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Nick777

Semi-Pro
Ah sorry, but better then not having any options :)
Yes offcourse! I might get lucky and the grip 4 suits me well although i play with grip 3 with other brands. I bought the tc97 used and should take two weeks to deliver so who knows maybe 4 is ok
 

saleem

Semi-Pro
Yes offcourse! I might get lucky and the grip 4 suits me well although i play with grip 3 with other brands. I bought the tc97 used and should take two weeks to deliver so who knows maybe 4 is ok
I have added an overgrip underneath my replacement grip (I added 1/2 of overgrip because I play one hand backhand and I did not want to add 5 grams weight) after doing the replacement grip and adding my usual wilson overgrip it feels perfect.
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
I just got my Angell TC97 16x19(310g, 31.5cm balance) and put yonex poly tour pro 1,25 black 24kg mains 23kg crosses. (Played with pro staff cv at 25/24kg msv focus hex 1,23 -edge strig for 2 years). Feeling is totaly different. It is very soft on the arm, much more feel and control, you notice that the ball "stays on the srings" a bit longer. Everything is ok, i just have to get used to this feeling, my ball has less spin because i now use oval profile string so i tend to overhit a little when i strike the ball with full strenght. But when i want to place the ball in the corner with 80% of power used, it is much easyer. Biggest difference felt was on my double hander, i can feel the thinner beam when i am late on the ball or when i hit it near the beam of racquet. I will try it with my usual edge strings at my usual tension and then i will post again.. I did not want to string my focus hex because i read here that those type of strings can brake the grommets so i used oval string like yonex ptp.
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Do not worry, you can use your Focus HEX, I have tried it and grommets were okay.
 

gazz1

Semi-Pro
Tecnifibre HDX is a nice choice for multi
If you want a bit more spin, then have a think about a multi main and Ashaway Monogut ZX as a cross...it's super comfortable and slippery like a poly.
The TW stiffness rating is down around 100 whereas most multis are around 150.

Pre-stretch it though.
 
Feel at home with my TC95s. The head size for an open pattern seems right for me and the V3 feel i think has been upped a bit. Or maybe it is the combination of frame and BK I’m playing with. I think I got lucky as well and got them 320g/10HL which after stringing and an OG came to 21 Mgr/I all ready to go. The comparatively lower SW has not bothered me and the frame still has pretty good put away power but control seems a bit higher. Just ordered two more TC95s 16x19 to match what I have. I’ll keep my TC95 18x20 for now and experiment with them a bit but the 16x19 will be my main stick. I was a bit skeptical with the lower SW on the V3 in all honesty but it has not hurt the frames playability. Maneuverability seems better at stock specs and balance of power/control seems a smidge more control and that seems to work pretty good.
good to hear
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
I just got my Angell TC97 16x19(310g, 31.5cm balance) and put yonex poly tour pro 1,25 black 24kg mains 23kg crosses. (Played with pro staff cv at 25/24kg msv focus hex 1,23 -edge strig for 2 years). Feeling is totaly different. It is very soft on the arm, much more feel and control, you notice that the ball "stays on the srings" a bit longer. Everything is ok, i just have to get used to this feeling, my ball has less spin because i now use oval profile string so i tend to overhit a little when i strike the ball with full strenght. But when i want to place the ball in the corner with 80% of power used, it is much easyer. Biggest difference felt was on my double hander, i can feel the thinner beam when i am late on the ball or when i hit it near the beam of racquet. I will try it with my usual edge strings at my usual tension and then i will post again.. I did not want to string my focus hex because i read here that those type of strings can brake the grommets so i used oval string like yonex ptp.
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Do not worry, you can use your Focus HEX, I have tried it and grommets were okay.
I tried Focus Hex several times and every time they cut through the grommets. So you can try it but it is at your own risk.
 

Sintherius

Semi-Pro
I tried Focus Hex several times and every time they cut through the grommets. So you can try it but it is at your own risk.

How tight are you stringing it at?? I have Volkl Cyclone @48 in one and YPTSG in the other @45lbs, grommets are perfectly fine.
 

