True Champions Use A One Handed Backhand

TennisBalkan

New User
There has been much proof that most of the world's major champions, current and former, are those used a one handed backhand. Some examples of these great champions that used a one handed backhand are Roger Federer, Pete Sampras, Stefan Edberg, Ivan lendl, and Boris Becker. And before the Open Era virtually all players used a one handed backhand. Does the usage of a one handed backhand give a player the advantage? Are players with a 1h-backhand superior to those with a 2h-backhand?
 
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bhallic24

Guest
There has been much proof that most of the world's major champions, current and former, are those used a one handed backhand. Some examples of these great champions that used a one handed backhand are Roger Federer, Pete Sampras, Stefan Edberg, Ivan lendl, and Boris Becker. And before the Open Era virtually all players used a one handed backhand. Does the usage of a one handed backhand give a player the advantage? Are players with a 1h-backhand superior to those with a 2h-backhand?

true that.
 

downdaline

Professional
Just my thoughts on this, but I think it's generally assumed that a player with a one-handed backhand has a better all-round game (eg. better slice, better backhand volley), and a very good all-round game is what you need if you want to remain a consistent contender in this sport.
 

wangs78

Legend
Just my thoughts on this, but I think it's generally assumed that a player with a one-handed backhand has a better all-round game (eg. better slice, better backhand volley), and a very good all-round game is what you need if you want to remain a consistent contender in this sport.

Yes, exactly. At the highest levels of the sport you need to have all the weapons. The 2HBH evolved really bc as the game moved towards more and more power, juniors coming up found it easier to have a 2HBH with power whereas a 1HBH would take longer to develop. So sorta like in Star Wars, the Dark Side is easier and faster, but ultimately, not stronger. =)

I think with Fed's success, a lot of juniors coming up will try to emulate him and more will try to master a 1HBH, so I'm very glad that the 1HBH is not dead! heheh
 
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bhallic24

Guest
Yes, exactly. At the highest levels of the sport you need to have all the weapons. The 2HBH evolved really bc as the game moved towards more and more power, juniors coming up found it easier to have a 2HBH with power whereas a 1HBH would take longer to develop. So sorta like in Star Wars, the Dark Side is easier and faster, but ultimately, not stronger. =)

I think with Fed's success, a lot of juniors coming up will try to emulate him and more will try to master a 1HBH, so I'm very glad that the 1HBH is not dead! heheh

I must add too that imo the 1hbh is the prettiest shot in all of tennis. You gotta win with style too fellas and ladies.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, exactly. At the highest levels of the sport you need to have all the weapons. The 2HBH evolved really bc as the game moved towards more and more power, juniors coming up found it easier to have a 2HBH with power whereas a 1HBH would take longer to develop. So sorta like in Star Wars, the Dark Side is easier and faster, but ultimately, not stronger. =)

I think with Fed's success, a lot of juniors coming up will try to emulate him and more will try to master a 1HBH, so I'm very glad that the 1HBH is not dead! heheh

It's really all about feel. I don't use the 2HBH because I just can't get the feel down. Plus the footwork for that really need to be way more precise than for the one handed. I prefer the one handed because I like the feel and there's a little margin for error if you get lazy on your footwork.
 

Recon

Semi-Pro
why would you post this? I'm a onehander & this is blasphemy. OneHanders have ruled tennis because that was what was taught at a young age to EVERYONE. OneHanded players reached its peak with sampras, after that its been the rise of the 2handers. It is now what is being taught. If the onehander and twohander were taught at the same time back then and onehanders consistently came out on top, I would agree true champions use it-- but no. It is a teaching issue, 2handed players lead to early success, this makes the crazy tennis parents feel like junior tennis actually has something to do with the tour level which has been proven to be not true at all. The juniors who get caught up with their success on the junior level have the hardest time breaking the thick line between the Mens level. Stop flooding the forums with the same hogwash I read every 3 days.
 

