There are NO hard draws in this era

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
Simple. There can not be a hard draw in today's era. I won't necessarily say they are all easy (winning 7 matches and possibly playing one or two ATG), but none are hard.
Looking at Rafa's draw at first might have looked like the hardest draw for him (still not on par with old draws of past), but it did not come to fruition, whether by players not playing to their supposed level or whether they did not reach him.

I mean seriously, what would be the hardest draw?

Round 1: Zverev (top 10) -out 1st round
Round 2: Thiem (top 10) -out first round
Round 3: Tsitsipas (top 10) -out first round
Round 4: Fognini (top 10) -out 3rd round
QF: Nishikori (top 10) -still in it?
SF: Federer (top 10) -37 years old or Anderson (top 10) -out 3rd round
F: Rafa or Djoker (ATG) -both over 32

You can't dream of a hard draw.

ATP stands for Average Talented Players as they all are average tennis players with talent apart from big 3.


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lol, well done.

Can't imagine what brought this on.

But I will congratulate you heartily, and just remind folks:

If you don't thread, you are reactive. :)
 

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
lol, well done.

Can't imagine what brought this on.

But I will congratulate you heartily, and just remind folks:

If you don't thread, you are reactive.:)
Seriously though, you go back about 5+ years and there was always about 10 guys that if they went down before the 4th round it was considered a big deal. I used to check scores or watch matches and be like "OMG we have an upset alert in round 3."

This does not happen anymore. I wake up and see 3 top 10 lose round 1. Not a big deal.
 
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Seriously though, you go back about 5+ years and there was always about 10 guys that if they went down before the 4th round it was considered a big deal. I used to check scores or watch matches and be like "OMG we have an upset alert in round 3."

This does not happen anymore. I wake up and see 3 top 10 lose round 1. Not a big deal.
You're not wrong.

Draws kind of ceased to have meaning recently.

When it's mediocrity top to bottom (so soon!), they're gonna have to develop a new system.
 

George Turner

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There are no hard draws. The next gen arent consistent enough, the lost gen are what they are (who did Dimi lose to again?) And there's few dangerous floaters.

There's no depth in the field.
 
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Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
There are no hard draws. The next gen arent consistent enough, the lost gen are what they are (who did Dimi lose to again?) And there's few dangeroua floaters.

There's no depth in the field.
It's funny to think we used to laugh and joke about how the next-gen suck. Now it is such a reality that it really isn't funny anymore.
 
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