DelPeric

New User
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I see you are using focus hex 1,10, so because of the thinner string gauge probably it was easyer for it to get cut. I don't know. I'll try my 1,23 at 25/24kg and post results here.. maybe the coloured grommets are softer than the black ones :D LOL
 

DelPeric

New User
I just got my Angell TC97 16x19(310g, 31.5cm balance) and put yonex poly tour pro 1,25 black 24kg mains 23kg crosses. (Played with pro staff cv at 25/24kg msv focus hex 1,23 -edge strig for 2 years). Feeling is totaly different. It is very soft on the arm, much more feel and control, you notice that the ball "stays on the srings" a bit longer. Everything is ok, i just have to get used to this feeling, my ball has less spin because i now use oval profile string so i tend to overhit a little when i strike the ball with full strenght. But when i want to place the ball in the corner with 80% of power used, it is much easyer. Biggest difference felt was on my double hander, i can feel the thinner beam when i am late on the ball or when i hit it near the beam of racquet. I will try it with my usual edge strings at my usual tension and then i will post again.. I did not want to string my focus hex because i read here that those type of strings can brake the grommets so i used oval string like yonex ptp.
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i played with angell again. With every new day on the court i feel the difference between Angell tc97 and my Pro staff 97. Angell is lighter about 5 g but the swingweight is bigger. On the weight-scale Angell tc97 is 333-334g(strings and overgrip), and the pro staff shows 338-339 g. Pro staff looks like kids racquet comparing to angell in terms of how demanding racquet is. It is like "lie detector" - whenever i am late on the ball or i don't hit it clean the racquet punishes me, but when i'm on time and struck the ball nicely the ball goes perfectly. I was putting too much of my strength in shots(serves espec.) so after 2 hrs my upperhand(below my shoulder) got little "numbish"(i was playing an hour before on hard court with pro staff so maybe not the best to take this seriously)). Maybe it is too soon after 2 sessions to give opinions, especially because i swing the same way like with pro staff, different strings on it.. So we'll see after one month.. The racquet is faster during swings(serve, slice, volley), forehand is good, backhand not so much(i can feel the thinner beam). Power is good also. Cool, interesting but demanding racquet. I'll have to find my best solution regarding strings and maybe add a leather grip to make it more HL a little.. :D
 
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Nick777

Semi-Pro
i played with angell again. With every new day on the court i feel the difference between Angell tc97 and my Pro staff 97. Angell is lighter about 5 g but the swingweight is bigger. On the weight-scale Angell tc97 is 333-334g(strings and overgrip), and the pro staff shows 338-339 g. Pro staff looks like kids racquet comparing to angell in terms of how demanding racquet is. It is like "lie detector" - whenever i am late on the ball or i don't hit it clean the racquet punishes me, but when i'm on time and struck the ball nicely the ball goes perfectly. I was putting too much of my strength in shots(serves espec.) so after 2 hrs my upperhand(below my shoulder) got little "numbish". Maybe it is too soon after 2 sessions to give opinions, especially because i swing the same way like with pro staff, different strings on it.. So we'll see after one month.. The racquet is faster during swings(serve, slice, volley), forehand is good, backhand not so much(i can feel the thinner beam). Power is good also. Cool, interesting but demanding racquet. I'll have to find my best solution regarding strings and maybe add a leather grip to make it more HL a little.. :D
Out of curiosity whats your level of play?
 

DelPeric

New User
Out of curiosity whats your level of play?
4.5-5, but my ability to describe my experience with the racquet is not my best thing.. :) I only spoke about things that were a little different than i expected. I did not have much court time with it yet.. And those things that were said about stick before i did not mention here again.. Stick is great realy, fast, great feel and pocketing, slice is great, serve, dropshots.. but i played after the rain on clay, balls were a bit wet and i was forcing to hit harder than ordinary maybe that session.. Will give my full thougths after some time with it and after i try it with my usual strings and tension..
 
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Gee

Hall of Fame
I see you are using focus hex 1,10, so because of the thinner string gauge probably it was easyer for it to get cut. I don't know. I'll try my 1,23 at 25/24kg and post results here.. maybe the coloured grommets are softer than the black ones :D LOL
I also used black grommets so it doesn't depend on the colour. From now on I only have my Angells strung with rounded copolyester strings. I had no issues with WC Silverstring and RS Lyon. Last time I had my TC95 strung with Co Focus (hybrided with Head RIP Control) that is the rounded version of Focus Hex. Plays very similar as well.
 

ed70

Professional
4.5-5, but my ability to describe my experience with the racquet is not my best thing.. :) I only spoke about things that were a little different than i expected. I did not have much court time with it yet.. And those things that were said about stick before i did not mention here again.. Stick is great realy, fast, great feel and pocketing, slice is great, serve, dropshots.. but i played after the rain on clay, balls were a bit wet and i was forcing to hit harder than ordinary maybe that session.. Will give my full thougths after some time with it and after i try it with my usual strings and tension..