_maxi

Banned
There has been much proof that most of the world's major champions, current and former, are those used a one handed backhand. Some examples of these great champions that used a one handed backhand are Roger Federer, Pete Sampras, Stefan Edberg, Ivan lendl, and Boris Becker. And before the Open Era virtually all players used a one handed backhand. Does the usage of a one handed backhand give a player the advantage? Are players with a 1h-backhand superior to those with a 2h-backhand?
No, they are not. 2HBH is much more natural, in a righty it's like a left forehand with the help of the right atm. It makes you have no weak side. You backhand is almost as good as your forehand.

When you have 2HBH and you are attacked on your backhand side, you can still attack, and put pace on the shot, while if you are attacked and you have 1HBH, you are most likely to hit a slice that allows the opponent to finish the point in most cases at the net.

IMO 2HBH is superior to 1HBH. I have no reasons to believe that 1HBH is better. It just was more popular and more "elegant" back then, and as it was more used, more champions had it. But see Borg for example.. he was great and had 2HBH.
Now almost everyone plays with a 2HBH.

In other eras the shots were more passive, but now that power is increasing everytime, 2HBH is showing that it works better.
 
In the 30's "Viv" McGrath (International Tennis Hall of Fame Inductee) and John Bromwich (another Tennis Hall of Famer) both hit two-handed backhands and in an era when NOBODY was teaching it. Must've been something to it.

As for the pre-Sampras era, Connors, Evert and Borg ruled the 70's and in the 80's Gene Meyer reached a #4 ranking hitting two-handed off both sides as did Seles when she later terrorized the WTA for a spell leading up to Hamburg.

Finally, what has been considered by many to be the greatest single shot in the history of the game was a two-handed stroke belonging to Pancho Segura....though it was a 'forehand' it was a two-handed stroke nevertheless.

Yeah, I get the "style points" props if that's what was intended, but Connors?...Evert?...and Borg? TRUE (all-time) CHAMPIONS in anybody's book.

Next thing, you'll probably be claiming that no "true champions" used graphite racquets in the pre-open era. ;-)
 

TennisBalkan

New User
True, there were some great champions with a 2hbh, but there were even more with a 1hbh. Examples: those listed + John McEnroe and Rod Laver (2 calendar grand slams) In the end pros with a 1hbh achieved more than those with 2hbh.
 
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Justdoit10

Guest
Borg
Connors
Nadal
Agassi
Wilander

all champions. all with 2 handers.
 

texasdoc

Rookie
1hb is more versatile and generally leads to someone developing a more well rounded and skilled game. i think it is more natural to swing as well. but, very tough to get good at - requires excellent timing and footwork - most juniors just use 2hb and rarely make it to the top of the pros.
 

Blade0324

Hall of Fame
I am not a fan of the 1HBH at all. I think that the OP statements are just observations of coincidence.
IMO the 2HBH is superior in just about every way to the 1HBH. I also can't stand the look of the 1HBH. It looks to me like someone flailing about trying to fling a ball instead of hitting it.

Hopefully with racquet and string technology adding higher bounces and more spin to groundstrokes the 1HBH will continue to die out.
 

jmverdugo

Hall of Fame
Without thinking too much, Andy Murray has a nice all around game and his main bh is th, and it seems that he will be right up there with the champions.
 

KAndersonFan

Semi-Pro
There has been much proof that most of the world's major champions, current and former, are those used a one handed backhand. Some examples of these great champions that used a one handed backhand are Roger Federer, Pete Sampras, Stefan Edberg, Ivan lendl, and Boris Becker. And before the Open Era virtually all players used a one handed backhand. Does the usage of a one handed backhand give a player the advantage? Are players with a 1h-backhand superior to those with a 2h-backhand?

Bjorn Borg???

No, they are not. 2HBH is much more natural, in a righty it's like a left forehand with the help of the right atm. It makes you have no weak side. You backhand is almost as good as your forehand.

When you have 2HBH and you are attacked on your backhand side, you can still attack, and put pace on the shot, while if you are attacked and you have 1HBH, you are most likely to hit a slice that allows the opponent to finish the point in most cases at the net.

IMO 2HBH is superior to 1HBH. I have no reasons to believe that 1HBH is better. It just was more popular and more "elegant" back then, and as it was more used, more champions had it. But see Borg for example.. he was great and had 2HBH.
Now almost everyone plays with a 2HBH.

