93)
Volkl Organix 10 325G
Wilson Prostaff Six.One BLX (95)
Yonex Vcore 95D

The list is based on Balance, Weight, Beam Profile, Flex/Stiffness, Head Size and Racquet Length. Does anyone have different suggestions?
 

KenC

Hall of Fame
tmc505, I played with the PSLGT for a few years and it is certainly an arm friendly racquet, but it is still not as arm friendly as the Pro Kennex Ki5 315. I got a tinge of TE last summer from playing way too much and got a couple of Ki5s and the difference was very noticeable. The TE is gone but I still use the Ki5 315 because it plays so well.
 
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