Pop some 1.22g scorpion in at 52lbs, will give you a bit of extra pop, with nice control and feel. Works for me, and I’ve tried lots of different strings over past 2 years
 

DelPeric

New User
I thoughts Angell is less demanding than pro staff and easier to play with
Dont get me wrong, the racquet is great, balance is little bit more HH than my previous racquets, the beam is thinner, i have much more feel than with my countervail pro staff(muted feel) that i played with last whole year. I am looking forward spending more hours with it on the court and than i will be able to describe the differences and thougts about it precisely. Here in croatia.. People usually play with retail sticks so i am the first one in my town owning angell(as far as i know).
 

MilanA

Rookie
I'm sure it's been asked before but I can't find it. When are the racquets measured unstrung? With grommets and basic grip on or without?

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topspn

Legend
I'm sure it's been asked before but I can't find it. When are the racquets measured unstrung? With grommets and basic grip on or without?

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The specs you pick for your racquet from the Angell site when you put your order in are a fully complete racquet unstrung with the grip you chose and grommets.
 

skeeter

Professional
Another extremely comfortable poly for the peeps looking for that due to arm issues. Tourna Black Zone is truly comfortable for a poly. I don’t know i have tried a poly with more comfort. Maybe big hitter black 7, scorpion and polyfibre TCS also top the comfort category
How would it be crossed with gut?
 

Sintherius

Semi-Pro
Round 2 coming up here on Sunday of playing with the Vantage 95s. I’ve been nursing a shoulder injury with what feels like an overworked tendon, so haven’t been able to play since my match last weekend. Not sure if I want to continue using the YPTSG strings or swap to the Cyclone strung frame to test/help with more ease of power.

Gotta say, I’m kind of obsessed with them. I swear I keep my bag unzipped ever so slightly just so I have an excuse to take them out and admire them whenever I pass by it in my apartment. It just feels incredible.. truly unlike any other frame I’ve ever used. Paint quality is top notch and I love the matte black.
 

topspn

Legend
Round 2 coming up here on Sunday of playing with the Vantage 95s. I’ve been nursing a shoulder injury with what feels like an overworked tendon, so haven’t been able to play since my match last weekend. Not sure if I want to continue using the YPTSG strings or swap to the Cyclone strung frame to test/help with more ease of power.

Gotta say, I’m kind of obsessed with them. I swear I keep my bag unzipped ever so slightly just so I have an excuse to take them out and admire them whenever I pass by it in my apartment. It just feels incredible.. truly unlike any other frame I’ve ever used. Paint quality is top notch and I love the matte black.
I am afraid it gets worse especially with winter. If you haven’t played in a couple of days, you’re gonna start hitting balls against your living room wall
 

redmini

Semi-Pro
I very rarely try a hybrid. I just meant if someone is looking for a poly whose main attribute is comfort, then these would fit. I’m sure even more comfortable with gut or syn gut cross.

Easily the most comfy poly I’ve tried was Volkl Cyclone Tour 1.19 - it played soft even in very cold temps last winter. Lasted well too. TWU rates it at 159 stiffness which is lower than many multifilaments. Same racquet currently has hyper g 1.18 and feels much stiffer even though tension has dropped to 8lb lower (according to RacquetTune). Hyper g lost much more tension from new. Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable is also pretty comfy though the Volkl has better feel.


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Nick777

Semi-Pro
Easily the most comfy poly I’ve tried was Volkl Cyclone Tour 1.19 - it played soft even in very cold temps last winter. Lasted well too. TWU rates it at 159 stiffness which is lower than many multifilaments. Same racquet currently has hyper g 1.18 and feels much stiffer even though tension has dropped to 8lb lower (according to RacquetTune). Hyper g lost much more tension from new. Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable is also pretty comfy though the Volkl has better feel.


Yea its really comfortable but in low tension its a rocket without descend control, ysed to play with the red 1.30 but soled my reel because didn't like the control much, now using yptp yellow 1.25 comfy and nice control at 48-50pounds. Dont compare poly with multi rates in stiffness because they are made from different material, cream is also a nice string very comfortable and better control than cyclone tour but i dont like the price
 

Sintherius

Semi-Pro
I am afraid it gets worse especially with winter. If you haven’t played in a couple of days, you’re gonna start hitting balls against your living room wall

Only if it’s a rainy/snowy day! Tennis court here at my apartment complex, basically how I tested the new frames I bought.. forcing my girlfriend to stand there and attempt to hit it back lol.
 

redmini

Semi-Pro

Didn’t have an issue with control with Cyclone Tour - quite the opposite. I used a different colour and gauge from you though - black 1.19 gauge in an 18x19 pattern. Tension was originally 50 and over time it dropped to 41 and stabilised there until it broke. My only negative was it had less snap back than I expected - as does UC - both rather less than hyper g for example. Still got good and very controllable spin though.