In other eras the shots were more passive, but now that power is increasing everytime, 2HBH is showing that it works better.

Compelling evidence :roll:

There are advantages and disadvantages to both. However, learning the one-hander is considered a much more difficult feat, so many opt for the two-hander.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
This thread will become obsolete very soon - right after the Fed-Murray match. I hope mods will help in changing the title to Two Handed Backhand.

Seriously, the two-hander is a far superior stroke for most people. Much easier to learn when younger. And much more stable. If I could start over, I would learn a 2 hander. Aggressive cross courts, the foundation of the modern baseline game, come naturally with the 2 hander. The 1 hander requires perfect timing and racquet face angle, and even then is often weak. The results are easy to see when Fed's timing is slightly off - the BH becomes a major liability, which snowballs into forehand mistakes.
 
I think great variety is very "aesthetically pleasing" and more importantly, very effective on the backhand side. Let's not forget that most players today that hit the two handed backhand primarily ALSO HIT A ONE HANDER in appropriate situations, such as when they want to hit a lot of slice, or hit a good approach shot, or feel stretched out wide. So, those players have great variety and the opponent doesn't know what's coming next.

This discussion of EITHER the 1 handed backhand OR the two handed backhand ignores a reality. It's NOT one or the other, in that it is often BOTH the one handed backhand and the two handed backhand that is most effective and required.

I for one, love to hit the two-handed backhand, especially when rallying during a long point when I am near the center of the court and want to drive shots deep, but then I mix in a lot of one-handed slice shots with a lot of spin that take my opponent wide left and right, and also forces him to often have to move forward very quickly. I constantly mix it up so the opponent can be caught surprised by a two handed backhand drive. I can do a whole lot more with my backhand than my forehand because of that increased variety, though I tend to be a little more offensive with my forehand.

Two-handed backhands can be exceedingly difficult to read and they can't be attacked very effectively with high bouncing topspin shots. When you can hit BOTH the 1 and 2 handed backhand, opponents have few options when trying to "attack" the backhand side. There are no weaknesses left to exploit.

Even someone like Federer has an attackable one handed backhand on clay, because he gets in trouble against players that can generate hard shots with a lot of topspin that constantly force him to hit it near shoulder height. Players with good two handed backhands can handle such shots much more easily.

One can have the ability to hit the one handed backhand volley really, so it's good to have this ability to hit BOTH. So, players like Murray and Wilander in the 80's mix it up wonderfully. Even players like Borg and now Nadal often mix in one handed backhands (especially Nadal when he seeks to hit several slice shots in a row).

Therefore, especially now, you have 2 big categories in terms of the backhand:

1. those that hit the one handed backhand exclusively and can't hit the two handed backhand.

2. those that primarily hit the two handed backhand, yet can also mix in plenty of one handed backhands also, which provides a huge amount of variety, with the inherent advantages of both types of backhands. Depending on the situation, such players adjust and decide whether to go with a one or two handed backhand.


See examples here of Wilander, Murray, and Nadal. This will likely will continue to be the dominant trend of the future in terms of the backhand:

1. Wilander: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efmy72bXH0c (thanks to TW poster Krosero)

2. Murray: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g9XC5nkjh0

3. Nadal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YILDVCr_WkQ

and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lprXfmylnOw

See a lot of great two handed and beautiful two handed backhands here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdlep5PkJ9Q

Even Borg, who was famous signature two-handed backhand would hit many one handed backhands, especially at Wimbledon for example.

If you hit only two handed backhands, do yourself a favor and add the one handed backhand. It's a lot of fun to hit, but don't rely on it all the time. Pick your spots accordingly and don't forget the hard hit 2 handed backhand that can be very difficult to read. You can changed directions with it at the last moment and your opponent will not know what's coming next, since you have a one-hander as well.
 