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Sintherius

Semi-Pro
Played doubles tonight, started off with my 95 strung with yellow Volkl Cyclone @48 lbs.
Absolutely hated it! It played much differently than the black color imo.

Buying sets of RS Lyon, Black Knight and Hyper-G to try out soon. YPTSG is an awesome string in the 95. I’ve played a full singles & doubles match with it... still plays incredible. Any other options I should seriously consider?
 

saleem

Semi-Pro
Played doubles tonight, started off with my 95 strung with yellow Volkl Cyclone @48 lbs.
Absolutely hated it! It played much differently than the black color imo.

Buying sets of RS Lyon, Black Knight and Hyper-G to try out soon. YPTSG is an awesome string in the 95. I’ve played a full singles & doubles match with it... still plays incredible. Any other options I should seriously consider?
I always string one of my 3 tc95 with weisscannon silverstring
 

Starred

Rookie
I am looking for a tc100, but don’t want too much power. Which option is better in that respect: 320g/10ptsHL or 310g/6ptsHL?
 

Nick777

Semi-Pro
I am looking for a tc100, but don’t want too much power. Which option is better in that respect: 320g/10ptsHL or 310g/6ptsHL?
The heavier racket the more punch on the Ball, what do you mean no much power? Whats your current stick and level of play? Try a lower power string and maybe high tension to abjust your game
 

Starred

Rookie
I currently have a tc95 (16x19) and a tc97 (20x18), both 330gr. I think both were 10ptsHL unstrung. Both rackets are strung with RPM blast @25kg. Really nice rackets, especially on serve, and they feel very comfortable. However, after a year or so I still tend to overhit my groundstrokes more often than I like. So either my technique is still not good enough or the rackets have to much power, or it’s a combination of both. I think the latter. I also have a K7 which plays nice as well, but I prefer (a little) more weight. Therefore I am looking for a racket that is still very comfortable, has a little more room for error (bigger sweetspot), yet is somewhat less powerfull. And I was thinking about the tc100, maybe at 310 or 320gr.
By the way: Ido not want to start playing with adding more weight at this moment, because first I want to get the basics right..
 

Nick777

Semi-Pro
I currently have a tc95 (16x19) and a tc97 (20x18), both 330gr. I think both were 10ptsHL unstrung. Both rackets are strung with RPM blast @25kg. Really nice rackets, especially on serve, and they feel very comfortable. However, after a year or so I still tend to overhit my groundstrokes more often than I like. So either my technique is still not good enough or the rackets have to much power, or it’s a combination of both. I think the latter. I also have a K7 which plays nice as well, but I prefer (a little) more weight. Therefore I am looking for a racket that is still very comfortable, has a little more room for error (bigger sweetspot), yet is somewhat less powerfull. And I was thinking about the tc100, maybe at 310 or 320gr.
By the way: Ido not want to start playing with adding more weight at this moment, because first I want to get the basics right..
Tc 100 is even more powerfull than the stick you are using, shouldnt had any problem overhitting especially with rpm at 25 kg which is a stiff string and Very high tension, i think is all about tecnique
 

Jouke

Professional
So
I currently have a tc95 (16x19) and a tc97 (20x18), both 330gr. I think both were 10ptsHL unstrung. Both rackets are strung with RPM blast @25kg. Really nice rackets, especially on serve, and they feel very comfortable. However, after a year or so I still tend to overhit my groundstrokes more often than I like. So either my technique is still not good enough or the rackets have to much power, or it’s a combination of both. I think the latter. I also have a K7 which plays nice as well, but I prefer (a little) more weight. Therefore I am looking for a racket that is still very comfortable, has a little more room for error (bigger sweetspot), yet is somewhat less powerfull. And I was thinking about the tc100, maybe at 310 or 320gr.
By the way: Ido not want to start playing with adding more weight at this moment, because first I want to get the basics right..
so many upsetting facts in one Post. RPM@25Kg. My arm already hurts when hearing this.

TC100 (Thors Hammer) reigns upon the balls. Has the most power out of all the rackets you named.