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JSummers

Rookie
For most people the 2HBH is better, easier to learn and more consistent to execute. But for the limited few truely gifted ones, who has the touch,coordination,balance,timing, etc, at the very echelon the 1HBH is superior.
 

jmverdugo

Hall of Fame
IMO a good BH regardless which one is really hard to have. Most people have THBH nowdays but that doesnt mean they are good BHs, in fact it is very common to see club players to do with a THBH the same thing they would do with a OHBH, push the ball back. Same thing at the Pro Level, if the THBH is so easy to master how come you see so lame THBH even at the pro level? A good BH, regardless which one, makes the difference between top 10s and top 20s. A good Topspin or flat THBH is as good as a good Topspin or flat OHBH and none of them are easy to get.
 
It's really all about feel. I don't use the 2HBH because I just can't get the feel down. Plus the footwork for that really need to be way more precise than for the one handed. I prefer the one handed because I like the feel and there's a little margin for error if you get lazy on your footwork.

uhh, do you by chance have the backhands mixed up? There is almost very limited to no margin of error for a one hander, a very small window of oppertunity. Not to mention footwork is even more crucial for one handers :-|. There's a reason why two handers are easier, you don't have to worry as much about proper footwork.
 

_maxi

Banned
For most people the 2HBH is better, easier to learn and more consistent to execute. But for the limited few truely gifted ones, who has the touch,coordination,balance,timing, etc, at the very echelon the 1HBH is superior.
I guess that is why Nadal play all the time to Federer backhand. Right?
 

edmondsm

Legend
Borg
Connors
Nadal
Agassi
Wilander

all champions. all with 2 handers.

Yes. The OP has a selective memory.

A successful backhand comes from letting a kid find whatever they are comfortable hitting. I hit a 1hbh because I am very right hand dominant. A more ambidextrous person would feel comfortable hitting with two hands. It has nothing to do with being a true champion.:-?
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
uhh, do you by chance have the backhands mixed up? There is almost very limited to no margin of error for a one hander, a very small window of oppertunity. Not to mention footwork is even more crucial for one handers :-|. There's a reason why two handers are easier, you don't have to worry as much about proper footwork.

He means the slice.

There is some confusion - whether we include the 1-handed slice and volley when discussing 2 hander vs 1 hander. I don't. Most 2 handers have 1 handed slices and volleys, and some (mostly women) have two handed volleys. We are talking about non-volley, non-slice strokes - the groundies of drives and topspin.
 

icazares

Semi-Pro
It's really all about feel. I don't use the 2HBH because I just can't get the feel down. Plus the footwork for that really need to be way more precise than for the one handed. I prefer the one handed because I like the feel and there's a little margin for error if you get lazy on your footwork.


Quite the opposite. The 1HBH requires more awareness of the footwork. If you forget that extra little step you're better off with the 2HBH. The 2HBH is absolutely going to force you to take the extra step, so it's better for lazy footwork players.
 

eagle

Hall of Fame
Borg
Connors
Nadal
Agassi
Wilander

all champions. all with 2 handers.

So I guess these guys are "FALSE" champions? :)

Don't get me wrong, I have a 1HBH. I however disagree that a single stroke by a slam winner makes one a TRUE champion.

What's next? A true champion is right handed since nature and history show there are more right handed players?

How about religion, ethnicity, color, nationality, etc? Come on....

r,
eagle
 

AM95

Hall of Fame
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TennisBalkan

New User
This thread will become obsolete very soon - right after the Fed-Murray match. I hope mods will help in changing the title to Two Handed Backhand.

Seriously, the two-hander is a far superior stroke for most people. Much easier to learn when younger. And much more stable. If I could start over, I would learn a 2 hander. Aggressive cross courts, the foundation of the modern baseline game, come naturally with the 2 hander. The 1 hander requires perfect timing and racquet face angle, and even then is often weak. The results are easy to see when Fed's timing is slightly off - the BH becomes a major liability, which snowballs into forehand mistakes.

The 1hbh may provide less power but when in a consistent state it offers much more variety. It allows you to hit a wider range of angles and disguise dropshots and slices. The 1hbh may also improve vollies as they,in most cases are struck with one hand. For this reason most serve and volley champions (Stefan Edberg, Boris Becker, John McEnroe) used a 1hbh.
 
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