If you like the K7 start adding weight to that. It is a lovely racket. Match that to your specs
 

Starred

Rookie
Maybe you are right, but is a racket which is 330gr unstrung not much more difficult to control than a racket of lets say 310gr?
 

topspn

Legend
I currently have a tc95 (16x19) and a tc97 (20x18), both 330gr. I think both were 10ptsHL unstrung. Both rackets are strung with RPM blast @25kg. Really nice rackets, especially on serve, and they feel very comfortable. However, after a year or so I still tend to overhit my groundstrokes more often than I like. So either my technique is still not good enough or the rackets have to much power, or it’s a combination of both. I think the latter. I also have a K7 which plays nice as well, but I prefer (a little) more weight. Therefore I am looking for a racket that is still very comfortable, has a little more room for error (bigger sweetspot), yet is somewhat less powerfull. And I was thinking about the tc100, maybe at 310 or 320gr.
By the way: Ido not want to start playing with adding more weight at this moment, because first I want to get the basics right..
That is not the TC100. The TC100 is a TC95 with more forgives and more juice.
 

t_pac

Semi-Pro
If you want something lower powered with good comfort take a look at the Prince Phantom 100, but honestly if you find yourself hitting long a lot then it's likely to be a technique issue.
 

Starred

Rookie
If you want something lower powered with good comfort take a look at the Prince Phantom 100, but honestly if you find yourself hitting long a lot then it's likely to be a technique issue.

Well, it might be easy to conclude that it is just a matter of technique only.
But still I am wondering, why can I hit without holding back and keep the ball in with the K7, but often have to hold back with the much more (25gr) heavy tc95/97? Has this got absolutely nothing to do with power differences between rackets?

By the way, I am not looking for more comfort, as all the Angells thus far are very good in this respect
 

topspn

Legend
Well, it might be easy to conclude that it is just a matter of technique only.
But still I am wondering, why can I hit without holding back and keep the ball in with the K7, but often have to hold back with the much more (25gr) heavy tc95/97? Has this got absolutely nothing to do with power differences between rackets?

By the way, I am not looking for more comfort, as all the Angells thus far are very good in this respect
Yes, there is a difference between the two frames with hitting out. The K7 has a more tempered launch angle and does not hit the same big ball the TC 95 does. So it makes sense you feel that difference. Next time you’re out on the court just look at your take back a bit. If you’re racquet face is open on the take back, start shortening it a bit and keep the racquet face closed and parallel to the ground. Of course footwork, not hitting off your back foot, blah blah blah. Just experiment with a closed racquet face on your take back if you’re not doing it. It will give excellent control on big heavy shots.
 

saleem

Semi-Pro
I am looking for a tc100, but don’t want too much power. Which option is better in that respect: 320g/10ptsHL or 310g/6ptsHL?
sw will be similar between those 2, you should call/email/facebook Paul and ask him to pick you a lower swing weight racket with the balance you prefer.
 

t_pac

Semi-Pro
Well, it might be easy to conclude that it is just a matter of technique only.
But still I am wondering, why can I hit without holding back and keep the ball in with the K7, but often have to hold back with the much more (25gr) heavy tc95/97? Has this got absolutely nothing to do with power differences between rackets?

By the way, I am not looking for more comfort, as all the Angells thus far are very good in this respect

Sure, it’s easier to keep the ball in with a lower powered frame, and that is one way to reduce errors from hitting long - hence why I suggested the Phantom.

The downside is you’ll probably find it lacking on the serve.

The other option is to keep using more powerful sticks, but improve your technique to reduce the errors.

I know which option I’d go for [emoji846]
 

ugly duck

New User
i played with angell again. With every new day on the court i feel the difference between Angell tc97 and my Pro staff 97. Angell is lighter about 5 g but the swingweight is bigger. On the weight-scale Angell tc97 is 333-334g(strings and overgrip), and the pro staff shows 338-339 g. Pro staff looks like kids racquet comparing to angell in terms of how demanding racquet is. It is like "lie detector" - whenever i am late on the ball or i don't hit it clean the racquet punishes me, but when i'm on time and struck the ball nicely the ball goes perfectly. I was putting too much of my strength in shots(serves espec.) so after 2 hrs my upperhand(below my shoulder) got little "numbish"(i was playing an hour before on hard court with pro staff so maybe not the best to take this seriously)). Maybe it is too soon after 2 sessions to give opinions, especially because i swing the same way like with pro staff, different strings on it.. So we'll see after one month.. The racquet is faster during swings(serve, slice, volley), forehand is good, backhand not so much(i can feel the thinner beam). Power is good also. Cool, interesting but demanding racquet. I'll have to find my best solution regarding strings and maybe add a leather grip to make it more HL a little.. :D
For me the most important thing is to start warming up with the more demanding racket to get the timing right from the get go. Then I can change to the lighter one with no problem (ifI want to make a comparison...)
 
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